Budget 2010 suggestions

mrsbouquet

I do not think that anybody irish or otherwise that are living here, and their spouses and children living outside this country should be in receipt of child benefit from this country. The government could save billions by closing this loophole. There is not another country in the EU that allows this.

mikemac

Budget 2011

Head The Wall

mrsbouquet wrote: »

I do not think that anybody irish or otherwise that are living here, and their spouses and children living outside this country should be in receipt of child benefit from this country. The government could save billions by closing this loophole. There is not another country in the EU that allows this.

It's an EU law and the complete spend on child benefit is circa 2Bn so cutting a little bit out of that wouldn't save us billions

LevelSpirit

Something I posted in another thread.....

The problem here is that nobody is prepared to take any cuts. Both public and private sector.
What we need is for everybody working no matter what the sector to pay more. How do we do that. Bring our taxes into line with the rest of Europe - since we want to compare apples with apples.

We get off so lightly tax wise when compared with the other countries in the eurozone. Look up the stats on that and then try to justify our low taxation.

The amount of us in this country who pay no tax or are on the low rate is obscene.

Quick example :
£20000 = £1,310 per month take home uk
€22880 = €1738 (£1520) per month take home Ireland

So for the same salary the Irish tax payer ends up with €2880 more a year in their pocket that the UK guy doesnt have.
So lets stop whining here and get real. We pay feck all tax. Trying to load the burden onto "the rich" or "the public sector worker" is just smoke and mirrors. There is plenty of room for us ALL to pay a hell of a lot more tax.

The country is broke because too many people are subsidized by those who pay a decent amount of tax. I have to laugh when I hear someone who only pays a couple of hundred euro tax a month complaining about where our tax is going, when they dont pay enough to support their own footprint even.

So stop crying about other peoples wages or jobs just to try and deflect the issues and suck it up yourself.

Also we get huge allowances.
- €400 Rent relief
- Mortgage interest relief
- No property taxes
- No rates

mrsbouquet

Well then obviously our child benefit rates are far too high otherwise why would all the non nationals opt to collect child benefit in this country instead of the country their wives and children are living in.

P. Breathnach

It didn't take long for

mrsbouquet wrote: »

anybody irish or otherwise

to be recast as

mrsbouquet wrote: »

all the non nationals

Head The Wall

Who's to say they aren't collecting it in both, they don't even enforce photo ID for collecting the dole here so I wouldn't be too sure that they check this either.

LevelSpirit

LevelSpirit wrote: »

The problem here is that nobody is prepared to take any cuts. Both public and private sector.

Most would be if it was fair, it just seems that the lower to the poorer people of this country get hit more and government are afraid to hit the rich.

LevelSpirit wrote: »

We get off so lightly tax wise when compared with the other countries in the eurozone. Look up the stats on that and then try to justify our low taxation.

The amount of us in this country who pay no tax or are on the low rate is obscene.

Quick example :
£20000 = £1,310 per month take home uk
€22880 = €1738 (£1520) per month take home Ireland

So for the same salary the Irish tax payer ends up with €2880 more a year in their pocket that the UK guy doesnt have.

That's not true, fair enough we may have more take home but everything here is dearer. Why do you think people are shopping up north.

LevelSpirit wrote: »

The country is broke because too many people are subsidized by those who pay a decent amount of tax.

That's not true at all, the country is in a state because of our current government, corrupt bankers, developers and greed. What about all the idiots that went and got mortgages way above what they could afford, you can't solely blame the banks for that, they didn't "hold a gun to their heads" and say Mr & Mrs X with your combined salary of 50k get this house at 400k and up and here while your at it add a bit more to it to get a new car. A lot of people went mad during the boom living well beyond there means, fueling the property bubble, driving up prices etc... and now they are the ones having to pay for this, the very ones that went stupid that are now moaning wanting their mortgages paid and debts wrote off and yet the lower class to the poorer people that never saw the "celtic tiger" also have to pay. So if anyone is subsidizing people now it's the lower to poorer class of society paying off the mountain of debt that all the above idiots got us into.

If anyone should be paying the price now it should be the bankers doing jail time for a start.

LevelSpirit wrote: »

Also we get huge allowances.
- €400 Rent relief
- Mortgage interest relief
- No property taxes
- No rates

We have huge rents and mortgage repayments, taxes and stealth taxes, higher service charges etc... When you factor all that in we are not as well off as you think.

mrsbouquet

mrsbouquet wrote: »

Well then obviously our child benefit rates are far too high

They should really start means testing it.

southsiderosie

I've spent the last few days reading through some of the Irish budgets from the last few years, and my main suggestion for the 2011 version is for them to stop bull****ting with their future revenue predictions. :mad:

astrofool

hellboy99 wrote: »

They should really start means testing it.

Even if the means testing costs as much as any savings? (which is why they haven't done this...)

astrofool

astrofool wrote: »

Even if the means testing costs as much as any savings? (which is why they haven't done this...)

That can't be right, then again it is Ireland :rolleyes: