Makes my blood boil

Voodoomelon

Here's something I detest and I see it nearly every single week and to this day i've never seen a man do it, its exclusively done by women and it makes me furious.

You can be stopped waiting to turn on to or off a road and along comes your one on the road (who has right of way) and she signals for you to come out. Oh, shes letting you out, whats wrong with that?

Shes friggin wavin her arm around like a lunatic indicating *come on, come on you bastard!* with a big scowl on her face!

Why they hell are you letting me out if you're gonna be such a grumpy git about it! Anyone ever see this? It drives me nuts, her pointing and waving her arm forwards and back 5 times a second, today this one was doing it while flashing her lights continuously at the same time for about 3-4 seconds!

Bloody hell! :mad:

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Guy:Incognito

Worse when they do it on roundabout. Bloody idiots.

The thing that bugs me is when the last or 2nd last car in a line slows and stops to let you out, or if your the last car and the car in front does it. It takes longer to slow the car then signal to let the person out than if you had maintained speed and they just pulled out behind you at their convenience.

Matt Simis

Its the pressure and tension of being stopped on the road conflicting with the impluse to be courteous. Ill leave the gender theory aspect to you, but I agree with you. When Im stopped on the road, I could care less (safety allowing) for the people behind me, they can wait an extra 5seconds.

Plug

Women + mini roundabouts = stupidity:mad:

Heres one I saw today, 3 women all travelling in different directions all stopped at a minor roundabout in Kilkenny(opposite mental hospital). Had not a fecking clue who's turn it was to go, about 7 seconds later I had to beep the horn and get them moving. Bloody shocking stuff and its only the minor roundabouts.




Look to your right ladys, if they are no cars coming just drive FFS! Its not that hard:rolleyes:

PsychoSue

Plug wrote: »

Women + mini roundabouts = stupidity:mad:

Heres one I saw today, 3 women all travelling in different directions all stopped at a minor roundabout in Kilkenny(opposite mental hospital). Had not a fecking clue who's turn it was to go, about 7 seconds later I had to beep the horn and get them moving. Bloody shocking stuff and its only the minor roundabouts.




Look to your right ladys, if they are no cars coming just drive FFS! Its not that hard:rolleyes:

Alot of people + mini roundabouts = Alot of IDIOTS

Ah I dont wana jump in and "defend" woman kind but mini roundabouts confuse alot of people from what Ive seen!!! Ive to drive through 1 twice a day everyday and the amount of EEEEEGITS (no one gender in particular) that HAVEN'T a notion of how it works!!

nogoodnamesleft

Yup, have to say one thing the really pisses me off is when people yield to traffic waiting to enter the roundabout while they are still on it! No its not been kind or mannerly its being f**king stupid.

Oh and the plonkers who queue in traffic obstructing the entry point to the roundabout thus making the traffic jam worse. Yes the yellow box is there for a reason.

Voodoomelon

Buts it the attitude of these people that annoys me so much. "I'm letting you out, now hurry the f up about it!".

ABajaninCork

Plug wrote: »

Women + mini roundabouts = stupidity:mad:

Heres one I saw today, 3 women all travelling in different directions all stopped at a minor roundabout in Kilkenny(opposite mental hospital). Had not a fecking clue who's turn it was to go, about 7 seconds later I had to beep the horn and get them moving. Bloody shocking stuff and its only the minor roundabouts.

Look to your right ladys, if they are no cars coming just drive FFS! Its not that hard:rolleyes:

OI!!!! I can cope perfectly well on roundabouts thank you!!

How about you guys indicating? Now, I am all things to most men, but mind reading ain't one of them! It really grinds my gears that people expect me to guess which way they're bloody well going!

If you know Cork, the roundabout on Rossa Ave always gets on my Bristols. I need to turn right. So I indicate right all the way round, only changing to left as I approach the exit. The amount of times people think it's OK to dart out in front of me as I'm coming round is ******* unreal! AND they've had the front to give ME the finger if I beep the horn

Oh - and don't even get me started on box junctions...

