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Clothing grants when pregnant - Mod note post 40

  • 28-10-2010 8:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭


    Hi all

    Was just wondering does anyone know how many clothing grants your entitled to when pregnant ??

    I got one already when i was 3 months and now im 6 months and bulging out of all my clothes....

    Am i entitled to another one ??? :confused::confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    are you serious ? you can get grants for clothing ? whats wrong with extra large sizes from P*nnys/D*nnes that most women I know make do with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    You have some cheek you know that!!!

    Yes i may be on social welfare but i have been looking for a job even though i am pregnant..
    I have been at interviews but didnt get the job because im showing and the interviewer obviously seen this.. and i still havent given up im still applying for jobs and have been working since im 13!!!

    You should think twice before you judge people :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭thesimpsons


    I wasn't particularly getting at you I'm just gobsmacked that there is even an entitlement to maternity clothes even as a once off never mind a possible second payment. To me it ranks up there with the Back to School allowance for 2 yr old - just total madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    Is that what all the Clothing Banks are for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    I cant see anything specific on welfare.ie, maybe it was an exceptional need grant?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    That post wasnt meant for you it was meant for the other post..( how rude )

    And yes you do get one or two payments for clothes if you are pregnant believe it or not..
    And yes penneys and dunnes would be all i can afford but living on social welfare and trying to pay my rent is HARD!! especially when your growing out of the clothes you have just bought a few weeks ago, and no i dont get rent allowance so i pay a good sum out of what i get to my landlord...

    Sorry if im coming across as psycho here but people not on social that look there nose down on people who are just sickens me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    Lynski

    I tried there website it doesnt tell you but thank you for taking the time to check i appreciate it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Jakob


    You go get your clothes. Haters gonna hate. They're just jealous that they're not pregnant and can't get free clothes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭anndub


    I was on social welfare until recently so I cant be accused of looking down my nose at anyone, however getting pregnant when you have no means to support a child is careless. There is no way i would have considered having a child when I was unemployed. I agree with the above, this is an example of everything worng with the country. There is no way anyone can justify finding themselves in your situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    Thanks Jakob :D

    At least there is some people on this that are not complete robots :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    Oh get a grip anndub will you seriously!!!!

    My pregnancy was not planned and yes i may be on social welfare but i dont intend to be for long, i am still going for interviews thank you very much and will defo go back to work when my baby arrives.

    Im not whats wrong with this country you are!! people like you make me sick:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    anndub wrote: »
    I was on social welfare until recently so I cant be accused of looking down my nose at anyone, however getting pregnant when you have no means to support a child is careless. There is no way i would have considered having a child when I was unemployed. I agree with the above, this is an example of everything worng with the country. There is no way anyone can justify finding themselves in your situation.
    Lucky you that you could wait and could have a choice, but dont judge others.
    What about someone who has been trying for years? someone who is getting on? you suggesting that if you are on sw you should also be on long-term contraception?
    That is crazy. You have to get on with your life and make your life happen for you and hope and hope that things improve. But the situation we are in right now the country not only needs more children for the future, people could be unemployed a long long time before things improve, should they also forgo their happiness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    lynski wrote: »
    Lucky you that you could wait and could have a choice, but dont judge others.
    What about someone who has been trying for years? someone who is getting on? you suggesting that if you are on sw you should also be on long-term contraception?
    That is crazy. You have to get on with your life and make your life happen for you and hope and hope that things improve. But the situation we are in right now the country not only needs more children for the future, people could be unemployed a long long time before things improve, should they also forgo their happiness?

    Exactly!! She basically just said that people on social welfare shouldnt have children because we cant support them!! thats RUBBISH!! ( also quite hurtful )
    Its bad enough having a baby on the way and worrying about money than having to look at comments like that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    The last thing the country needs at the moment is more children with no means to support them bar hand outs from the government. If you don't have the means to support a child then you shouldn't be bringing one into the world, end of story.

    I think you may have slightly misunderstood the tone of Jakob's comment above by the way...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's not a pregnancy clothing grant, it's a clothing grant it can be given to people who look really poor, obese, pregnant etc. Your best go down to you social welfare officer and ask them for it and look pretty bad when you do, leave the lulu bag at home. ;)
    They can give you money for other stuff as well, I know people who've got new furniture, fridges, cars servies etc.

