Single Farm Payment

reilig

On the second last page in today's journal they are talking about the SFP advance payment which will be paid on 18th october. But further down in the article, they are talking about delays for people whose maps have not yet been digitised (ie. The same people that have had delays with the disadvantaged payment - me included).

Am i right in thinking that because I only received approx 10% of the monet that i was due for the disadvantaged payment on sept 22nd then it is likely that I will only receive approx 10% of what I am due in my SFP??? :eek:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

whelan1

get on to your local politician asap;)

johngalway

There's no money for honest people in this country.

whelan1

did you ring the sfp office ... now is the time to do something about it , not when the money hasn't arrived

dryan

So, i wonder are we still on course for the 18th?

whelan1

we'd bloody better be or the dept will have me to deal with:eek:

reilig

I'm not on course anyway, I know that much. I rang the SFP office and spoke to a local TD. I submitted maps for all but 1 parcel of land with my application last may. This 1 parcel of land constitutes about 10% of my farm - so for the area aid scheme i received about 10% of the 75% disadvantaged payment that I was due and it also looks likely that I will only receive 10% of my SFP because my maps have not yet been digitised. The SFP office told me that it will most likely be the new year before my maps are digitised and only when they are digitised will the remainder of my Disadvantaged area payment and my SFP be paid. Anyone else who hasn't received the full Disadvantaged payment that they were due on september 23rd because they submitted maps with their application will be waiting for their money too.

I wouldn't mind, but the maps that i submitted didn't reduce the area that i was farming at all - a DEP of Ag official that i saught advice from in the local area office advised me to submit the maps and highlight pieces of land that weren't being claimed for but had not been marked off the map - this included 2 ringforts that are covered in scrub. The area that these cover had been reduced from my claim many years ago - but they had never been drawn off the maps.

Another quiet christmas on the cards I expect!!

whelan1

thats what ya get for being honest:D

BeeDI

reilig wrote: »

I'm not on course anyway, I know that much. I rang the SFP office and spoke to a local TD. I submitted maps for all but 1 parcel of land with my application last may. This 1 parcel of land constitutes about 10% of my farm - so for the area aid scheme i received about 10% of the 75% disadvantaged payment that I was due and it also looks likely that I will only receive 10% of my SFP because my maps have not yet been digitised. The SFP office told me that it will most likely be the new year before my maps are digitised and only when they are digitised will the remainder of my Disadvantaged area payment and my SFP be paid. Anyone else who hasn't received the full Disadvantaged payment that they were due on september 23rd because they submitted maps with their application will be waiting for their money too.

I wouldn't mind, but the maps that i submitted didn't reduce the area that i was farming at all - a DEP of Ag official that i saught advice from in the local area office advised me to submit the maps and highlight pieces of land that weren't being claimed for but had not been marked off the map - this included 2 ringforts that are covered in scrub. The area that these cover had been reduced from my claim many years ago - but they had never been drawn off the maps.

Another quiet christmas on the cards I expect!!

In my case, like you I updated my maps, by marking in a few areas of scrub, which hadn't been previously deducted. Unlike you, I had to reduce my total claimed area accordingly. To further complicate my situation, I decided to lease out a block of land which was in mt previous applications to a neighbour.
Obviously both he and I had to adjust our claimed areas accordingly.

Now I was certain, that those changes, would mean, that neither mt=y neighbour or I would gat paid, untill we had been both, interrogated by the serious crimes squad, and had most of our finger nails extracted.

BUT, we both got he 50% payment two weeks ago for the disadvantage payment:D:D

It just shows the random nature of the decisions the dept makes. I would have thought, payment in your case was a better bet than mone, as I had more issues changing from one year to the next.

johngalway

BeeDI wrote: »

interrogated by the serious crimes squad, and had most of our finger nails extracted.

Amen to that.

Do people handling chemical, nuclear and biological weapons have as many forms to fill I wonder?

5live

Just to inform you guys that 4 years ago i had issues with digitising maps and it took over 2 years to get them done despite the dept telling me all was ok every time i asked. I found out, unfortunately, that getting very angry on the phone to some drone in the dept so that you are moved up the line was the only solution. I eventually get paid on 22 december but my hair hasnt regrown yet

supersean1999

am i right to presume anyone who got cleared and paid for the area aid should be automatically paid on 18th for the sfp

whelan1

i am just waiting to see what the journal will say tomorrow:rolleyes:

whelan1

just read a preview of this weeks fj on facebook , all set for monday happy days

adne

Any word when REP4 paymets will be out

supersean1999

i read 75% of money is available and ready for payment in late oct - early november and the last 25% will not be paid until early next year, but i would not bank on that until it arrives

snowman707

adne wrote: »

Any word when REP4 paymets will be out

got a letter yesterday that they will not be paying for Supplementary Measures 8 and 10 in 2010
"as compliance with these measures cannot be verified until after year end> You will be provided with an application form for the measures you have chosen at a later date".

more time delaying bullsh1t

iron man

i got a payment today into my bank account from the department of agric. the problem is i dont know what it for or what its a appart of. they sent nothing in the post to back it up or expalin what it is. its definatley not the SFP........