And breathe...

Guy:Incognito

Speaking of indicating on roundabouts. The ad on tv about how to use them seems to have turned people even stupider. I've noticed a major increase in people indicating right when going straight through a roundabout since the ad is on, most dont use a left indicator at all. It's as if they blank out most of the ad and just use the part that shows how to go right as the way to use a roundabout all the time, regardless of which exit your taking.

veetwin

Voodoomelon wrote: »

You can be stopped waiting to turn on to or off a road and along comes your one on the road (who has right of way) and she signals for you to come out. Oh, shes letting you out, whats wrong with that?]


Sorry but this never happens! :rolleyes:

Mr Benevolent

Stekelly wrote: »

Speaking of indicating on roundabouts. The ad on tv about how to use them seems to have turned people even stupider. I've noticed a major increase in people indicating right when going straight through a roundabout since the ad is on, most dont use a left indicator at all. It's as if they blank out most of the ad and just use the part that shows how to go right as the way to use a roundabout all the time, regardless of which exit your taking.

In the ad the driver doesn't indicate when going straight through the roundabout.

Plug

ABajaninCork wrote: »

OI!!!! I can cope perfectly well on roundabouts thank you!!

How about you guys indicating? Now, I am all things to most men, but mind reading ain't one of them! It really grinds my gears that people expect me to guess which way they're bloody well going!

If you know Cork, the roundabout on Rossa Ave always gets on my Bristols. I need to turn right. So I indicate right all the way round, only changing to left as I approach the exit. The amount of times people think it's OK to dart out in front of me as I'm coming round is ******* unreal! AND they've had the front to give ME the finger if I beep the horn

Oh - and don't even get me started on box junctions...

And breathe...

Im a guy and rarely indicate, well done:p

E39MSport

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Here's something I detest and I see it nearly every single week and to this day i've never seen a man do it, its exclusively done by women and it makes me furious.

You can be stopped waiting to turn on to or off a road and along comes your one on the road (who has right of way) and she signals for you to come out. Oh, shes letting you out, whats wrong with that?

Shes friggin wavin her arm around like a lunatic indicating *come on, come on you bastard!* with a big scowl on her face!

Why they hell are you letting me out if you're gonna be such a grumpy git about it! Anyone ever see this? It drives me nuts, her pointing and waving her arm forwards and back 5 times a second, today this one was doing it while flashing her lights continuously at the same time for about 3-4 seconds!

Bloody hell! :mad:

Smile and accept her offer. Perhaps he/she's having a particuarly bad day. What difference does it make? It's not personal - they don't know you.

Perhaps someone waved at her and made her blood boil too.

It appears that it doesn't take much to cause a chain reaction.

Guy:Incognito

Confab wrote: »

In the ad the driver doesn't indicate when going straight through the roundabout.

I know, that's my point. They seem to have taken the driver indicating to turn right as meaning they should indicate right regardless of where they are going and ignored the rest of it.

Anan1

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Buts it the attitude of these people that annoys me so much. "I'm letting you out, now hurry the f up about it!".

TBH, I share that attitude - if i'm letting you out then go smartly and go now. If the other driver looks like that might be a problem for them then I won't flash them in the first place. I find few things more irritating (and potentially dangerous) than that gormless, mouth-half-open give-me-five-seconds-to-process-this-new-information look as they inch forwards into my path.:)

Beruthiel

Oh look.
A 'lets slag women' thread.
Because, as we all know, ALL men are 100% perfect on the road.

Anan1

In fairness, I think it's more having a go at the behaviour than the gender. Not that i've noticed women to be any more guilty in this regard than men myself; I think the basic issues are daydreaming and a lack of ability to assess a situation quickly.

ottostreet

Women let people out now?

ABajaninCork

ottostreet wrote: »

Women let people out now?

I do. How about you?

