Bragging Rights Aftermath ***results etc inside***

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All bragging rights chat here please.

Review

Dolph Ziggler vs Danyel Bryan (Champion vs Champion Match):

One of the surprises of the night, and no doubt the best match. Ziggler and Bryan both put excellent performances, combining high flying, technical wrestling, and some work on the mat. A crowd that was seen silent at the beginning was left standing on their feets, with many "This is awesome" chants. Ironic, how a match that was barely hyped can become the best match of a PPV. Thank you, Dolph Ziggler. THANK YOU, BRYAN DANIELSON!

After that we had a backstage segment with Miz, Alex Riley, Sheamus, CM Punk and Santino. On the highlight of the segment, the great CM Punk told Miz that he was barely Captain Crunch, and you just gotta love how Miz kept his cool and put one of his funny faces.

Cody Rhodes and Drew Mcintyre came out to talk about themselves, and the RAW's GM ordered a title match against worthy oponents from RAW. Nexus music hit with good pop from the crowd, and Wade Barrett himself showed up to announce who the oponents would be: David Otunga, and somebody ordered by him to win the titles: John Cena.

Cody Rhodes and Drew Mcintyre (c) vs David Otunga and John Cena (Tag Team Championship Match):
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Honestly, after Barrett said what his orders were for Cena, it was crystal clear they were going to win. However, what I don't get is that having Justin Gabriel and Heat Slater on Nexus you put Otunga to get the title shot. That was the second surprise of the night, I thought we were headed to another failed attempt of the Hart Dynasty to win back the titles. The bell rang, and after a squashing of David Otunga by Rhodes and Mcintyre, Cena was tagged in: Superman on tha house! John won a handicap match, literally, as Otunga never wrestled again. Average match.

Backstage, Maryse is hottest than ever in a black dress, and DiBiase boasts about how he will win the Million Dollar Championship back against Goldust.

Ted DiBiase vs Goldust (c) (Million Dollar Championship Match)

Good old memories came suddenly as the "Shattered Dreams" appeared on the screen. Good old Goldust. Which one is hottest, Maryse or Aksana? I personally choose Maryse, she is sexier. Good match between Goldie and DiBiase, the guy looked really strong with many moves. Pity they don't have a better idea of how to use him. He's a good wrestler, but his father gimmick doesn't suit him. DiBiase wins with a new finisher? However, Aksana protects the belt and Goldust retains.

Natalya vs LayCool (c) (Divas Championship Match)

It was known, LayCool retains after McCool kicks Natalya when the referee was distracted and Layla gets the pin. A typical Divas match, and I was just wondering what it would feel like being Hannibal Lecter and watching Layla's thigs and body and her tanned skin. Silence of the lambs.

Undertaker vs Kane (c) w. Paul Bearer ( Buried Alive Match for the World Heavyweight Championship)

The match was a the whole concept of a brawl itself. Not much technical wrestling, as there was barely in-ring action. There was a mound of soil with a pit and a tombstone, and the public was behind the outcome. Taker threw Kane into the pit, but then.... Nexus came out and attacked him. Why? I'm sure many ask. We don't know. In the end, Taker was thrown inside and Buried Alive.

Team RAW vs Team Smackdown (Bragging Rights Match)

Santino eliminated by Tyler Reeks. Smackdown 7-6

Kofi Kingston eliminated by Sheamus. Even

Jack Swagger eliminated by John Morrison. RAW 6-5 (Great Starship Pain by Morrison)

Tyler Reeks eliminated by Sheamus. RAW 6-4

Sheamus and The Big Show were counted out. RAW 5-3

R-Truth eliminated by Edge. RAW 4-3

John Morrison elimated by Edge. Even

CM Punk eliminated Alberto del Rio. RAW 3-2

Rey Mysterio eliminated CM Punk. Even

Rey Mysterio eliminated Ezekiel Jackson. Smackdown 2-1 (REALLY? Mysterio slipped and landed awkwardly on Jackson's knee when performing the 619. I don't criticize that, Rey is a great performer and everybody slips at least once. BUT he ELIMINATING Jackson with a 619. C'mon, not even my little cousing, who thinks WWE is real believed that!)

Edge eliminated Miz. SMACKDOWN HAS BRAGGING RIGHTS!

And nobody cares. Good match, with nice individual performances.

