Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

The Moon. A question.

  • 25-10-2010 4:37pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭


    I was lead to believe we only ever see the same side of the moon but late last night it seemed i was looking at a different side, the familiar pattern was totally different or something? can someone clear that up for me?
    thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    We see only one side of the moon, but we do see a bit more than half due to the "wobble".

    As time passes the wobble brings a bit more into view on one side or the other, and so the parts you may have seen at the central point will be offset at a later date.

    Also if the night was particularly clear you may have seen details you have previously not noticed. Alternately, if the night sky was a little cloudy, some features may have been invisiable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    That explains it 'cos it was parts off to the side on the lower right side looked different and you could almost make out topography. Thanks for that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    Incidentally, astronomers tend to examine the topography of the moon by watching where the shadow is and follow the phases of the moon. A full moon has little to see really as without the shadow you can not discern mountains and such properly through a normal telescope.

    If you were of a mind to draw a map of the moon showing the topography, you would view it once a night for a full lunar month drawing along the gradually moving shadow line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It's called Libration:

    Lunar_libration_with_phase_Oct_2007.gif


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    Don't forget that as the night moves on the moon will appear in a different orientation. At Moon rise, the Moons eastern limb will point up and its western limb will point down towards the horizon. By Moon set the eastern limb will point down towards the horizon while its western limb will point up. This difference in orientation can cause confusion as the moon will look different. It is turned by 180 degrees.

    Moon Rise
    moonrise011409a.jpg


    Moon Set
    xk9r6522.jpg


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Was wondering do other moons rotate at all ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Most moons in the solar system are tidally locked to their parent planet just like the Moon is to Earth. The exceptions are some of the small outer moons of the gas giants as they are mostly captured asteroids - but they too will become tidally locked over time. Interestingly Pluto and Charon are tidally locked to each other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭tvbrat


    As explained above
    I took this the photo the other night

    132477.jpg

    Ive posted more here on facebook


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    That phot of yours tvbrat clearly shows how shadows help us to observe the moon's contours.

    Nice picture too, what did you view it through if I may ask?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭tvbrat


    Rubecula wrote: »
    That phot of yours tvbrat clearly shows how shadows help us to observe the moon's contours.

    Nice picture too, what did you view it through if I may ask?

    Thanks Rubecula

    I used a 6 Meade inch reflector, with a 2 inch 15mm eyepiece.


    Specs
    Telescope
    Meade, OTA, N-6 AT Type Newtonian Aperture 6" (152mm) Focal Ratio f/5 Focal Length 762mm

    Eyepiece
    2 inch Moonfish 15mm Ultrawide 80°

    Mount
    EQ5 Heavy-Duty EQ Mount, with a Dual-Axis Motor Drive


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Probably a stupid question to most of you but i have recently taken a huge interest in the night sky.

    Why do we only see half the moon or 4/5 of it? i know its a cycle but what makes half of it light up and the other half be in darkness. i know its probably the most basic of questions but i just thought if someone could shed some light on it.

    p.s. sorry for the pun


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    bungler wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question to most of you but i have recently taken a huge interest in the night sky.

    Why do we only see half the moon or 4/5 of it? i know its a cycle but what makes half of it light up and the other half be in darkness. i know its probably the most basic of questions but i just thought if someone could shed some light on it.

    p.s. sorry for the pun
    Hi bungler, there are no stupid questions here. We all learn from each other or at least try to:)

    The Moon like the Earth is lit by the Sun. When we see only half the Moon lit it is because we are seeing part of the "day side" and part of the "night side" of the Moon. During a full Moon we see all the "day side" and during a new Moon we are looking at the "night side" of the Moon so we don't see it. This might help explain it.:)
    moonphasesdiagram.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Beeker, thank you very much. I think it's the first time on boards ive asked a basic question without everyone telling me to get real.

    That diagram has set me straight andhas given me an even bigger interest in the universe.

    Thanks very much for that


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    bungler wrote: »
    Beeker, thank you very much. I think it's the first time on boards ive asked a basic question without everyone telling me to get real.

    That diagram has set me straight andhas given me an even bigger interest in the universe.

    Thanks very much for that
    No problem, my friend, that is how we all learn and pass on our love for a subject.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭bungler


    Beeker wrote: »
    No problem, my friend, that is how we all learn and pass on our love for a subject.

    Cool, you will be seen a lot more of me as i wana learn a lot more about twinkle twinkle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    You've come to the right place Bungler. This tends to be a sensible forum, being about a science, so you will get lots of detailed and serious responses to your questions. If a little answer on how the moon phases work can increase your interest, then your interest will come on in even bigger jumps as you see more and ask more. Astronomy is a fascinating hobby. So keep coming back and ask more questions, but do spare some time to go outside and look up on those clear nights. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Flukey wrote: »
    You've come to the right place Bungler. This tends to be a sensible forum, being about a science, so you will get lots of detailed and serious responses to your questions. If a little answer on how the moon phases work can increase your interest, then your interest will come on in even bigger jumps as you see more and ask more. Astronomy is a fascinating hobby. So keep coming back and ask more questions, but do spare some time to go outside and look up on those clear nights. :)

    I've been posting here a couple of years,mainly because of interest in human spaceflight. But reading through all the other threads on Astronomy has given me a greater appreciation of what's above us and gotten me very interested in it. Not sure i'll be making the jump to a telescope anytime soon but the level of knowledge on here is amazing and has really given me a greater understanding of our position in the universe.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    lord lucan wrote: »
    I've been posting here a couple of years,mainly because of interest in human spaceflight. But reading through all the other threads on Astronomy has given me a greater appreciation of what's above us and gotten me very interested in it. Not sure i'll be making the jump to a telescope anytime soon but the level of knowledge on here is amazing and has really given me a greater understanding of our position in the universe.
    +1 to that, some great people here with a wealth of knowledge.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Same again last night. it looked slightly bigger than usual and you could see the countours and ridge lines with the naked eye. really cool thing to see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭tvbrat


    Hi
    A photo update on my previous post
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=68695785&postcount=9

    The camera angle is different on the scope this time, but you can see the changes between the 25th of Oct photo on my previous post and the ones below taken on the 27th of Oct.

    Hope you like them, I have posted more here
    http://www.bam.ie/bam_bright_arc_man/universe/moon/index.html

    133501.jpg


    133502.jpg


    133503.jpg


  • Advertisement
Advertisement