Voodoomelon

Anan1 wrote: »

TBH, I share that attitude - if i'm letting you out then go smartly and go now. If the other driver looks like that might be a problem for them then I won't flash them in the first place. I find few things more irritating (and potentially dangerous) than that gormless, mouth-half-open give-me-five-seconds-to-process-this-new-information look as they inch forwards into my path.:)

Yes but i bet you don't flay your arms about waving like a mad thing when you're letting someone out, and either do I. I'm always as quick off the mark as possible when someone lets me out, its the least you can do for them having the courtesy to let you out.

The only reason I mentioned the female aspect of this is because it always seems to be them that do it, typically middle aged. They have zero ability to show courtesy on the roads, even when they're trying.

Beruthiel

Anan1 wrote: »

In fairness, I think it's more having a go at the behaviour than the gender.

Voodoomelon wrote: »

its exclusively done by women and it makes me furious.

Unless Voodoomelon is an omnipotent god, I'm not seeing how he can make the above comment with certainty.

cjt156

Voodoomelon wrote: »

to this day i've never seen a man do it, its exclusively done by women and it makes me furious.

Selective quoting makes, Voodoomellon The Omnipotent (c) cry.

Atomic Pineapple

Beruthiel wrote: »

Unless Voodoomelon is an omnipotent god, I'm not seeing how he can make the above comment with certainty.

I assume that in Voodoomelon's experience he has exclusively only experienced it from females.

Fair enough saying "its exclusively done by women" is not 100% correct but its posted by one person and I'd generally take the view that a post on boards contains only that persons opinion's garnered from their experiences and not to be taken as fact.

Had this been a thread about young male drivers then no complaint would have been made.

101sean

I'll let people out of junctions if it looks like they are making an effort and it's safe, if they are hanging around timidly way behind the line - no chance!

Always amuses me how most drivers here religiously drive right round the outside of painted mini roundabouts and never cut across (that's after sat staring at each other afraid to make the first move). Many of the roundabouts are very badly designed (I used to design them in the UK along with bus and cycle lanes ) and I cut the corner if it's quiet, there's one outside Tipp town that's so far off line I'll go the wrong side if I've a trailer on.

Beruthiel

draffodx wrote: »

I assume that in Voodoomelon's experience he has exclusively only experienced it from females.

Fair enough saying "its exclusively done by women" is not 100% correct but its posted by one person and I'd generally take the view that a post on boards contains only that persons opinion's garnered from their experiences and not to be taken as fact.

Had this been a thread about young male drivers then no complaint would have been made.

Dress it up whatever way you want draffodx.
This thread was posted up to slag women and it most certainly reads that way.

Eoin

Plug wrote: »

Women + mini roundabouts = stupidity:mad:
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Look to your right ladys, if they are no cars coming just drive FFS! Its not that hard:rolleyes:

Less of that please.

Everyone - can we please keep the generalisations to a minimum. It pisses off a lot of posters, and can make people feel quite unwelcome in this forum.

Gophur

Beruthiel wrote: »

Dress it up whatever way you want draffodx.
This thread was posted up to slag women and it most certainly reads that way.

It reads that way if it suits. The OP posted about an action, his "beef" is with the action, his "observation" is that it is performed, invariably, by women.

The sexist angle is incidental, but, hey, it gives you something to give out about.

Viper_JB

I've managed to get to the stage where I can justify not stopping except when I'm pretty much already stopped.....for enviromental reasons of course - as I see it...if you're driving at say 50ish and there's a number of cars behind you, to stop in this case you lose all you're inertial energy, meaning you'll have to burn more fuel to get back to that speed again, which would be fine if you were not making the same decision for everyone behind it can be a signifigent amount of fuel wasted for no good reason if you're cause a lot of cars to stop behind you. The other car is already at a stop so there's no real difference there. Also if there's nothing behind then it just doesn't make any sense if they can pull out after you pass, other wise again it comes down to you losing all your momentum and having to start again where as the other car is already stopped.