    It's a pointless argument going on here, neither will see the other sides argument, I think the SW system is wrong but not when it comes to mammy's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    rickyjb wrote: »
    The last thing the country needs at the moment is more children with no means to support them bar hand outs from the government. If you don't have the means to support a child then you shouldn't be bringing one into the world, end of story.

    I think you may have slightly misunderstood the tone of Jakob's comment above by the way...:rolleyes:

    How can you say not to bring a baby into the world, sometimes it just happens it is not planned!! and fyi i will not be getting hands out from the goverment i will go back to work after baby is born:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    I am now unemployed :(
    Contract expired in April am due in December so I was pregnant before I was laid off
    I am buying size 16 clothes in Dunnes & Penneys (i'm normally size 12-14) :( though i got a nice maxi dress on sale in A-wear today for €8 :D

    I didn't know there was a clothing allowance for pregnancy
    I can't claim rent allowance cos we have a mortgage and can't get mortgage relief cos the hubby works so we've lost €30k worth of salary and are struggling to get by
    I'd be mortified asking DSCFA for clothes for pregnancy to be honest

    I'll survive on Penneys cheapest for the next 7/8 weeks

    Roll on Christmas and my own jeans again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    angelfire9 wrote: »
    I am now unemployed :(
    Contract expired in April am due in December so I was pregnant before I was laid off
    I am buying size 16 clothes in Dunnes & Penneys (i'm normally size 12-14) :( though i got a nice maxi dress on sale in A-wear today for €8 :D

    I didn't know there was a clothing allowance for pregnancy
    I can't claim rent allowance cos we have a mortgage and can't get mortgage relief cos the hubby works so we've lost €30k worth of salary and are struggling to get by
    I'd be mortified asking DSCFA for clothes for pregnancy to be honest

    I'll survive on Penneys cheapest for the next 7/8 weeks

    Roll on Christmas and my own jeans again!

    You should tell your husband to quit his job too you'll be eligible for all sorts of payments....:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    rickyjb wrote: »
    The last thing the country needs at the moment is more children with no means to support them bar hand outs from the government. If you don't have the means to support a child then you shouldn't be bringing one into the world, end of story.

    I think you may have slightly misunderstood the tone of Jakob's comment above by the way...:rolleyes:

    You are actually wrong there. Falling birthrates in the 80s and 90s mean that we are going to need people in the workforce in 20 yrs time when the number of over 65s will increase and we will need the tax revenue to maintain the country
    http://www.ncpp.ie/inside.asp?catid=280&zoneId=2
    Anyway since when did economic status mean you could not have children? what is the salary level you think people should start at? and how much more should they be earning before they are allowed to have another? and how much more for no 3? Do both parents have to be working or is one salary enough? Maybe you should have to wait until you are at supervisory level? and be at management level for the third or fourth?
    Get a grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭anndub


    How can you say not to bring a baby into the world, sometimes it just happens it is not planned!! and fyi i will not be getting hands out from the goverment i will go back to work after baby is born:cool:

    Maybe you haven't heard but were in the midst of a recession that we'll probably still be recovering from when your child is old enough to look for employment...............so best of luck with the job hunting.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    anndub wrote: »
    Maybe you haven't heard but were in the midst of a recession that we'll probably still be recovering from when you're child is old enough to look for employment...............so best of luck with the job hunting.

    I have actually got quite a number of interviews :D
    Obviously didnt get the job because im showing but i dont care im still trying and will still continue to look when baby is born ( ill have no bump so better chance in one of them actually giving me a job lol )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Jakob


    With respect rickyjb, I don't think she did misunderstand the tone of my post, I was being genuine, although I can see that what I said could be seen as sarcastic or some other word I can't think of right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    BTW I am on my 3rd pg and I am currently unemployed. I have hardly bought myself anything in months, am lucky enough to be getting by with my pre-pg clothes, my old bump bands, a few charity shop finds and some hand-me-downs.
    I am not too fussy at this stage anyway because with 2 smallies I don't have the time to be fashion conscious.
    My mom has bought be a couple of tops as gifts and is promising me a dress for christmas, so i guess i will have to get by on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    anndub wrote: »
    Maybe you haven't heard but were in the midst of a recession that we'll probably still be recovering from when your child is old enough to look for employment.......... .....so best of luck with the job hunting.
    wow could you be nastier?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    lynski wrote: »
    BTW I am on my 3rd pg and I am currently unemployed. I have hardly bought myself anything in months, am lucky enough to be getting by with my pre-pg clothes, my old bump bands, a few charity shop finds and some hand-me-downs.
    I am not too fussy at this stage anyway because with 2 smallies I don't have the time to be fashion conscious.
    My mom has bought be a couple of tops as gifts and is promising me a dress for christmas, so i guess i will have to get by on that.

