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  • 19-10-2010 6:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭


    Was having a great day today, lgbt soc is having a movie night. Parents of course asked where I was going. I mentioned lgbt. My dad asked what the T was for (again). This time, however, rather than staying neutral to the idea of transgender, he basically called it a fetish, before recommending 'corrective' types of therapy for those 'sick men'. He then said, as an example, that I would never look like a woman because of my height.

    It was as if Gandalf from lord of the rings slapped me over the head with his stick and screamed YOU SHALL NOT PASS! (yes, dramatic, but it covers the point).

    Anyway, off to drink my head under the table, I won't be on again till later.

    **** this...


Comments

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Passing is a matter of opinion, but how you feel! Never mind the harsh comments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    What height are you, 7 foot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    6' 5"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭electrobi


    Supermodel to the max


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    First of all **** your dad. I've learnt that you kind of have to abandon their opinions on a lot of issues like this or else they just eat you up.

    Do not freak out over the height thing. Although its unusual to be so tall, thats not to say tall girls don't exist! A girl in my year is at least 6'1, 6'5 in heels, do you think people go round asking her if she's a girl? They don't :P. Passing has nothing to do with height, its to do with attitude, for example I know loads of transguys who pass as male, but they're so caught up in the parts of themselves that don't pass it just ruins the whole thing and they don't pass at all. Other guys who are actually quite feminine, pass really well because they are confident in that they are male and they don't care about passing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Last time I was dragged into a womens clothes shop when out shopping with mates, they had 'Tall' sections for women with long legs and 'lanky' (for want of a better word) frames. So there are plenty of tall females out there, height has nothing to do with anything anyway.

    Pay no heed to your dad's comments either.

    Oh, and drink sensibly tonight. No-one likes seeing a drunken girl making a show of herself. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    In scragg's alley right now. Definitely worth going out tonight. Took half a bottle of bushmills for me to open up but the girls at the lgbt are fine with it. BTW, gotta love Android txt correction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    really, don't get caught up in the height thing, it not all that relevant otherwise people would think every girl over 6 foot is transgender, but they don't.

    it can really hurt when people close to us say horrible things like that, but you just gotta keep going.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭Eebs


    hare05 wrote: »
    In scragg's alley right now. Definitely worth going out tonight. Took half a bottle of bushmills for me to open up but the girls at the lgbt are fine with it. BTW, gotta love Android txt correction.


    Don't go crazy. Seriously. This is just a flipant comment. They don't 'know' any trans people. My Mum would have thought the same, as would my Dad, before I came out.

    Also, your Dad has NO idea about passing. So don't take that comment to heart either.

    They'll come round in time most likely but don't go drinking yourself stupid now. It's way too early for that. They just don't KNOW any better. If and when you come out you can help educate them on this.

    Don't panic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭deirdre_dub


    You may remember some months ago I posted a link to a TV3 interview done by Vanessa Lacey - the development officer for TENI. It didn't really show on the telly, but she is about your height. And she looks great. Even in heels!!! And I suspect you have the very significant advantage of starting transition at a younger age than she did.

    Sorry about your Dad. He isn't Gandalf. Gandalf would have knelt before you, honouring your true nature. Gandalf would have asked for your permission to pass.

    Seriously.

    I had that very conversation with some academics last night. The older civilisations tend to be the ones that honour transgender people. There are still some civilisations in the world where people like you and I would automatically be promoted to leadership positions in the community simply because we are trans.

    So, let me add my voice to those that say f*ck your Dad and those like him. I know it's easy for me to say that - he isn't my Dad - but seriously, he needs to get a clue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Eebs wrote: »
    Don't panic.

    Bring a towel. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭deirdre_dub


    Don't panic
    Bring a towel. :)
    Put an S.E.P. field around it :)


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