Is your town in need of a new nightclub??

EPjnr

Hi guys,

If you feel your town needs a new nightclub, then let me know?
Ideally a town that has lots of pubs and only one nightclub.
For example; i'm form a town that had a dancehall operate as a nightclub for 5-6 years charging 10 euro at the door into an overcrowded h*le and had no real competition, now the town has 3 nightclubs competing against each other and its 5€ into them all now and all have top entertainment. (Can't beat a bit of competition) but I want to know of towns that have a similar story and are in need of a new club or some competition.

suey71

Blanchardstown.

I'm amazed that for an area with such a huge population that there is only 1 nightclub.

That said, I don't think another one would last long.

High unemployment rate etc.

fishy21

carrigaline in cork. People can't be bothered getting a taxi to and from cork city. Population is about 15k to 20k and there are plenty more small towns in the area.

There is not even a late bar so if i was setting up a nightclub it would be there.

mikemac

Nenagh

Two small nightclubs, both crap.

Large enough town, over 30 pubs in the town.
15,000 people in the surrounding area.

Please OP, come visit and open a nightclub.
Boards.ie discount?

EPjnr

Nenagh: I've thought of this one, but I thought there is only one nightclub in Nenagh - Maximus? discount a possibility feeelingstressed:D

Carrigaline never crossed my mind i must do a bit of reserch now.

I'm trying to avoid Dublin suey 71

wobbles-grogan

Birr.

Currently we have 1 nightclub, which charges 12 quid in on the door and you cant take your coats upstairs so you gotta pay 2 quid to hang it up. So its really 14 quid in. Then they get crappy dj's in the whole time.

Would need a bit of competition there. Theres a good catchment area around birr aswell, and its always busy.

EPjnr

I've thought of Birr but the size of the town turned me off a little, but never ruled it out.
Melba's being that one nightclub? I see they had strippers and drink promos at the weekend, always a sign that things are not going too well. What kind of a crowd have they there every weekend? From what I rememeber passing through, it is in a good location. Is there any old nightclub in the town closed down? Or potential buildings in a good location?

feelingstressed; the more I look at Nenagh, the more I think it would be a great spot.

Musicman2000

Brave man opening a night club in this climate:)

rossy00

naas........... time is a kiddies club and the court is an old folks home.

wobbles-grogan

EPjnr wrote:

I've thought of Birr but the size of the town turned me off a little, but never ruled it out.
Melba's being that one nightclub? I see they had strippers and drink promos at the weekend, always a sign that things are not going too well. What kind of a crowd have they there every weekend? From what I rememeber passing through, it is in a good location. Is there any old nightclub in the town closed down? Or potential buildings in a good location?

feelingstressed; the more I look at Nenagh, the more I think it would be a great spot.

To be honest, I dont go out in birr too often anymore. Moved away from home and dont go back all too often! If i am around i would go in there and theres always a good crowd around on a friday saturday night. There was another nightclub, but it was a hotel bar that had a late license, couldnt really call it a nightclub. Very rare they'd get a dj in and that.

I cant think of any buildings/pubs that may be vacant at the moment and would suit as a nightclub, but then again, im not there too often anymore!!

clairemcbear

Kilkenny

Only one nightclub,any other seems to close down after a few months. The one nightclub is now over 20's so the young'un's and underagers take over the pubs..

EPjnr

From my research Kilkenny has the below in terms of nightclubs/late bars, i could be wrong:
Langtons (Thursday/Saturday)
Set, part of Langtons (Saturdays)
Pegasus, in O'Faoileans (Fridays/Saturdays)
Magnums (Fridays/Saturdays)
Kilkenny is apparently a great place to go out in? So someone must be doing something right down there. Kilkenny should have a 3rd level collage i feel, that’s when i'll be heading towards Kilkenny

Naas never even crossed my mind, Does Naas not have one of the biggest nightclubs in the country or am I mixing it up with somewhere else?

clairemcbear

EPjnr wrote: »

From my research Kilkenny has the below in terms of nightclubs/late bars, i could be wrong:
Langtons (Thursday/Saturday)
Set, part of Langtons (Saturdays)
Pegasus, in O'Faoileans (Fridays/Saturdays)
Magnums (Fridays/Saturdays)
Kilkenny is apparently a great place to go out in? So someone must be doing something right down there. Kilkenny should have a 3rd level collage i feel, that’s when i'll be heading towards Kilkenny

Naas never even crossed my mind, Does Naas not have one of the biggest nightclubs in the country or am I mixing it up with somewhere else?

