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Right Wing Ireland

  • 21-10-2010 02:14PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭


    Why is there no right wing party in Ireland?
    FF and FG really operate in the middle ground where most of the voters are and most of the rest are lefties.
    Most European countries have strong right wing parties, its odd we dont here


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Why is there no right wing party in Ireland?
    FF and FG really operate in the middle ground where most of the voters are and most of the rest are lefties.
    Most European countries have strong right wing parties, its odd we dont here

    We're just focusing on the Civil War here. Don't go complicating things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,462 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    knird evol wrote: »
    We're just focusing on the Civil War here. Don't go complicating things.

    Don't forget where grandaddy was in the GPO.

    And grubbing as much as you can from the trough for your neighbours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    I would argue that our country is center right . We dont have any good left wing parties . Pds were right i suppose (to me anyway) and look what happened to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Maybe there policies don't appeal to people. Perhaps its time to go to the drawing boards, and come up with something new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    We've got Youth Defence.

    Our resident right wing anti-gay, anti-women nutjobs.

    They're great craic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    If we had two wings wouldn't we stop going around in circles?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    Conservatism is thankfully on its way out of Ireland especially with the downfall of the catholic church and for the far-right anti immigration style groups, they are not really socially accepted (although times may change). The right in political terms is thankfully a non entity. Now we have to get rid of these left wing nut jobs that want everything to be nationalised, the minimum wage to go up, €300 on the dole and sunshine lolly pops.

    Good straight down the middle centrist politics all the way :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Ive got some uniforms and some guns.Im currently working on a spiffing mustache but its taking me ages to design a good logo in photoshop because all the good ones are taken. When I get it done Im going to have a putcsh in coppers and see what kind of reaction I get.

    Most likely Ill just be forced to simulate sex acts with drunken culchies like that Kanagaroo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Gerry Asstrix


    The reason there is no right wing party or movement in Ireland, is that despite our mass stupidity in electing FF/FG for the last few centuries, the Irish people can now see the mess centre right politics has got us in and the last we need is further right politics in Ireland.

    There has never been any credible far right party or movement in Ireland bar the likes of youth defense and Justin Barrett running in the Euros, and they are normally stay on the fringes thank god.

    Usually far right politics attracts morons and lunatics such as this gobsh*te Michael Quinn, who is trying to start some sort of BNP style white nationalist movement in Ireland, thankfully it doesnt outside his own head and bedroom.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9HvFNkXWI&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnlaU9ofNdc&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Gh0_0LlXQ&feature=related


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Why is there no right wing party in Ireland?
    FF and FG really operate in the middle ground where most of the voters are and most of the rest are lefties.
    Most European countries have strong right wing parties, its odd we dont here


    I'm all for the establishment of an 'Irish National Front Party' or simple 'Irish National Party'.

    We should bring back the blue shirts too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    I'm all for the establishment of an 'Irish National Front Party' or simple 'Irish National Party'.

    We should bring back the blue shirts too.

    Blue dosnt match my eyes. Pick a cooler colour. The nazis had brown, the soviets had red and the partito nazionale had black.Something that screams "take me the fuck seriously" blue kinda screams "take me the fuck seriously if you want". Its all psychology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    I really wish we had a Libertarian party here (socially left, economically right).


  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    centrism ftw

    the further you are from the centre, the more I want to see you f*cked over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Des Carter


    No FF and FG are infact Right Wing its just that their so useless and stupid that they keep failing at it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Right - Left - Centre

    It's a bit simplistic isn't it. I think we should have a three dimensional pigeon hole system. Your political leanings are given an x,y,z co-ordinate. We could reduce everyone's economic and societal opinions to three numbers. You could probably develop a computer program to collate all these recorded numbers in the country and map out the policy and decisions for government and how to deal with each event. No need for elections or politicians


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    the Irish people can now see the mess centre right politics has got us in and the last we need is further right politics in Ireland.

    Using money taken from taxpayers' pockets to bail out failed private enterprises is a centre-right policy?:pac:
    Don't think so pal!!!!!
    OisinT wrote: »
    I really wish we had a Libertarian party here (socially left, economically right).

