Stack and Tilt

Sammo13

Thinking of trying out the Stack and Tilt method over the winter.

Not happy with my iron play this year, currently off 6, but my 5-3 irons should be alot better.

Read about the Stack and Tilt method and was wondering does anybody recommend it?

heavyballs

Sammo13 wrote: »

Thinking of trying out the Stack and Tilt method over the winter.

Not happy with my iron play this year, currently off 6, but my 5-3 irons should be alot better.

Read about the Stack and Tilt method and was wondering does anybody recommend it?

tried it,play to a similar level to yourself,it was a bit hit and miss and that was after a good while getting use to it
a lot of pro's who initially tried it have ditched it,fwiw it worked better for me with the driver that irons,developed a bit of a push with the irons that a never had before
so tbh in my experience it's worth trying but i'm not a fan,i'd be interested to see how it goes for you though

tang1

No personal knowledge on it, but from listening to the likes of Butch Harmon and Denis Pugh on Sky Sports, they would not recommend it. They say it ruined Aaron Baddeleys game and he was in the Top 20 in the world. As i said i'm not an expert, only passing on what i heard on it.

Sammo13

Cheers lads, I may try it over the next few months, I know it's not easy but if mastered it's a powerful swing.

Practice is the key to any swing or improvement.

BoardsMember

Sammo13 wrote: »

Practice is the key to any swing or improvement.

Give Aaron a call and let him know :D

BiffoGooner

Has it's plus points and negative's, like everything.

Experimented a little with it over the summer and this is what I found.

The main advantage to S&T is not having to worry about weight transfer. You go from weight forward, to weight further forward on the downswing, a relatively simple move. The drawback to this, I found at least, is you lose a little power that comes from that weight transfer. Some may disagree with that but I always found I lost a good 10 yards when I didn't transfer my weight back and then through.

On the other hand, getting your weight that far forward on the downswing almost guarentees a strike with your hands well ahead of the ball at impact, which as any decent golfer knows is vital to a good golf shot. If you can get it right you'll be hitting it crisply.

I also like how it almost completely takes an out to in swing out of play. During your backswing, you're taking your hands back 'deep'. i.e, your hands are moving around your thigh and behind you almost immediately in the takeaway, while at the same time you keep the clubhead 'out'. That might sound peculiar but if you google 'hands deep' you'll see what I mean. This move automatically gets the club in a position at the top where it's very hard to do anything but make a nice in to out swing. This was the most helpful thing I learned from S&T (instantly went from a consistant fade to a draw) and I kept it on. On the whole, the method's not for me but it definitely has it's merits.

Tiger's new coach, Sean Foley's teaching method is nearly all S&T, with a few parts left out here and there. If you watch video of Tiger's swing from the Ryder cup you'll notice a lot of the s&t moves, lessened weight transfer, hands deeper etc.

uptheroyals

tang1 wrote: »

No personal knowledge on it, but from listening to the likes of Butch Harmon and Denis Pugh on Sky Sports, they would not recommend it. They say it ruined Aaron Baddeleys game and he was in the Top 20 in the world. As i said i'm not an expert, only passing on what i heard on it.

it may have ruined aaron baddleys game because he's always been a very rotational player up to that, thats not to say it wont work for you. ive met andy plummer (the stack and tilt guy) and everything he says is bang on. but if your going to do it dont do it half heartadly or for a couple of months like the guys here seem to have done and gotten negative results. do it properly, immerse yourself in it, and find yourself a good coach who does it!! although im nearly posotive there is nobody even half decent at teaching this method over here!! might need a trip abroad. should be some info on their website about certified coaches you can check out

rafared

I'd recommend having a look at Mark Evershed's website. He's a canadian teacher who has been teaching a very similar style of swing to the stack and tilt. He travels over here occasionally to do the odd golf school as far as I know.

TheRiddler

BiffoGooner wrote: »

Has it's plus points and negative's, like everything.

Experimented a little with it over the summer and this is what I found.

The main advantage to S&T is not having to worry about weight transfer. You go from weight forward, to weight further forward on the downswing, a relatively simple move. The drawback to this, I found at least, is you lose a little power that comes from that weight transfer. Some may disagree with that but I always found I lost a good 10 yards when I didn't transfer my weight back and then through.

On the other hand, getting your weight that far forward on the downswing almost guarentees a strike with your hands well ahead of the ball at impact, which as any decent golfer knows is vital to a good golf shot. If you can get it right you'll be hitting it crisply.

I also like how it almost completely takes an out to in swing out of play. During your backswing, you're taking your hands back 'deep'. i.e, your hands are moving around your thigh and behind you almost immediately in the takeaway, while at the same time you keep the clubhead 'out'. That might sound peculiar but if you google 'hands deep' you'll see what I mean. This move automatically gets the club in a position at the top where it's very hard to do anything but make a nice in to out swing. This was the most helpful thing I learned from S&T (instantly went from a consistant fade to a draw) and I kept it on. On the whole, the method's not for me but it definitely has it's merits.

Tiger's new coach, Sean Foley's teaching method is nearly all S&T, with a few parts left out here and there. If you watch video of Tiger's swing from the Ryder cup you'll notice a lot of the s&t moves, lessened weight transfer, hands deeper etc.

I'm afraid to try that to be honest