Atomic Pineapple

Beruthiel wrote: »

Dress it up whatever way you want draffodx.
This thread was posted up to slag women and it most certainly reads that way.

I disagree, certainly some of the replies contain sexism.

But the opening post isn't sexist and has nothing in it to give the impression that it was put up as a sexist thread to slag women drivers off.

The opening post gives out about a way of behaving, the fact that the poster has only witnessed this behaviour in females does not make it sexiest.

On topic:

If I am in slow moving traffic and decide to let someone out they have a few seconds to go if they dont take their chance I just keep on moving.

The worst is the people that slam on the brakes to let someone out!

Voodoomelon

Beruthiel wrote: »

Unless Voodoomelon is an omnipotent god, I'm not seeing how he can make the above comment with certainty.

Obviously i'm talking from my own experience, in which case I am 100% certain. This isn't a sexist thread, i'm merely stating i've never had a man shake his hand inpatiently at me to let me out, its always been women. Its the kind of thing you start to notice as it happens over and over again, and i'd be the first to post if men did it exclusively.

It has me as curious as furious, why does it happen? I'm 26, is it another of those "young fellas on the road" attitudes?

hobochris

ottostreet wrote: »

Women let people out now?

Was thinking the same thing.

I find it a humbling experience to be let out of a junction by a woman as it is such a rarity.

Atomic Pineapple

hobochris wrote: »

Was thinking the same thing.

I find it a humbling experience to be let out of a junction by a woman as it is such a rarity.

Seriously though?

I find I'm let out by women just as much as men.

_Kaiser_

draffodx wrote: »

The worst is the people that slam on the brakes to let someone out!

I had an idiot in front of me (it was even a man - for all the offended ladies reading this thread! ) jam on his brakes from 100 to 0 km/h just outside Dunboyne... so he could let someone out from a side road! :mad:

Then he gave me confused/offended looks in the mirror when I started leaning on the horn/flashing lights and cursing him! :rolleyes:

In general though (yes, generally) I find women will rarely let you in/out and almost NEVER "thank" you when you give them a gap.. it's especially worse in Meath/Cavan where a lot of the locals can't drive anyway!

I'd take Dublin city centre at rush hour any day over some of the antics I see on the N/M3!

GreeBo

Stekelly wrote: »

Speaking of indicating on roundabouts. The ad on tv about how to use them seems to have turned people even stupider. I've noticed a major increase in people indicating right when going straight through a roundabout since the ad is on, most dont use a left indicator at all. It's as if they blank out most of the ad and just use the part that shows how to go right as the way to use a roundabout all the time, regardless of which exit your taking.

Changing from 1st, 2nd or subsequent exist to left, straight or right was stupid.
Most roundabouts are not 4 way with 90* turns and straight roads on each exit, more often at least one of the exits/entrances will be a part of a bend, making it ambiguous which direction you are exiting in (compare to straight, right etc)

It was a stupid change, there is no confusion with numbered exits.

langdang

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

I had an idiot in front of me (it was even a man - for all the offended ladies reading this thread! ) jam on his brakes from 100 to 0 km/h just outside Dunboyne... so he could let someone out from a side road! :mad:

Then he gave me confused/offended looks in the mirror when I started leaning on the horn/flashing lights and cursing him! :rolleyes:

Ever seen anyone do it for a tractor? I have, the mind boggles. Don't know how that driver wasn't lynched, he had traffic backed for miles on Carr's hill (cork to ringaskiddy) as it was...

Ush1

Confab wrote: »

In the ad the driver doesn't indicate when going straight through the roundabout.

Think it does. It says indicate left when coming off but only after you have passed the first exit.

Ush1

One thing that annoys me is that yellow boxes are designed I think usually for people coming off a main road, not for coming out on to one.

So when you stop before the box and leave the space the person or persons wanting to turn left out on to the road give you a cheeky/confused stare and wave and drive out into it. Irks me a bit.

PsychoSue

Voodoomelon wrote: »

i've never seen a man do it, its exclusively done by women and it makes me furious.