    Now we are on to something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Socialist joe higgins - Sinn feinn - Greens - Labour X- FF/FG - PD's

    x = cenetrist

    FF/FG are somewhat of different than the other parties, you have members of each that fall left of the center and right of centre, but because of their history are aligned with either fg of ff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭The After Hours Troll


    Forget right wing man, this leads onto bull**** posts about centre right, current right parties, etc and other ****e.

    What you mean is far right parties and why unlike Europe we have none. I raised this point last week.

    If there was ever a time they could do something in an election it would be now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,078 ✭✭✭conorhal


    knird evol wrote: »
    Right - Left - Centre

    It's a bit simplistic isn't it. I think we should have a three dimensional pigeon hole system. Your political leanings are given an x,y,z co-ordinate. We could reduce everyone's economic and societal opinions to three numbers. You could probably develop a computer program to collate all these recorded numbers in the country and map out the policy and decisions for government and how to deal with each event. No need for elections or politicians


    Hmmmm.... Your ideas intrigue me, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    conorhal wrote: »
    Hmmmm.... Your ideas intrigue me, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


    yeah, i think i should patent it before someone steals the idea


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Forget right wing man, this leads onto bull**** posts about centre right, current right parties, etc and other ****e.

    What you mean is far right parties and why unlike Europe we have none. I raised this point last week.

    If there was ever a time they could do something in an election it would be now.

    It would be nice to have some conviction politicians alright, rather than most of our lot who pander to the centre in order to win votes. I often wonder how many TD's of FF or FG actaully believe in their policies or whether they are just following them becasue they are looking for votes

    However in the Far Right parties of Europe is a strong racist and white supremacist element we could do without here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Sinn Fein and republican groups like Eirigi, depite being left wing, fill the grass-roots community based role that right wing groups in other countries build up from.

    In Leeds you have David Peters the BNP counciller telling constituents problems are due to immigration. In Dublin you have Ruairi O Connor from Eirigi telling consituents they're being exploited by the ruling class.

    These groups also attract the anti-establishment interest. Take say Eirigi occupying anglo-irish bank premises. No doubt some people joined Eirigi after that but previously had no interest in Irish republicanism.

    Same with EDL/BNP, they say f*ck the system and protest at things. People notice them for that and become right wing after joining.

    We also haven't had mass immigration until recently. Usually a link between that and emergence of right wing groups


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    Pauleta wrote: »
    Conservatism is thankfully on its way out of Ireland especially with the downfall of the catholic church and for the far-right anti immigration style groups, they are not really socially accepted (although times may change). The right in political terms is thankfully a non entity. Now we have to get rid of these left wing nut jobs that want everything to be nationalised, the minimum wage to go up, €300 on the dole and sunshine lolly pops.

    Good straight down the middle centrist politics all the way :D

    There's no such thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭cjt156


    OisinT wrote: »
    I really wish we had a Libertarian party here (socially left, economically right).

    This was the basis the PDs were started on. In a time when divorce, abortion and gay rights were still a political minefield. Whatever happened to them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,396 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    cjt156 wrote: »
    This was the basis the PDs were started on. In a time when divorce, abortion and gay rights were still a political minefield. Whatever happened to them?
    I was a PD member, but they dissolved the party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Why is there no right wing party in Ireland?
    FF and FG really operate in the middle ground where most of the voters are and most of the rest are lefties.
    Most European countries have strong right wing parties, its odd we dont here

    I don't know, I always thought of those parties as fairly right-wing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    However in the Far Right parties of Europe is a strong racist and white supremacist element we could do without here

    thats where the problems lie, with far right policies you get that, the whole idea of far-right means that you are superior and everyone not following or not in your group are inferior, same around the world be it the nazis, bnp, klu klux klan, far right politics means anything different to them be it race, colour or greed, sexual preference, religion etc etc is inferior


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Irish people are too Nice to be far right. We are the highest contributors per ca pita to charity, anti war, anti nuclear energy, human rights , all that crap.
    Irish aren't the type to feel superior to anyone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    OisinT wrote: »
    I was a PD member, but they dissolved the party.

    haha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    OisinT wrote: »
    I was a PD member, but they dissolved the party.

    Didnt they only have one member? Hi Michael!


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