Is a gas stove dangerous in a bedroom

Alan.c

Ok I jus got a 3kw gas stove I have a shed out the back with a sofa and bed in it can any one tell me is it safe to have a gas stove in this shed and if so how many vents are advisable an what size vents

Victor

Is it a shed or a bedroom?

Bedroom would likely be a no-no.

Sparkpea

If its bedroom then no I wouldnt, if its a shed that you're using the sofa to watch tv or something then maybe but you would need to make sure theres good ventilation. I personally would be scared of getting poisoned.

Capt'n Midnight

invest in a carbon monoxide alarm anyway unless you have something like a sealed boiler that has a separate ventilator

problem with carbon monoxide poisoning is that if you are awake you might notice yourself getting light headed or drowsy , but if you are already asleep you might never wake up.

so IIRC the regs say gas heaters in a bedroom are a complete no-no

yoshytoshy

Alan.c wrote: »

Ok I jus got a 3kw gas stove I have a shed out the back with a sofa and bed in it can any one tell me is it safe to have a gas stove in this shed and if so how many vents are advisable an what size vents

Are you sure it's a stove ? A stove needs a chimney to expel fumes.

If your using any gas appliance ,even a cooker you'll always need a certain amount of air (volume).
So basically the smaller the room ,the more air you need from outside.

LPG is lethal ,keep in mind that when it leaks it acts like water and covers your floor area first.

Alan.c

Its a shed with a bed and sofa in in I stay in out the back but it's 200 feet from the house and it would cost alot to put gas from the house or a solid fuel burning stove.. Is there any other way of heating the shed safely an cheaper then electric 2000 watt heaters
And were would I buy a carbon monoxide alarm and how muchare they

Alan.c

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Are you sure it's a stove ? A stove needs a chimney to expel fumes.

If your using any gas appliance ,even a cooker you'll always need a certain amount of air (volume).
So basically the smaller the room ,the more air you need from outside.

LPG is lethal ,keep in mind that when it leaks it acts like water and covers your floor area first.

It's a 3 kw flueless stove it's really just a gas heater that u put a bottle of gas in the back of

danjo

Sounds like a Superser heater. They do tend to dry the air and give off fumes. I thought they were long outmoded. Don't think I would like to spend any long periods in a room/shed with one.
IMHO I would think the ventilation required would negate most of the heat.

Joey the lips

Flueless gas stove..... My mind is getting the dredded feeling that all plumbers get about flueless gas fires....

I would not sit in this room without a carbon monoxide detector.

I would not sleep in this room at all...Regualtions not being taken into account.


Ways to keep warm

1 Blankets

2. Insulate the walls and ceiling.You will loose space but you will sleep better....

Alan.c

So whAt u recommend to heat the room safely and efficiently

Alan.c

Joey the lips wrote: »

Flueless gas stove..... My mind is getting the dredded feeling that all plumbers get about flueless gas fires....

I would not sit in this room without a carbon monoxide detector.

I would not sleep in this room at all...Regualtions not being taken into account.


Ways to keep warm

1 Blankets

2. Insulate the walls and ceiling.You will loose space but you will sleep better....

The walls floor and ceiling are insulated with king span but it still gets cold because there is no central heating and I do be out in work all day an come back to a cold room

yoshytoshy

Alan.c wrote: »

The walls floor and ceiling are insulated with king span but it still gets cold because there is no central heating and I do be out in work all day an come back to a cold room

King span is great stuff ,but you'll always get gaps with it. Personally I think fibre insulation is better for small areas.
You'll need ventilation if your in there for long periods ,otherwise you'll end up with pleurisy or something. Only recently I was working in a house that had a garage conversion into a bedroom and the furniture was all soggy from dampness ,laminate flooring was in bits aswell. Had to tell the people to get some vents installed.

If you're really concerned about it ,I would genuinely look at replacing the king span with rockwool or similar.

Alan.c

yoshytoshy wrote: »

King span is great stuff ,but you'll always get gaps with it. Personally I think fibre insulation is better for small areas.
You'll need ventilation if your in there for long periods ,otherwise you'll end up with pleurisy or something. Only recently I was working in a house that had a garage conversion into a bedroom and the furniture was all soggy from dampness ,laminate flooring was in bits aswell. Had to tell the people to get some vents installed.

If you're really concerned about it ,I would genuinely look at replacing the king span with rockwool or similar.

its only built a year and all the king span is plastered over i dont wanna spend a fortune theres no dampness just cold because i do be out of it for 12 hours a day 6 days a week
it jus cold because theres no central heating
what do you think about oil filled electric heaters

Alan.c

does any one know if it would be practical to get central heating from the house up to my shed
my shed is 150 feet from the back of the house

any heating suggestions would be great
thanks

yoshytoshy

Alan.c wrote: »

does any one know if it would be practical to get central heating from the house up to my shed
my shed is 150 feet from the back of the house

any heating suggestions would be great
thanks

Installing a radiator from the house is simple enough ,all the work is in digging the hole really.
You could do all the manual work and then get a plumber to hook into your system ,if your not alright at plumbing yourself.

Alan.c

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Installing a radiator from the house is simple enough ,all the work is in digging the hole really.
You could do all the manual work and then get a plumber to hook into your system ,if your not alright at plumbing yourself.

i would be worried about the length of the garden and the water not staying hot all the way to the shed

yoshytoshy

Alan.c wrote: »

i would be worried about the length of the garden and the water not staying hot all the way to the shed

To be honest I've never put a rad in any further than fourthy foot ,it's hard to imagine how far you're talking about.
If you got a good plumber to have a look at if for you ,he might come up with something. Theres stronger heating pumps available to compensate for distance and your existing system would need to be balanced to suit aswell.

Alan.c

yoshytoshy wrote: »

To be honest I've never put a rad in any further than fourthy foot ,it's hard to imagine how far you're talking about.
If you got a good plumber to have a look at if for you ,he might come up with something. Theres stronger heating pumps available to compensate for distance and your existing system would need to be balanced to suit aswell.

The garden is 150 feet from the closest radiator in the house to the shed is that to long
Or can it be done

yoshytoshy

It would be expensive to heat as you'd be heating a lot of pipework aswell.
Sorry for suggesting it to you ,I've only ever seen sheds 30 or 40 foot away.

Sparkpea

even run the pipes on show or behind a fencing etc. no need to dig them down really

Sparkpea

would work out cheaper in the long run then to get a wee system boiler to sit outside the shed and plumb 1 or 2 rads into it

roy rodgers

mobile space heaters under 5kw require 2500mm2 per kw of rated heat input. but they are not allowed in private garages, bedrooms or room without an openable window, bathroom, and shower rooms. So it looks like thats out of the question.

It looks like running two pipes down from the house and hooking up a few rads or go for a storage heater.

Victor

I would suggest a small domestic boiler, feeding a radiator(s). Rather than mains supply under ground, could the gas main be fitted to a soiled wall (not fence)? It would need to be painted bright yellow and protected from damage). Alternatively the gas could be bottled. There would be the issue of bringing a water main as far as the shed and/or having a water tank.

Sparkpea

if it was a system boiler tho u could top it up with a garden hose and its only a few times a year u might need to top it up so I wouldnt bother running a water main to keep cost down.

p.s. sounds like daryl who used to be in cornation street living in a shed out the back