Im a woman and I dont think the OP was trying to be sexist or start a lets have a go at women drivers thread as opposed to stating that they hate when people stop to let them out but act the bloody ass about it, flashing like mad, n using over axaggerated hand/arm movements...... AND that they have only ever seen women do it.

This doesn't mean its true on the grand scheme of things but it is true for the OP and this is BOARDS after all opinions are allowed n by god arent there alot.

Plug wrote: »

Women + mini roundabouts = stupidity:mad:

Heres one I saw today, 3 women all travelling in different directions all stopped at a minor roundabout in Kilkenny(opposite mental hospital). Had not a fecking clue who's turn it was to go, about 7 seconds later I had to beep the horn and get them moving. Bloody shocking stuff and its only the minor roundabouts.

Look to your right ladys, if they are no cars coming just drive FFS! Its not that hard:rolleyes:

This is where the sexism started but again its not like this for everyone, we all have varied experiences on the road. Just because in Plugs world only men can operate cars on mini roundabouts doesnt mean that they cant in my world and they SURE can.... but not all of them and not all MEN either!!!!

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Buts it the attitude of these people that annoys me so much. "I'm letting you out, now hurry the f up about it!".

Reiterating that its not women he has a prob with but The attitude of people who do this.... so the thread is essentially another lets bitch about OTHER DRIVERS thread

Fellow women PLEASE dont kill me but its my OPINION (just to cover my ass) that women do use their hands more then men and that our hand movements are much more exaggerated than any bloke that does use his hands to talk.....

OP from what u described with the lights flashing like mad n the hands etc shes an impatient wagon. n I TOTALLY see where ur coming from if ur gona make such a fuss n nearly have a coronary then dont bloody stop ur car.... Ill wait for the PATIENT person, sure Id feel safer with a patient driver behind me anyway..!!!

PsychoSue

Ush1 wrote: »

One thing that annoys me is that yellow boxes are designed I think usually for people coming off a main road, not for coming out on to one.

So when you stop before the box and leave the space the person or persons wanting to turn left out on to the road give you a cheeky/confused stare and wave and drive out into it. Irks me a bit.

If by driving into the box you can't clear it completely then you should stop before it.


Cars turning LEFT out of a side road can proceed into the box if the lane of traffic they are joining has come to a stop and and theyellow box is clear, the car should be positioned to join the lane of traffic in front in a bid to move out of the way of cars behind them.


Cars wishing to turn RIGHT out of a side road where there is a line of cars stopped and queueing on the main road should not enter the box unless they can see that it is safe to COMPLETE the manouvere and make it across into the opposite lane without STOPPING in the box. At no time should they proceed if in doing so they would block the traffic that had right of way

Ush1

PsychoSue wrote: »

Cars turning LEFT out of a side road can proceed into the box if the lane of traffic they are joining has come to a stop and and theyellow box is clear, the car should be positioned to join the lane of traffic in front in a bid to move out of the way of cars behind them.

This is what I'm on about. So they are entering the yellow box without clearing it and AFAIK this isn't listed in the rules of the road as one of the instances when you can enter a yellow box. Can you link to where you've read this?

Voodoomelon

PsychoSue wrote: »

OP from what u described with the lights flashing like mad n the hands etc shes an impatient wagon. n I TOTALLY see where ur coming from if ur gona make such a fuss n nearly have a coronary then dont bloody stop ur car.... Ill wait for the PATIENT person, sure Id feel safer with a patient driver behind me anyway..!!!

I actually like this, let her wave like a mad thing and dont go anywhere! :pac:

Owen

And you know what does my head in, when you see people putting makeup on while driving, it's always women! :pac:

PsychoSue

PaintDoctor wrote: »

And you know what does my head in, when you see people putting makeup on while driving, it's always women! :pac:

Well Im glad its only women cos I think Id crash if I saw a bloke doing it hahaha.... Cant understand it myself get up 2 bloody mins earlier. Its illegal to use phones while driving because they are distracting how distracting is tryna put ur friggin face on SLAP em with FINES N POINTS if ya ask me!!!