Jed_Bartlet

iron man wrote: »

i got a payment today into my bank account from the department of agric. the problem is i dont know what it for or what its a appart of. they sent nothing in the post to back it up or expalin what it is. its definatley not the SFP........

Unless a miracle happened, SFP won't start until next week. They normally send out a statement by post but you could try ringing the Department's office in Cavan (1890 200 508) - ask to be put through to the payments section and ask whomever you get put through to to check the most recent payment you received and ask what scheme it related to.

whelan1

could be a week later when you get the piece of paper in the post

supersean1999

has anyone got paid today

whelan1

will check , but fj said it would be in our accounts tomorrow

supersean1999

ok thanks

whelan1

no . not in yet , will keep you posted:D

blue5000

Nothin except more feckin referral charges in mine. At least with santy you know the date he arrives!:(

red bull

Did anyone get SFP payment today ?

raindodger

not me any way and need the money

limerick farmer

no money yet supposed to arrive in accounts tomorrow

whelan1

happy days , its in my account :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

jonny d

just checked online and yipee moola has arrived:D

Shauny2010

ooh la la

dryan

Just checked - got paid for my own entitlements.
Leasing some entitlements and i dont see any payment for them.
Anyone else in the same boat?

whelan1

wouldn't want to be trying to ring them today , i'd say the lines will be jammers

dryan

anyone with a link to the offices contact details or phone numbers?

5live

Yup. Money paid in full and on time. There has to be a catch:o

Ashill5

Great day today. Just checked my A/C and got paid my SFP.:D:D:D

Username John

What % of the SFP should have been paid?

I got some money in me account
But its only about 15% of the SFP... :eek:

I see lots of calls involving large amounts of time being on-hold in my future

whelan1

i got 50% the other 50% is due on december 1st

JohnBoy

does it take longer to get to some banks than others?

whelan1

i am with ulster bank- for the time being:rolleyes:

reilig

I got 14% of what I was due.

Looks like I'm going to have to wait for my maps to be digitised until I get the rest.

whelan1

reilig wrote: »

I got 14% of what I was due.

Looks like I'm going to have to wait for my maps to be digitised until I get the rest.

this is a total cock up on their part... people should be getting interest on this money. i would be livid

reilig

whelan1 wrote: »

this is a total cock up on their part... people should be getting interest on this money. i would be livid

I've spoken to them. They warned me that it was probably going to happen. They hope to have all digitising done by the end of January 2011. They have contracted in extra workers this week to speed the job up.

Something inside my head tells me that they don't have enough money to pay all farmers in this years budget and this digitising is just a way of holding things up so that they can pay us out of the 2011 budget in January. I hope they have enough money to pay me what they owe me for my FWMS grant. My bank manager is getting uneasy.

dryan

dryan wrote: »

Just checked - got paid for my own entitlements.
Leasing some entitlements and i dont see any payment for them.
Anyone else in the same boat?

I got them on the phone regarding the entitlements i have leased.
Apparently the leased entitlements application was never processed - it was just 'left one side'. It was just before 10am when i got through to the Transfer of entitlements offices. The person i got on the phone was very helpful and looked through the application and from their perspective, everything looked in order. However, that person was not responsible for processing the application.
I asked to speak to the person that processes these applications and was told that the person has not come into work yet - that was 9:58 am!!

locky76

Came in today, happy days!

whelan1

remainder of disadvantaged area payments to be paid out from tomorrow

Username John

Rang the dept re my payment. (In all fairness, the girl I was talking to was as helpful as she could be)
Same problem as others on here mentioned - waiting for maps to be digitised. But I was told this should happen told in the next month...

We'll see... could do with that money though...

snowman707

JohnBoy wrote: »

does it take longer to get to some banks than others?

whelan1 wrote: »

i am with ulster bank- for the time being:rolleyes:

I'm with Add Interest Bank , money in a/c to day

supersean1999

whelan1 wrote: »

remainder of disadvantaged area payments to be paid out from tomorrow

so we should have the money on thur

raindodger

dryan wrote: »

I got them on the phone regarding the entitlements i have leased.
Apparently the leased entitlements application was never processed - it was just 'left one side'. It was just before 10am when i got through to the Transfer of entitlements offices. The person i got on the phone was very helpful and looked through the application and from their perspective, everything looked in order. However, that person was not responsible for processing the application.
I asked to speak to the person that processes these applications and was told that the person has not come into work yet - that was 9:58 am!!

much the same here was paid for my own entitlements one i transfered in no rang the help line got transfered to the same office as you was told the person dealing with this was at the desk for a few minutes and would ring back................................. still waiting

dryan

raindodger wrote: »

much the same here was paid for my own entitlements one i transfered in no rang the help line got transfered to the same office as you was told the person dealing with this was at the desk for a few minutes and would ring back................................. still waiting

I rang back yesterday evening at about 4:30 to get some clarification. Again, the guy that answered the phone was very helpful. He told me that regarding all leased entitlements, the plan is that they will all be paid out by December 1st.
Have to explain all this to the bank man now!