Wade Barret w. John Cena vs Randy Orton (c) (WWE Championship)

Before the match, Wade told Cena that if he didn't win the match, Cena was fired tonight. Funny how the audience, almost 70% against Cena was chanting "Fire Cena". Not by far the great match it could have been. In the end, when Randy had Barrett ready to get an RKO, Cena got on the ring and gave Wade an Attitude Adjustment, disqualifying him. Yeah, Wade won... by DQ. Orton retains. Cena looked at Orton with cow eyes(thanks to whomever used the term in one of my articles) and Randy thought it better and nailed Cena with another RKO for being a smart bitch.

Overall, good show. Ziggler vs Bryan and the RAW vs Smackdown match were the best of the night. Tomorrow RAW on the fallout of tonight's events will be interesting to watch. Expect more humiliation of John Cena by Nexus. This angle is not over, the hype for Survivor Series here in my hometown Miami shows Wade Barrett dressed on a Nexus t-shirt saying that at Survivor Series: "You're Either Nexus Or You're Against Us".

Diabhal Beag

Didn't like a lot of it. Always annoys me when there's 20 minutes left on a PPV and Miz doesn't cash in.

Loughc

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Didn't like a lot of it. Always annoys me when there's 20 minutes left on a PPV and Miz doesn't cash in.

I said it before and I'll say it again after he didnt cash it in at Hell in a Cell, I bet Miz is going to wait until WrestleMania to cash in his MITB contract.

CMpunked

lockie1983 wrote: »

I said it before and I'll say it again after he didnt cash it in at Hell in a Cell, I bet Miz is going to wait until WrestleMania to cash in his MITB contract.

and lose.

mwahahahahaaa!!

Machismo Fan

Bad show. It started really well with an excellent opener and just collapsed from there. Womens match and tag title match were meh, Goldust/DiBiase was decent, the two World title matches were terrible with cheap finishes and the 7 on 7 match was decent but nothing special.

Loughc

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Bad show. It started really well with an excellent opener and just collapsed from there. Womens match and tag title match were meh, Goldust/DiBiase was decent, the two World title matches were terrible with cheap finishes and the 7 on 7 match was decent but nothing special.

Pretty much sums up how I felt about the PPV aswell. Its sad to say but the WWE is in serious trouble if it keeps producing poor PPV's like that.

GTR63

Another in the long line of poor ppv's this year.Rotten Title matches,poor elimination tag match & the rest was everything from good to the pits.I hear Vince is offering Lesnar a Hat of money to wrestle at Mania no wonder Vince hasn't created a new Main Event level talent for a long time.I can't believe that it costs $50 to buy wwe ppv's in America,when they see the buyrate for this Vince will have Kittens.

J. Marston

Thought it was a awful PPV. First match was very good but almost everything after that was boring, besides Goldust/Dibiase which was alright.
The crowd that showed up and payed for tickets to it should be annoyed, the endings for the WWE title and WHC matches were piss poor.

flahavaj

Warms the heart to see Danielson doing his stuff consistently well on PPV. They should just give him the 10-15 minute opener of every PPV for the rest of his career and he'd carve out a nice little niche for himself.

I'm starting to want a feud with Rey really badly before Rey gets too crippled to hang with him at all. Imagine the stuff two such incredibly clever workers could come up with. They'd both be mnore than capable of working around Rey's limitations at this stage.

Is the Nexus unterference in the Taker/Kane match the first seeds being set for heel Cena vs Taker at Mania?

Rjd2

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Bad show. It started really well with an excellent opener and just collapsed from there. Womens match and tag title match were meh, Goldust/DiBiase was decent, the two World title matches were terrible with cheap finishes and the 7 on 7 match was decent but nothing special.

Kane and Taker have wrestled 345 times in the last 37 years and yet they haven't produced a good match. The tragedy however of this we will still get another match between them which will blow at a big PPV next year. Thanks!

The Raw main event was a mess, anytime the commentators don't know the ending and have to guess it, you have failed. Wrestling and their fans are simple, if they wanted intricate plots, they wouldn't be watching rassling!

The match itself between Wade and RKO was heatless and their wasn't much chemistry either. Orton really isn't setting the world on fire as champ is he?
The elimination match had some fun moments but we had no reason to root for any team, something which was obvious by the crowd's indifference towards it apart from a few finishers here and there.

Ted and Goldust was ok, the rest was pretty dour sadly.

rossie1977

throwaway show, once again highlighting why randy orton will never be a top star, here was randys chance to really make an up and comer look great like top stars did for him when he was barretts position.

danielson was great, can you imagine how good he would be if they booked him as wwe champion and he headlined every ppv, my only one gripe with wwe danielson is the fact that he only uses ONE finishing move, lawler even alluded to cattle mutilation last night, they should push him as having multiple finishing moves that can beat you in many many ways

Loughc

flahavaj wrote: »

Is the Nexus unterference in the Taker/Kane match the first seeds being set for heel Cena vs Taker at Mania?