GreeBo

PsychoSue wrote: »

If by driving into the box you can't clear it completely then you should stop before it.


Cars turning LEFT out of a side road can proceed into the box if the lane of traffic they are joining has come to a stop and and theyellow box is clear, the car should be positioned to join the lane of traffic in front in a bid to move out of the way of cars behind them.


Cars wishing to turn RIGHT out of a side road where there is a line of cars stopped and queueing on the main road should not enter the box unless they can see that it is safe to COMPLETE the manouvere and make it across into the opposite lane without STOPPING in the box. At no time should they proceed if in doing so they would block the traffic that had right of way

Cars turning left onto the main road dont have free reign to enter the yellow box, otherwise they w/could block cars that are already on the main road and trying to turn right (onto the road the other driver is leaving)

Anan1

GreeBo wrote: »

Cars turning left onto the main road dont have free reign to enter the yellow box, otherwise they w/could block cars that are already on the main road and trying to turn right (onto the road the other driver is leaving)

The box will generally be wide enough for two cars to pass each other.

ABajaninCork

PsychoSue wrote: »

If by driving into the box you can't clear it completely then you should stop before it.


Cars turning LEFT out of a side road can proceed into the box if the lane of traffic they are joining has come to a stop and and theyellow box is clear, the car should be positioned to join the lane of traffic in front in a bid to move out of the way of cars behind them.


Cars wishing to turn RIGHT out of a side road where there is a line of cars stopped and queueing on the main road should not enter the box unless they can see that it is safe to COMPLETE the manouvere and make it across into the opposite lane without STOPPING in the box. At no time should they proceed if in doing so they would block the traffic that had right of way

Was slightly bemused by this, as I always thought that if you were turning RIGHT, then you COULD enter the box.

So decided to look it up on the ROTR:
http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/junctions-roundabouts/yellow-box-junctions.html

There ya go!:D

Ush1

Anan1 wrote: »

The box will generally be wide enough for two cars to pass each other.

Why is the box large enough to cover both lanes then when they only want one to be clear?

In my mind it makes sense that the boxes are to keep traffic on the main road as obstruction free as possible allowing people to exit off to the side road. Not designed to let people out from the side road, otherwise the yellow box wouldn't cover that side of the road.

PauloMN

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Buts it the attitude of these people that annoys me so much. "I'm letting you out, now hurry the f up about it!".

Big time. Had one of those yesterday morning, waving wildly at me to go (I was turning right at a nasty junction), but there was traffic on my right and I had to wait and see if it was turning or not. Eventually (after a few seconds like, not 20 minutes) I start moving and the b1tch drives off!!! Not only that, she starts this nodding sh1t as if to say "why didn't you go?".

Yeah, like I was going to use her judgement as to when I should pull out.... she obviously has great judgement in her Micra with dents all over it.

Beruthiel

Beruthiel wrote: »

Oh look.
A 'lets slag women' thread.
Because, as we all know, ALL men are 100% perfect on the road.

Oh look.
A female poster getting the hump because they've misinterpreted the OP and assume they're slating female drivers.
Because, as we all know, ALL men are 100% sexist pigs.

Zubeneschamali

Deleted User wrote: »

A female poster getting the hump

heh-heh heh-heh

He said "hump".

-Chris-

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh look.
A female poster getting the hump because they've misinterpreted the OP and assume they're slating female drivers.
Because, as we all know, ALL men are 100% sexist pigs.

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

heh-heh heh-heh

He said "hump".

Both posters infracted for trolling.

It's simple lads, this was a contentions thread to start with, that we let run because we don't want to be accused of censorship or being over-sensitive.
At the same time you can see from the earlier mod posts that there's a desire to keep a tight rein on the conversation because of the potential to offend.

The next person who crosses that line, in jest or in sincerity, will get a week off without warning.