Langtons - The club I was talking about (over 20's)
Set - Not a club,also over 20's-which I am,but I'm just saying
Pegasus - ahmm...no
Magnums - closed down,the one I mentioned


Kilkenny could really do with competition,especially for the younger crowd,i.e 18-25 yr olds.. somewhere that resembles a college area type club,with promotions and theme nights etc.. but somewhere that will last

EPjnr

Oh right cheers clairemcbear, taking all on board, will look further into it. I must see why these clubs are closing so quickly after opening, in a town like Kilkenny with great night life apparently.
There are businesses closing all over the country because they are not making money simply because there is not demand for their product/service
And then there are businesses that are just not being ran properly managing costs etc, an accountant told me the other day there are loads of businesses going to close in the coming months simply because they got caught up in the over borrowing/over lending from the banks and just can’t pay it back although they still are profitable . I have to see what bracket these clubs in Kilkenny fall into.

EPjnr

Kilkenny
Naas
Nenagh
Carrigaline
Blanchardstown
Birr

Anywhere else people??

Nenagh I really think is the one that is crying out for a new club out of all them imo,

Lenny Lovett

EPjnr wrote: »

Kilkenny
Naas
Nenagh
Carrigaline
Blanchardstown
Birr

Anywhere else people??

Nenagh I really think is the one that is crying out for a new club out of all them imo,

New Ross - No late bar or Night Club. A few potential premises too.

Raskolnikov

EPjnr wrote: »

Carrigaline never crossed my mind i must do a bit of reserch now.

I wouldn't waste too much time on it, pubs are closing left, right and centre in Carrigaline. Even when there was a late bar open (Rosies), it was never busy.

EPjnr

Lenny Lovett wrote: »

New Ross - No late bar or Night Club. A few potential premises too.

From i gather there about ten pubs around the town. Where do the locals go for nightlife, waterford?

I see 'the ship' is up for lease, from what I can see from the photos it needs a lot of work. But New Ross seems the best suggestion i've got so far, cheers. What is the pub trade like there at the minute?

Fries-With-That

EPjnr wrote: »

Kilkenny
Naas
Nenagh
Carrigaline
Blanchardstown
Birr

Anywhere else people??

Nenagh I really think is the one that is crying out for a new club out of all them imo,

Nightclubs like any other business need footfall, Maximus nightclub use the catch all comers policy of offering free admission before 11.

You also have the late night bar which is the Kenyon this is owned by the same people that own Maximus.

I have to admire your style when it comes to research, ask the good folk on boards and see what pops up.

I honestly don't think Nenagh has the ability to sustain a second nightclub regardless of its population hinterland.

Maximus isn't full Fridays or Sundays, and I can tell you from personal experience that even before the recession there was very little disposable income evident on the streets of Nenagh on a Friday or Sunday night.

EPjnr

Fries-With-That wrote: »

Nightclubs like any other business need footfall, Maximus nightclub use the catch all comers policy of offering free admission before 11.

You also have the late night bar which is the Kenyon this is owned by the same people that own Maximus.

I have to admire your style when it comes to research, ask the good folk on boards and see what pops up.

I honestly don't think Nenagh has the ability to sustain a second nightclub regardless of its population hinterland.

Maximus isn't full Fridays or Sundays, and I can tell you from personal experience that even before the recession there was very little disposable income evident on the streets of Nenagh on a Friday or Sunday night.

From feedback that i've being getting elsewhere Nenagh has a nightclub that not a lot of people like, it's over packed on Saturdays and there is nothing that exciting in the lines of entertainment in there. Its also over priced from what I gather.

If a new nightclub opened in Nenagh, offering top entertainment, big names and most importantly something new I really feel it would put a huge amount of pressure on the club that is there at the minute, and I believe Nenagh could sustain two nightclubs and if it couldn’t I would imagine the new nightclub would be the one to come out on top.

Don’t worry this is not my only research, i've being talking to people in Nenagh for a while before this thread but I just said i'd put it up here to see if any new opportunities popped up.

Fries-With-That

EPjnr wrote: »

From feedback that i've being getting elsewhere Nenagh has a nightclub that not a lot of people like,(True) it's over packed on Saturdays(True) and there is nothing that exciting in the lines of entertainment in there.(True) Its also over priced from what I gather.(True)

If a new nightclub opened in Nenagh, offering top entertainment, big names and most importantly something new I really feel it would put a huge amount of pressure on the club that is there at the minute,(True) and I believe Nenagh could sustain two nightclubs and if it couldn’t I would imagine the new nightclub would be the one to come out on top.(True)

Don’t worry this is not my only research, i've being talking to people in Nenagh for a while before this thread but I just said i'd put it up here to see if any new opportunities popped up.

