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1K to blow on a build
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20-10-2010 8:28pm#1
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Hi, I'm not sure you saw my own thread. I also had a 1000 Euro budget and after some tinkering and tips came up with the following. It's just 1 Euro over budget when you factor in the delivey and includes a really great 24" monitor which my house mate just bought and it's an amazing piece of kit.0
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your a good man
Will i be able to fit quieter cooling on both gpu`s or will they be too close together for after market coolers to fit?
This rig will be in the sitting room and the Mrs will throw a wobbly if its making noise while her soaps are on
You might want to lose the AMDs then... noise is an issue with them from what I hear, especially the 6870. You could put aftermarket coolers on them, but compatible ones probably wont be around for a bit.Icyseanfitz wrote: »can you overclock on a stock cooler with an i7 930? sorry for hijacking
just didnt think it was good idea, still havnt saved up for my D-14
If you disabled hyperthreading you could possibly eek out a small overclock.
The i7s are hotter though than the i5s, I wouldn't recommend it.0 -
Icyseanfitz wrote: »can you overclock on a stock cooler with an i7 930? sorry for hijacking just didnt think it was good idea, still havnt saved up for my D-14
u can usually do a modest overclock. the key things are to keep your core voltage below 1.375 and your core temps below 72.7 and u should be ok.
u can monitor these with programs like "core temp" and cpu-z.
there are plenty of guides out there u can google. no need to turn off hyper treading just keep a close eye on you temps at full load0 -
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Using 2 6870s wouldn't be my number one choice. Those cards run pretty loud + hot and crossfire performance is so sporadic and lacklustre that it usually just disappoints you. You'd be better off buying a single card (i.e a more expensive single card), rather than using 2 in sli or crossfire. The newer drivers being released seem to have improved crossfire support but its still very much hit and miss. But you said you needed a quiet card for your system right?
For about 150 euro you can get a MSI gtx460 768 pre-overclocked card delivered to your door. At the moment they are the best price per performance cards i am aware of on the market. The MSI model uses an excellent cooler and its pretty much silent. The overclock is modest enough so you can tweak it a fair bit more if you want to. After spending 2 weeks researching for a new card after my beloved 8800 gts 640 died i picked one up myself and I'm very impressed with its noise and performance.
Of course, the thing with PC building is that there is always an upgrade for just a little bit more cash - for me i like to buy the best performance per price components and then overclock to extend their life - there are apps (like nvidias ntune) that will automatically OC your system for you if overclocking isn't something you've done before, but you cant beat doing it yourself really and there are loads of places to get advice.
Hope i haven't muddied the waters too much, best of luck with your new build
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runawaybishop wrote: »Using 2 6870s wouldn't be my number one choice. Those cards run pretty loud + hot and crossfire performance is so sporadic and lacklustre that it usually just disappoints you. You'd be better off buying a single card (i.e a more expensive single card), rather than using 2 in sli or crossfire. The newer drivers being released seem to have improved crossfire support but its still very much hit and miss. But you said you needed a quiet card for your system right?
For about 150 euro you can get a MSI gtx460 768 pre-overclocked card delivered to your door. At the moment they are the best price per performance cards i am aware of on the market. The MSI model uses an excellent cooler and its pretty much silent. The overclock is modest enough so you can tweak it a fair bit more if you want to. After spending 2 weeks researching for a new card after my beloved 8800 gts 640 died i picked one up myself and I'm very impressed with its noise and performance.
Of course, the thing with PC building is that there is always an upgrade for just a little bit more cash - for me i like to buy the best performance per price components and then overclock to extend their life - there are apps (like nvidias ntune) that will automatically OC your system for you if overclocking isn't something you've done before, but you cant beat doing it yourself really and there are loads of places to get advice.