I thought that at first aswell, it would had worked better if they had Barrett order Cena to AA Taker into the grave and not have Cena play the super face even in the Main Event.

They only way I can see Cena turning heel now is him slowly getting sick of taking stick from all the Face-wrestlers and getting p'eed at Orton for giving him a RKO even tho he helped him retain his title.

steelcityblues

I read something on another site about Lawler mentioning to Striker that he didn't have many wins in his career - and that Striker responded with a verbal dig back by saying that at least he didn't have a territory where he could book himself to have so many wins!

Does anyone have a clearer transcript of this?

Rjd2

rossie1977 wrote: »

throwaway show, once again highlighting why randy orton will never be a top star, here was randys chance to really make an up and comer look great like top stars did for him when he was barretts position.

I agree and disagree with that. Orton had some good matches with Kofi and Ted from the midcard. However last night he did struggle with Wade who despite his excellence on the mic, is a bit green in the ring. It was a huge difference when compared to HAC where Cena carried Wade to one of the best WWE matches of the year.

SlickRic

flahavaj wrote: »

Is the Nexus unterference in the Taker/Kane match the first seeds being set for heel Cena vs Taker at Mania?

don't fúcking tease me!

awesome opener; and Danielson is showing the world now what he's all about. and, considering the showcking gimmick he's been saddled with, he's definitely getting over.

the whole show was meh - terrible apart from that, but i'll only comment on the main event.

fúcking disgrace.

Wade has been shown up as the limited worker he is, and this whole push has come far too soon, though the whole thing is obviously still the best story on Raw. his mic work is so far ahead of his in-ring work that it just doesn't look right. he's just not a main-event player.

and he looks like an absolute numpty after that match. every man and his 6-year old knew after his little speech that Cena would do that. ridiculously booked.

as i think was mentioned; the first time Cena nailed Barrett with anything should have been absolutely epic.

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Danielson was a star last night. And to be fair Dolph look a million quid as well. It was a great match which had an almost perfect dialogue. Clear face v heel and both pulled it off great.

I do not dig tanned Danielson tho. Dont suit him.

Other than that it was a muck show. I do think that Cena is turning heel at Survivor Series tho.

Pentecost

They're obviously planning something big with Nexus for Survivor Series judging by the ad with Barrett. Interesting that he was talking about the bigger picture again. Remains to be seen what they do to build it up.

JP Liz V1

Why the hell couldnt Slater and Gabriel team for the tag titles instead of Cena and Otunga

Insect Overlord

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why the hell couldnt Slater and Gabriel team for the tag titles instead of Cena and Otunga

Someone suggested in the live thread last night that they'll use the tag titles to keep Cena tied to the Nexus, even after what he did in the main event. Seems the most likely explanation.

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why the hell couldnt Slater and Gabriel team for the tag titles instead of Cena and Orangotunga

I have had too much beer today, but Liz, please tell me that is not a racist term you have just used there? It very much strikes as one.

I can only imagine the reason Cena was used is so they can use the Freebirds rule for the titles, and there was no guarantee that Gabriel or Slater with Otunga would beat the champs, given that they are rookies.

CMpunked

flahavaj wrote: »

Is the Nexus unterference in the Taker/Kane match the first seeds being set for heel Cena vs Taker at Mania?

:eek:

That is brilliant, sheer brilliant!

JP Liz V1

gimmick wrote: »

I have had too much beer today, but Liz, please tell me that is not a racist term you have just used there? It very much strikes as one.

I can only imagine the reason Cena was used is so they can use the Freebirds rule for the titles, and there was no guarantee that Gabriel or Slater with Otunga would beat the champs, given that they are rookies.

Apologies, just dont like the tool

Furious-Red

I actually enjoyed the ppv :eek: . I was kinda hoping that Cena would come out and FU Taker into the Grave (forced by Barrett) and would lead to Cena vs Taker at WM . Then of course Cena would have been turned heel and actually said it was his idea etc etc.

GTR63

Apparently Barrett was originally booked to win the title.Hard to know why it didn't happen but I imagine politics reared its ugly head.

CMpunked

GTR63 wrote: »

Apparently Barrett was originally booked to win the title.Hard to know why it didn't happen but I imagine politics reared its ugly head.

