Angus stores bullocks (500kgs) finish or sell??

locky76 · 21-10-2010 9:07pm #1

how's it going.
i've five warm angus bullocks around the 500kg mark.
should i sell them on Monday in Kilmallock or should i try and finish them?
i've worked out they'd need 4 bales of silage and €120 of nuts to finish in late january.
any comments appreciated!!!

aristo · 21-10-2010 9:17pm

Mechanical grading isnt very favourable toward angus i found this year, thinking of changing to simmental because of it.

Pat the lad · 21-10-2010 9:56pm

I would sell. 500 kg now, so 90 to 100 days time they should be 620 kg approx?? If the kill out at 65% and then the grading is in the lap of the gods after that!! Plus consider 20 bales @ 20 euro ( 400 euro sale value) plus 120. Euro of meal each is another 600 euro. Costs don't be long adding up. I don't kill many cattle just some cull cows. So I could be wrong, but that's the way it looks to me.

Tipp Man · 22-10-2010 8:19am

We sold a bunch of 11 angus bullocks during the week, 505kg EUR 745 if thats any help to you

reilig · 22-10-2010 8:39am

Put an angus bullock into the factory last week. He was 520kg live weight and I got €840 for him. He was a stumpy leftover from last year that I couldn't sell as a weinling. he got at the creep with this year's weinlings and did quite well.

blue5000 · 22-10-2010 11:57am

Keep them and slaughter them yourself would be my opinion. You say they are warm, you should be able to get them on the hook before christmas. 60 days feeding and I reckon they'll be close to 600kg LW.

The proper thing to do is take them to the mart, put them through as singles, you'll get them weighed and valued. To get best value from angus you have to slaughter them, thats my experience anyway.

Dunedin · 22-10-2010 5:00pm

blue5000 wrote: »

The proper thing to do is take them to the mart, put them through as singles, you'll get them weighed and valued. To get best value from angus you have to slaughter them, thats my experience anyway.

not sure of the rationale for this. what's the point in gettign them weighed or 'valued' in a mart if you sending them to a factory...... very little comeback when there hanging!!

blue5000 · 22-10-2010 5:11pm

I agree with you, very little comeback in the factory, but if he is getting a good price in the mart he can sell them, if he's not happy with the mart price, finish them himself.

whelan1 · 23-10-2010 7:55am

are you in an angus scheme in factory

locky76 · 24-10-2010 7:20pm

whelan1 wrote: »

are you in an angus scheme in factory

i'm not i'm afraid, i've changed to a limousine bull this year.
i'm in the bord bia alright which is the equivalent pricewise i think.

dealerman · 25-10-2010 7:58pm

well did u sell them how did u get on

locky76 · 26-10-2010 11:54am

dealerman wrote: »

well did u sell them how did u get on

Bad, bloody Kilmallock, 479kgs, €650.
I had to wait until 5 to sell them and the main men buying AAs had gone home at that stage.
They fell between two dealers who eased off the reins at €620, they were eventually knocked down for €650, poorer cattle to mine were making the €200 with their weight.
The office staff had assured me they'd be sold around 3 during the week, I'll be finishing them in future.
I was like a briar above there, i have an awful aversion to the way the drovers treat the cattle, not a fan of marts!

Tipp Man · 26-10-2010 1:05pm

We sold 11 blacks in Dungarvan yesterday

6 @ 465kg made 690
5 @ 458kg made 670

The 6 were good cattle, the 5 had 1 butty fella in them

bouli73 · 26-10-2010 3:30pm

was at kilmallock mart yesterday and saw those cattle Locky. you are not wrong when you say worse cattle made €200 with their weight. Sold a few yesterday as well and was reasonably pleased but a lot of sellers there didnt get the value they deserved imo

snowman707 · 26-10-2010 8:08pm

Bank holidays in Kilmallock can be hit or miss. any one know what time the hereford sale will start on friday,?
will have a good few yearling heifers for service in the spring and thinking of a hr, the catalogue looks weak enough though

irishh_bob · 27-10-2010 8:40am

a couple of reasons why i would finish them

1. angus are discriminated against in the mart because of thier small size relative to continentals , this does not happen in the factory , in fact , angus command a premium

2. silage and maize are in abundance this winter , bales of silage wont be near 20 euro per bale , on the downside , concentrates are much dearer than last year but at least angus are quick to finish

Angus stores bullocks (500kgs) finish or sell??

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