    If your pregnant and need clothes go get them off the social welfare lynski.

    They give you a €150.00 for clothes which in penneys goes a long way lol
    Go get what your entitled to :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    thanks but with oh working we are usually excluded from most grants etc.
    Cant actually remember when i last had 150e to spend on clothes for my... wow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭nick 56


    I don’t think it is fair or sane to blame this young lady or her unborn child for the countries state.

    Did she work in government, is her name macreavey, did she run a bank, did she borrow millions ?

    The people to blame are those who voted FF at the last election and for years and now haven’t the courage to drive them out.

    All we can do is snap and snarl at the weakest in our benighted society ---- what a bunch of cowards we have become


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    nick 56 wrote: »
    I don’t think it is fair or sane to blame this young lady or her unborn child for the countries state.

    Did she work in government, is her name macreavey, did she run a bank, did she borrow millions ?

    The people to blame are those who voted FF at the last election and for years and now haven’t the courage to drive them out.

    All we can do is snap and snarl at the weakest in our benighted society ---- what a bunch of cowards we have become

    Some people can be so hurtful...
    They say these things to make you feel your doing something wrong...

    I dont think you should check your bank balance before considering wether or not to bring a life into this world and seeing your comment somewhat makes me feel better knowing there are decent people out there even if there are very very few :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    I'm gobsmacked! I know the state is quite good to women and babies - free doctors' appointments for mother and baby from confirmation of pregnancy until baby is 6 weeks and free hospital stay for all, a very generous grant for equipment for some and the possibility of a free house and payments until the child is 16 for others, but free pregnancy clothing?!!!!:eek:

    I'm not getting at you OP, I had just never heard of this payment. I know everyone's situation is different but it's no wonder that some teenage girls regard it as a career option:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I am fairly sure you are talking ****e about clothing grants when pregnant in the same way people say refugees get cheques from the social to buy cars with, if it is true I hope this country sinks to the fiscal lows of Albania, is taken over by the IMF and is left as uninhabitable as the wastelands of Chernobyl for the remainder of my life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    deemark wrote: »
    I'm gobsmacked! I know the state is quite good to women and babies - free doctors' appointments for mother and baby from confirmation of pregnancy until baby is 6 weeks and free hospital stay for all, a very generous grant for equipment for some and the possibility of a free house and payments until the child is 16 for others, but free pregnancy clothing?!!!!:eek:

    I'm not getting at you OP, I had just never heard of this payment. I know everyone's situation is different but it's no wonder that some teenage girls regard it as a career option:rolleyes:

    Ha ha believe it or not yes you do get pregnancy clothing, its only a once off of 150.00 so dont be too gobsmacked lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    deemark wrote: »
    I'm gobsmacked! I know the state is quite good to women and babies - free doctors' appointments for mother and baby from confirmation of pregnancy until baby is 6 weeks and free hospital stay for all, a very generous grant for equipment for some and the possibility of a free house and payments until the child is 16 for others, but free pregnancy clothing?!!!!:eek:
    :

    Free doc apps = a specific no of apps only and only pg related - go in with the flu and u pay, i have always paid for the confirmation app btw and many docs are the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭kirstyor123


    I am fairly sure you are talking ****e about clothing grants when pregnant in the same way people say refugees get cheques from the social to buy cars with, if it is true I hope this country sinks to the fiscal lows of Albania, is taken over by the IMF and is left as uninhabitable as the wastelands of Chernobyl for the remainder of my life.

    Its not ****e you do get a clothing grant when pregnant, i did :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    lynski wrote: »
    Free doc apps = a specific no of apps only and only pg related - go in with the flu and u pay, i have always paid for the confirmation app btw and many docs are the same.