The bold additions are mine, I agree with all your points.
I live in the town, I have no connection to either business mentioned on this thread.The biggest problem you'd face in opening a new nightclub in Nenagh is finding a suitable venue.
The reason I made my initial comment is that I have discussed this several times with various business people in the town and each time we all came to the same conclusion...great idea (for all the points you make above and more) but a venue is the problem. If you're pockets are deep enough to build/refurbish a venue you might do all the above.

On a side note..............**** I know of an excellent location it would need major upgrading and a bar licence, but could easily hold 1000 + patrons, could have at least 2 levels, with plenty of parking and no hassles as regards noise pollution.
If you're serious about opening a nightclub in Nenagh I'd love to dip my finger in that pie and I have contacts in the business.

PM me

bigneacy

Might be of some interest to you... The company that owned one of the nightclubs in Dundalk has ceased trading. Amber nightclub has shut down. Dundalk (pop. 35,000) has now only 2 nightclubs.

RATM

Just a note on Dundalk- I had a mate who was about to set up a coffee shop in Dundalk 4 yrs back. She was approached for protection money so she dropped the idea. I don't know if that still applies but its something to be wary of.

bigneacy

RATM wrote: »

Just a note on Dundalk- I had a mate who was about to set up a coffee shop in Dundalk 4 yrs back. She was approached for protection money so she dropped the idea. I don't know if that still applies but its something to be wary of.

:eek: Jesus Christ... I thought those days were over... Ya sure it wasn't just someone chancing their arm?

holystungun9

Clonmel, it's a pretty big town too. I haven't been there for a while but I presume nothing much has changed. Dannos is the main club but O Keefes is also a kind of late bar place with a couple of dance floors that seem to do well. Worth sussing out.

EPjnr

Cheers guys!
Visited Newross last weekend, went to the town on bank hol sunday.. pubs were very quite i was shocked... 8000 ppl... where were they? And there is a late bar there... very nice bar actually... did a rough head count about 400 ppl in there. talked to ppl down there and most ppl go to waterford and wexford! viewed a premises taht has potential perfect location but requires 100's of thousands!

Will look into dundalk immediately, thanks.. not the kind of town i was looking for but have being talking to ppl involved in mantra in maynooth and may have changed my views a little on the kind of location im looking for
Protection money' ...... :rolleyes:

EPjnr

Tramore is now without a nightclub i believe ....

helimachoptor

Dun laoghaire

PCPhoto

OP you might be better off getting a map of Ireland and posting a pin at some random town.

theres a tonne of towns/cities which would benefit from a new club - but the problem is the margins for profit are very narrow - drinks offer a slight mark-up and would be the main incentive for getting people away from a pub.

Lets face it - if you are comfortable in a pub having a laugh - why would you want to pay an entry fee to a club to do the same.... people these days are watching the money...so the only incentive would be offering cheaper drink or drink promotions.....its a market which isn't really viable in my opinion..... by all means - if you have money to invest - it could turn out to be a great investment, but you need to convince people to part with their money - which in this current climate is not an easy thing to do.

As we approach Christmas - people will not be going out as much as normal - so they can save money to buy presents and maybe go out over the holidays, so if you are serious, consider having a venue which could offer christmas parties/sectioned off areas/reserved areas - VIP areas.

Best of luck with it if you do start a club somewhere....its going to be an expensive gamble (hope it works out)

Ashlinggnilsia

Clonmel 20,000+ people 1 night club, and everyone is sick of it.

holystungun9

Ashlinggnilsia wrote: »

Clonmel 20,000+ people 1 night club, and everyone is sick of it.

Which? Dannos or O Keefe's

Ashlinggnilsia

holystungun9 wrote: »

Which? Dannos or O Keefe's

Danno's is pretty much gone, only open bank holidays, xmas, halloween and the likes

bigneacy

PCPhoto wrote: »

OP you might be better off getting a map of Ireland and posting a pin at some random town.

theres a tonne of towns/cities which would benefit from a new club - but the problem is the margins for profit are very narrow - drinks offer a slight mark-up and would be the main incentive for getting people away from a pub.