Hope i haven't muddied the waters too much, best of luck with your new build
the cards are 6850s not 6870s. the 6850 is 2 weeks on the market so i think its unlikely u know how they sound . they are low power consumption cards with max load of only 229w and are designed to run hotter rather than louder. the performance is a shade better than the gtx 460 1gig. 2 of these in crossfire will give about double fps over a gtx460 768 so they will give amazing gaming performance for the price and probably the quietest of crossfire/sli configurations. see here for comparisons.... http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/ati-radeon-hd-6850-review/8 0 -
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Curry Addict wrote: »the cards are 6850s not 6870s. the 6850 is 2 weeks on the market so i think its unlikely u know how they sound . they are low power consumption cards with max load of only 229w and are designed to run hotter rather than louder. the performance is a shade better than the gtx 460 1gig. 2 of these in crossfire will give about double fps over a gtx460 768 so they will give amazing gaming performance for the price and probably the quietest of crossfire/sli configurations. see here for comparisons.... http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/ati-radeon-hd-6850-review/8
You're right, i was looking at the wrong model
Correct me if I'm wrong though but those 6850 cards run really hot. The review you linked shows them running at a pretty high temp, which means you are going to need to be careful that the cooling required isn't going to cause a lot extra noise. I may not have one in setup right now but i do have a 460 and they are whisper quiet. That card, despite being a lot lower specced compared to the 6850 seems to have more than acceptable minimum frame rates on the base model - the MSI i linked is pre-overclocked (and supposedly you can run them from 650(base) to 725(msi version) to 800mhz) so that is also something to consider. I'm not saying the 460 is a higher performing card as such, more that it might be butter suited to the ops requirements.
Has crossfire improved to the point now that you get an 80% performance increase? All the reviews i see seem to indicate that its very hit and miss and that your money is still best spent on a single higher rated card.0 -
runawaybishop wrote: »Using 2 6870s wouldn't be my number one choice. Those cards run pretty loud + hot and crossfire performance is so sporadic and lacklustre that it usually just disappoints you. You'd be better off buying a single card (i.e a more expensive single card), rather than using 2 in sli or crossfire. The newer drivers being released seem to have improved crossfire support but its still very much hit and miss. But you said you needed a quiet card for your system right?
For about 150 euro you can get a MSI gtx460 768 pre-overclocked card delivered to your door. At the moment they are the best price per performance cards i am aware of on the market. The MSI model uses an excellent cooler and its pretty much silent. The overclock is modest enough so you can tweak it a fair bit more if you want to. After spending 2 weeks researching for a new card after my beloved 8800 gts 640 died i picked one up myself and I'm very impressed with its noise and performance.
Of course, the thing with PC building is that there is always an upgrade for just a little bit more cash - for me i like to buy the best performance per price components and then overclock to extend their life - there are apps (like nvidias ntune) that will automatically OC your system for you if overclocking isn't something you've done before, but you cant beat doing it yourself really and there are loads of places to get advice.
Hope i haven't muddied the waters too much, best of luck with your new build
actually the crossfire performance in the 6850's and 6870's are amazing from what ive read even better than the 460's0 -
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I did (will at the end of the month/pay day) go for that mobo....
Im thinking I will stick with a single 6870 and see how I get on with it...
This is what I had in mind....
A good call I think, there is really no need for more that a one 6870 if you are running a single monitor setup. That is unless you consider your 1K budget to be a target rather than a limit 0 -
The 1k was more of a target for the build...A few hundy xtra wont break me..Just dont tell her that;)marco_polo wrote: »A good call I think, there is really no need for more that a one 6870 if you are running a single monitor setup. That is unless you consider your 1K budget to be a target rather than a limit
I was in touch with the lads at Scythe and they say that there new setsugen 2 vga cooler will be compatable with the 6870....Its just trying to find one is the problem. Will wait and see once its all together and running before I hand out anymore cabbage... The dampening in the case might just do the trick...time will tell..
I will be just running the single monitor(24") so as you say the 1x 6870 should be just fine....
Appreciate your help Marco and the rest of the lads...
Cheers
Dwighet0 -
The 1k was more of a target for the build...A few hundy xtra wont break me..Just dont tell her that;)
I was in touch with the lads at Scythe and they say that there new setsugen 2 vga cooler will be compatable with the 6870....Its just trying to find one is the problem. Will wait and see once its all together and running before I hand out anymore cabbage... The dampening in the case might just do the trick...time will tell..
I will be just running the single monitor(24") so as you say the 1x 6870 should be just fine....
Appreciate your help Marco and the rest of the lads...
Cheers
Dwighet
Came across the Rev 1 last week while researching coolers for myself, it is a class looking cooler very clever design, dual-slot too unlike other tri-slot monsters. I couldn't find anyone that stocks it though. 0 -
marco_polo wrote: »Came across the Rev 1 last week while researching coolers for myself, it is a class looking cooler very clever design, dual-slot too unlike other tri-slot monsters. I couldn't find anyone that stocks it though.
they look the biz alright....
Some temp differences to the stock coolers..0 -
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