    It's more or less free; I haven't paid to see a doc in a year and that includes the confirmation appointment. Mind you, I've been lucky and neither babs or I have had any need of the GP other than routine checks. (crossing fingers)

    I nearly crashed my car a few months ago when I saw a 19 year old student of mine pushing an iCandy:eek: While I agree with supporting mothers, the system can be too generous and financially incentivise motherhood above completing education or getting a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    anndub wrote: »
    I was on social welfare until recently so I cant be accused of looking down my nose at anyone, however getting pregnant when you have no means to support a child is careless. There is no way i would have considered having a child when I was unemployed. I agree with the above, this is an example of everything worng with the country. There is no way anyone can justify finding themselves in your situation.

    Dear god woman, judgemental much??

    How one woman's pregnancy in less than ideal circumstances can represent all that is wrong with this country suggests that you understand very little about what is wrong with the country. Look up the ladder, not down and you might have more of a chance of spotting a scapegoat. Til then, lay off the holier than thou crapology, the girl is pregnant and enquiring about her welfare entitlements, not out murdering puppies or bankrolling corrupt developers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    deemark wrote: »
    I nearly crashed my car a few months ago when I saw a 19 year old student of mine pushing an iCandy:eek: While I agree with supporting mothers, the system can be too generous and financially incentivise motherhood above completing education or getting a job.

    Ever consider said student might have generous parents/family, or a boyfriend capable of supporting her?

    The financial incentives are very rarely a pull factor into motherhood, more likely it's a lack of education, disrupted childhood etc.

    And in any case, babies born to teenage mothers only make up 2.8% of all births in Ireland, with the average age of first-time mothers being 29. Hardly a career move for most then, and hardly going to bankrupt the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Ever consider said student might have generous parents/family, or a boyfriend capable of supporting her?

    The financial incentives are very rarely a pull factor into motherhood, more likely it's a lack of education, disrupted childhood etc.

    And in any case, babies born to teenage mothers only make up 2.8% of all births in Ireland, with the average age of first-time mothers being 29. Hardly a career move for most then, and hardly going to bankrupt the country.

    Absolutely not. I work in a DEIS school, where over 80% of students are medical card holders. The girl is not an Irish national, boyfriend and parents are all out of work and her younger sister is now pregnant too. The lack of education is a factor, but it's not just a cause, it's a consequence. I've lost track of the amount of students whose career plan is "going on the dole" and this is from when they come in in 1st year.

    I'm not saying it's a career plan for all or that every young mum is bankrupting the country and I know it's a small percentage, but there is a definite incentive there for young women. When they see the gear the young mother has, the status (although temporary) and eventually the new gaff, other young women see it as something to aspire to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely vile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    delancey42 wrote: »
    Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely vile.

    Strongly agree with this.

    Let me be very clear here people: The OP did not ask for, and is not interested in your social commentary. Anyone passing judgement from this point on will be banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    Hi all

    Was just wondering does anyone know how many clothing grants your entitled to when pregnant ??

    I got one already when i was 3 months and now im 6 months and bulging out of all my clothes....

    Am i entitled to another one ??? :confused::confused:
    To answer your original question I'd imagine that was a one off payment and I doubt they will give you another. These payments are most probably discretionary and are dependent on the social welfare employee you interact with at the time.

    My sister had to go to social welfare some years ago with two little kids in tow and she got absolutely nothing from them regardless of how much she begged and pleaded.

    I just bought myself one pair of jeans in h&m and about 3 ordinary h&m tops in larger sizes and I've resigned myself to wearing them to death until the end of Jan because I don't want to spend a lot of money on maternity clothes for the sake of 3 or 4 months.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    e-bay is really good for maternity clothes too.

    Out of curiosity -
    If you got a grant for maternity clothes already did you not spend it on maternity clothes why do you need more?


    When are you due?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    lynski wrote: »
    You are actually wrong there. Falling birthrates in the 80s and 90s mean that we are going to need people in the workforce in 20 yrs time when the number of over 65s will increase and we will need the tax revenue to maintain the country

    You can genuinely forsee a situation developing in this country where the problem is that we have too many jobs and not enough people to fill them? Have you seen the live register lately??

    I think you are the one who needs to get a grip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Civil posting is expected in this forum, this forum has an ethos of supporting posters.
    If you can not post in a manner which reflects this then don't bother posting
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    Some people can be so hurtful...
    They say these things to make you feel your doing something wrong...

    I dont think you should check your bank balance before considering wether or not to bring a life into this world and seeing your comment somewhat makes me feel better knowing there are decent people out there even if there are very very few :o


    Really? I would be of the opinion that it is very irresponsible to bring a life into this world if you are not sure that you can provide for that life. If you have a child you should be able to support it. That is not having a go at you personally OP or your question re: grant for clothes. It was a separate and slightly OT question I suppose.
    As with others I am flabbergasted that such a grant exists in the first place but would suggest going to the CIB to ask about a second payment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    On a more practical note though - have you tried the local StVdP shops and maybe check on places like http://www.freetradeireland.ie/

    You might even be able to pick up things like a buggy, cot etc...for free on that site - its well worth a look.

    When my sis in law was pregnant she got a large black elasticated belt type thing that went round the bump - to wear under clothes so that bump was always covered, it meant she could wear a lot of her non maternity clothes but be covered up - Im not sure what the name of it was.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    The payment like the buggy/cot payment comes under exceptional needs payments.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/birth-family-relationships/benefits-and-entitlements-relating-to-birth

    "Social assistance

    If you are a medical card holder you are entitled to a Maternity Cash Grant from the Health Service Executive on the birth of your child.

    If your income is insufficient to meet the costs associated with your baby you may be able to apply for an Exceptional Needs Payment from the Community Welfare Officer.

    If you are parenting alone you may be entitled to the One Parent Family Payment which is a means-tested payment from the Department of Social Protection. You can receive Maternity Benefit at a reduced rate, if you are getting One Parent Family Payment."

    Exceptional needs payments -
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/social-welfare/social-welfare-payments/supplementary-welfare-schemes/exceptional_needs_payments

    The maternity cash grant for medical card holders is f €10.16 on the birth of each child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Butterflylove



    When my sis in law was pregnant she got a large black elasticated belt type thing that went round the bump - to wear under clothes so that bump was always covered, it meant she could wear a lot of her non maternity clothes but be covered up - Im not sure what the name of it was.


    Ive seen these on the N*wlook website, fairly cheap for a set of three.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Squiggler


    €150 seems like plenty for the full 9 months to me.

    I haven't spent that much on Maternity clothes yet and I bought overbump work trousers (2 pairs) and jeans (2 pairs) as well as a couple of nice maternity tops that I can wear for work. A lot of my pre-pregnancy clothes are still fine (t-shirts and sweatshirts, tunic tops and even some of my dresses that had higher waistlines).

    My sister was also able to pass on some of her maternity clothes, so now I'm wondering if I bought too many pairs of trousers. Her pregnancies were during the Summer so I'll still need a few more tops for work.

    I work, so I don't have the time or energy to go to charity shops, but if I was unemployed they would have been my first port of call. They are goldmines and you could fill a wardrobe for €150.

    Too late to give you that advice now I guess, if the money has already been spent in Pennys, but it might still be worth your while talking to friends and family who've had children recently and seeing if they are willing to give or lend you some of their maternity clothes if they still have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭rickyjb


    Hi all

    Was just wondering does anyone know how many clothing grants your entitled to when pregnant ??

    I got one already when i was 3 months and now im 6 months and bulging out of all my clothes....

    Am i entitled to another one ??? :confused::confused:

    I'm no expert on maternity wear but I would have imagined the whole point was that you buy clothes that allow for expansion, hence you should be able to use them (the maternity wear) throughout the entire pregnancy?
    Maybe I'm wrong on this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Really? I would be of the opinion that it is very irresponsible to bring a life into this world if you are not sure that you can provide for that life. If you have a child you should be able to support it. That is not having a go at you personally OP or your question re: grant for clothes. It was a separate and slightly OT question I suppose.
    As with others I am flabbergasted that such a grant exists in the first place but would suggest going to the CIB to ask about a second payment.

    You were warned. Now you can take a break.

    THERE IS TO BE NO FURTHER, OFF TOPIC, SOCIAL COMMENTARY IN THIS THREAD.


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