TNA Storyline/finish Re-thread Thread!

jaykhunter

OK guys, just watching last week's iMPACT, spotting that they've done yet another re-thread of a previously-booked angle; so i'd like to create a thread that we can update whenever TNA reuse an angle/finish from an old WCW/WWF PPV.

I'll start us off :

14th Oct iMPACT
Madison Rayne defeats the new-KO champion, Tara, by pinning her immediately, who was in on it. Smacks of DX's Triple H winning the European title from HBK in WWF, Dec 1997; or the "Fingerpoke of Doom", where Nash laid down for Hogan in WCW, Jan 1999.

TNA Bound For Glory 2010
Hogan recreates the Bash at the Beach nWo heel turn by turning Hardy heel, while he wins the TNA world title. Hogan starts up a new top heel faction with Hardy, Abyss, Jarrett, Bischoff and Hardy. Held in Daytona Beach FL as well.

There's been loads more! What others can you think of?

Super-Rush

Cant remember the date but they recreated the Montreal screw job with Kurt Angle and AJ. Angle got screwed, threathened to quit and spat in Hogans face. Earl Hebner was the referee.

chordtype

super-rush wrote: »

Cant remember the date but they recreated the Montreal screw job with Kurt Angle and AJ. Angle got screwed, threathened to quit and spat in Hogans face. Earl Hebner was the referee.

Jan 21st iMPACT!

Mr.Nice Guy

They did the ECW One Night Stand thing a few months back. What was it called? Last Stand or something?

GTR63

super-rush wrote: »

Cant remember the date but they recreated the Montreal screw job with Kurt Angle and AJ. Angle got screwed, threathened to quit and spat in Hogans face. Earl Hebner was the referee.

Haven't Tna done the Montreal screwjob thing on about 5 seperate occasions.

Gerard.C

Black Machismo Jay Lethal

Fortune = Poor Horsemen

Abyss = Kane and Mankinds weird child

Among so many others

gimmick

super-rush wrote: »

Cant remember the date but they recreated the Montreal screw job with Kurt Angle and AJ. Angle got screwed, threathened to quit and spat in Hogans face. Earl Hebner was the referee.

I have an issue with this one. It was not a re do of the screw job, it was a parody of it really. The "screw job" is probably one of the most unique things to ever happen in wrestling and the controversy it created will probably never be matched. In TNA it was just another storyline.

As for the thrust of the thread - wrestling is arguably cyclical. Like how many storylines can you do without starting to repeat or copy? Now I do agree that the whole thing at BFG was so disgustingly contrived it was almost sickening BUT apart from people 18+ I really doubt many kids know about the Bash At The Beach thing or the "fingerpoke of doom" etc.

What annoyed me most about the ending of BFG was the rubbish being thrown in the ring. Was there actually TNA officials telling people to do this, as there was no element of surprise in this one.

jaykhunter

gimmick wrote: »

I have an issue with this one. It was not a re do of the screw job, it was a parody of it really.

My God, that's even worse! :pac::pac:

gimmick wrote: »

As for the thrust of the thread - wrestling is arguably cyclical. Like how many storylines can you do without starting to repeat or copy? Now I do agree that the whole thing at BFG was so disgustingly contrived it was almost sickening BUT apart from people 18+ I really doubt many kids know about the Bash At The Beach thing or the "fingerpoke of doom" etc.

Ha, i was chatting about this with my bro yesterday. We concluded that there's only so many finishes in the world and you're bound to step on others toes, but if done right, and executed well, we wouldn't make the distinction or give out. It's the flagrant, blatant referencing/copying that we've a problem with. It smacks of cheap and lazy booking to not even try re-tool it into their own work.

I'll cite Inception as taking aspects of The Matrix (or Exorcist 2 if you're keen!) but nobody complains as it was a tremendously well made film with some unique ideas. Or Nexus, a typical invasion angle with a new slant (it's the rookies) and generally done very well.

Anyway, this thread is for grumpy old farts like me who've been watching wrestling for years/decades and notice this stuff. Best put this wrestling knowledge to some use, eh?

-- Dreamer's family being escorted away during the Styles/Dreamer match @ Hardcore Justice was an intentional direct reference to Foley/Rock's I Quit Match from Rumble 99.

Machismo Fan

gimmick wrote: »

What annoyed me most about the ending of BFG was the rubbish being thrown in the ring. Was there actually TNA officials telling people to do this, as there was no element of surprise in this one.

I heard over that weekend that it was TNA that started it and the fans just continued it.

And it's not just TNA doing this. Nexus is the same premise as the nWo. The Cena/Barrett thing is very similar to HBK/JBL, Undertaker/Kane is exactly the same as Undertaker/Kane. As jayk said, I don't care how many times things are done as long as a different slant is put on it and it makes for good TV.

Super-Rush

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I heard over that weekend that it was TNA that started it and the fans just continued it.