Maybe the way it happened meant that the angle could develop a little more?

Rjd2

SlickRic wrote: »

don't fúcking tease me!



Wade has been shown up as the limited worker he is, and this whole push has come far too soon, though the whole thing is obviously still the best story on Raw. his mic work is so far ahead of his in-ring work that it just doesn't look right. he's just not a main-event player.

That why Cena deserves so much credit for getting in what was a bloody cracking match out of him at HIAC. He has always been green though. He should be working lots of singles matches at House Shows but he has been in mulltiple and tag matches which don't really hone your talent as much. Gabriel and Slater are better workers but they don't have the personality and the stunning mic skills of Wade sadly.

Headshot

lads I wasted a few hours of live which ill never get back watching that bragging rights crap

How the **** it's still around is beyond me, pointless PPV

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why the hell couldnt Slater and Gabriel team for the tag titles instead of Cena and Otunga

Ahem. Good to see WWE Writers read these boards!

Cianan2

First PPV I've watched since Wrestlemania, and before then was quite a few years ago so I did not know quite a few of the guys on the bill. I have been interested in getting back into WWE though, so I decided to give this a try!

I thought the first match was brilliant, those 2 guys looked really talented! I quite liked Dolph Lundgren, he seems to make a really good heel. The other fella (who Michael Cole kept calling a nerd...Pot, Kettle, Black?) looked as though his kicks were legitimately hitting Dolph in the face, I was impressed!!

I had never heard Matt Striker doing commentary before, and I have to say he makes some very Mark-like comments - "That was shockmaster-like stuff" after the female tag-team looking duo we're talking about Minnesota and Brett Favre, and "Somewhere I can hear Joey screaming CATFIGHT" when Goldust and Di Biase's managers were going at it - speaking of Di Biase, I remember him looking about 20 years older then he did here around 20 years ago

Taker vs Kane was a very bland match in my opinion, I think by going into the crowd it spoiled the match somewhat, and ruined what could have been if they had stuck in/around the ring. Probably the least enjoyed match of the night for me!

The Raw v Smackdown match was really good, as much as I always hated anything more then 2 vs 2 in the past, they really played this out really well. I was dissapointed not to see more of Santino because he got good reactions from the crowd, and I thought he may have been able to contribute more. Edge was my favourite wrestler before I stopped watching, and it is good to see him doing well these days. Last time I saw a few minutes of him, he was a heel - I always liked him as a face (is there ever a chance of Edge and Christian getting back together??) Some of the guys in this match looked great, and I look forward to seeing more of them.... Sheamus really needs to change the name of his finishing moves, though, the generic "trying to be Irish sounding" kinda names really suck!

The Cena-Nexus story is a bit boring imo, although judging by the build up to the match (via a promo) they look to have put a lot of time into this one, unlike a lot of WWE things past... If they draw this out and allow the crowd a chance to really despise Nexus it could be a great move on their part! I always loved having a group to despise, its more fun hating on 4-5 people then just one guy - more opportunity to shout abuse when seeing a live show!!

Also the finish to their match was highly predictable as soon as the fella from Manchester, Wade spoke into the mic, saying "You're fired if I don't win"... I really like Orton, I think he has great charisma and really could play an absolutely huge part in the future (and possibly history) of WWE if it all doesn't go to his head too early, but I knew straight away that it was going to end in DQ, which is far too predictable for the top stars nowadays, even though I have not watched the shows properly in years! I must admit, though, I thought it was a nice touch with Cena throwing the Nexus group out of the ring and then claiming he was helping!

From the sounds of it, (Bear in mind I am a bit rusty when it comes to this sport!!) Cena is in dyer need of 1. A heel turn or 2. A character change. The crowd wanted him to be fired, and it seems like he has been the same Cena since those halloween Vanilla Ice skits back in (insert year here). He has gone stale judging by the crowds reactions to him tonight!

Anyway, sorry for writing so much, I guess I kinda thought that you guys might appreciate some info on what this was like from a now outsiders opinion... Overall, I would give this PPV a 6.5/10 (maybe 7) - had the potential to be so much better, if I am being honest. There is so much they can get into with a Smackdown vs Raw that was left untouched (from what I saw, although my thoughts don't include any previous PPV's)!

paddyismaddy

GTR63 wrote: »

Apparently Barrett was originally booked to win the title.Hard to know why it didn't happen but I imagine politics reared its ugly head.

it is too soon to put the title on him and the match was awful between him and orton