And it's not just TNA doing this. Nexus is the same premise as the nWo. The Cena/Barrett thing is very similar to HBK/JBL, Undertaker/Kane is exactly the same as Undertaker/Kane. As jayk said, I don't care how many times things are done as long as a different slant is put on it and it makes for good TV.

I heard that Dixie was urging people to throw rubbish and her catering staff started it.

Gerard.C

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I heard over that weekend that it was TNA that started it and the fans just continued it.

And it's not just TNA doing this. Nexus is the same premise as the nWo. The Cena/Barrett thing is very similar to HBK/JBL, Undertaker/Kane is exactly the same as Undertaker/Kane. As jayk said, I don't care how many times things are done as long as a different slant is put on it and it makes for good TV.

The Nexus were complete unknowns, the nwo were established stars when they began. I dont recall a group of unknowns making the impact the nexus did. The Cena/Barrett thing is brilliant though, the HBK story was just a part of the build up to his match with Undertaker

Machismo Fan

Gerard.C wrote: »

The Nexus were complete unknowns, the nwo were established stars when they began. I dont recall a group of unknowns making the impact the nexus did. The Cena/Barrett thing is brilliant though, the HBK story was just a part of the build up to his match with Undertaker

But the base stories are the same. Invading group and unwilling servant. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's a fact. As I said, I don't have a problem with repeating stories as long as a new twist is being put on it which is the case. People condemn anything TNA ever repeat before they ever have a chance to show where they're going to go with it.

Gerard.C

Machismo Fan wrote: »

But the base stories are the same. Invading group and unwilling servant. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's a fact. As I said, I don't have a problem with repeating stories as long as a new twist is being put on it which is the case. People condemn anything TNA ever repeat before they ever have a chance to show where they're going to go with it.

Yeah but if you want to be that specific, how many fueds are just I dont like you - I dont like you either, lets fight. There will obviously be similarities every now and then. I think the point is that TNA repeat them fairly regularly, and in fairness, myself and others have given TNA a fair few chances to show where they're going with things

Penn

While storylines are obviously reused, TNA seem to try to reuse the most unique ones such as the Screwjob and NWO. When Vince and HBK were feuding, they sort of reused the Screwjob finish, but it made perfect sense to the story. TNAs version was a pure rip-off.

Machismo Fan

Gerard.C wrote: »

Yeah but if you want to be that specific, how many fueds are just I dont like you - I dont like you either, lets fight. There will obviously be similarities every now and then. I think the point is that TNA repeat them fairly regularly, and in fairness, myself and others have given TNA a fair few chances to show where they're going with things

Well the whole issue between two guys so they fight story is pretty much the base of all wrestling storylines so I don't really see your point there. I just listed three examples right now of WWE repeating storylines, nevermind adding LayCool as a blatant Beautiful People ripoff. Wrestling repeats storylines, it's not just something TNA does. It's where they take those stories and how good they are that should be judged.

jaykhunter

I think i was the earliest saucepan-banger (or is that clanger?) regarding CeNexus' storyline similarities to HBK/JBL. But it just seems that since Hog-off has come in in January we get a steady influx of blatant referencing of old angles. You can make a WWE Re-Thread Thread if u like! I think i find it more offensive that old WWF/WCW guys are coming into TNA and rehashing old WWF/WCW storylines; as opposed to WWE re-doing WWE storylines...

Not really an angle of sorts but of course, TNA tried re-creating the Monday Night Wars in March-April

Machismo Fan

jaykhunter wrote: »

I think i was the earliest saucepan-banger (or is that clanger?) regarding CeNexus' storyline similarities to HBK/JBL. But it just seems that since Hog-off has come in in January we get a steady influx of blatant referencing of old angles. You can make a WWE Re-Thread Thread if u like! I think i find it more offensive that old WWF/WCW guys are coming into TNA and rehashing old WWF/WCW storylines; as opposed to WWE re-doing WWE storylines...

Nah, it's been a long term problem in TNA. They've played off Montreal a numbers of times, SEX was pretty much entirely based on events from the past, they've tried the nWo before with the Kings of Wrestling (even to the extent that Red played the Mysterio lawn dart role), MEM/Frontline/New Blood/Millionaires Club, I could continue but the problem was those failed as individual angles themselves without even taking into account them being ripped off.

I have no problem playing off old storylines (especially successful ones which the nWo was) but it's whether or not it's done properly is the issue, especially to see if they learn from the mistakes of the original angle (most notably the fact that the nWo were never beaten).

jaykhunter

Mild TNA iMPACT Spoiler;

December 18, 1995 edition of WCW Monday Nitro revisited.

(That's the show when

Madusa dumped the WWF Women's Belt in the trash

)

here's a pic of it :
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs581.ash2/150340_161205080584483_100000849760774_274506_5448602_n.jpg

jaykhunter

iMPACT! 17th December.
EY

finds the WORLD F***KING TITLE in the bin. (Much like Jim Duggan and the TV title on the Feb 16, 2000 edition of WCW Saturday Night)