Lets face it - if you are comfortable in a pub having a laugh - why would you want to pay an entry fee to a club to do the same.... people these days are watching the money...so the only incentive would be offering cheaper drink or drink promotions.....its a market which isn't really viable in my opinion..... by all means - if you have money to invest - it could turn out to be a great investment, but you need to convince people to part with their money - which in this current climate is not an easy thing to do.

As we approach Christmas - people will not be going out as much as normal - so they can save money to buy presents and maybe go out over the holidays, so if you are serious, consider having a venue which could offer christmas parties/sectioned off areas/reserved areas - VIP areas.

Best of luck with it if you do start a club somewhere....its going to be an expensive gamble (hope it works out)

"a club is not just for christmas" :pac:

mikemac

Out of interest, for Nenagh, is Club Meka in the Abbey Court Hotel still open? I see a lot of mention of only one nightclub in Nenagh.
It was a bit outside town, the location was an issue though there was a shuttle bus doing laps off the town.

Many, many people in Nenagh used to get a bus to the Ragg outside Thurlus so there is a market in Nenagh for sure.

Not sure what your location will be though

D e e

edit: Nevermind!

CoalBucket

fishy21 wrote: »

carrigaline in cork. People can't be bothered getting a taxi to and from cork city. Population is about 15k to 20k and there are plenty more small towns in the area.

There is not even a late bar so if i was setting up a nightclub it would be there.

Spot on. dont live in carrigaline but have been out there a few times and am amazed the place just closes down. Cork too far and costly to get a cab to and from.

unnameduser

I can't see another nightclub in Nenagh being a success. It would probably get the crowds at the start because it would be a change from the norm. However the days of full nightclubs in Nenagh are no longer around.

No meka is no longer open. It's been closed for years.

ciano1

+1 on Clonmel

Dannos is the only 'Proper'-ish nightclub but that only opens a handful of times a year, and usually packs out when it does..

Okeeffes is the ONLY other option but at this stage is nothing but a filthy cattlemart!
A new nightclub would do well considering Clonmel has a popluation of around 20,000

stepbystep

Midleton Co. Cork, population including rural areas of nearly 27,000 (according to wiki) last night club was closed down bout 10 years ago because it suited the hotel that it was in, planning permision has been grant twice for a new 1, 1 of those is an old leisure center, has planning for nightclub, late bar and 2 story extension and planning for new bridge to allow access from tesco carpark and has all the licenses, but was put up for sale as soon as the owner got the planning and licenses! most recent was granted for a nightclub in the old cinema, but has been nothing happen since it was granted.
Midleton currently has a 1 late bar that is packed to the rafters of a saturday night and if your not in before 11 you can 4get about gettin in there. Midleton is also a Cork satellite town, with rail links to the city and every growing population, a nightclub would be a great addition to midleton and would have a massive earning potential, with it been the only night club between dungarvan and Cork city!!

deereidy

EPjnr wrote: »

Hi guys,

If you feel your town needs a new nightclub, then let me know?
Ideally a town that has lots of pubs and only one nightclub.
For example; i'm form a town that had a dancehall operate as a nightclub for 5-6 years charging 10 euro at the door into an overcrowded h*le and had no real competition, now the town has 3 nightclubs competing against each other and its 5€ into them all now and all have top entertainment. (Can't beat a bit of competition) but I want to know of towns that have a similar story and are in need of a new club or some competition.

YES! Kildare town definitly needs competition for it's nightclub Tiger Lillys, last time I went it cost me 14 euro just to get into the place because it's compulsory to put your jacket in the cloakroom, even if it's just a cardigan, which also means it's freezing in the smoking area. Also there are more pubs in the town than there are people!

evoke

OP Do you have any experience running a night club or working in a night club? Just wondering your experience and how fast you think you could establish a club up and running.

I pm you aswell incase you did not get this message.

gabbytheking

I'm not so sure if everyone in Nenagh hates Maximus. Most like that if you head there your sure to meet who your looking for. Most of us give out about it but kinda like it. An alternative would be good though! A little competition wouldn't go astray. There core competency and the reason the price doesn't bother people is that they get the poorer crowd by offering them free entry before 11 and get the working crowd(who pay in) because there the only place to go(also heavy drinkers will get in for free by going in the other entrance at any time). Also tbh they have a good policy of letting in young "h-t" girls and not young troublesome boys. Which keeps the older crowds of men coming all the time!!

I worked in Meka when it was open approx in 2003 and it was packed every Saturday night from approx February to September. Made money hand over fist, foam partys and the likes on Friday nights also brought in a small but profitable crowd. From what I remember we had to turn away people on Patricks Night with a crowd of 800 in house. Capacity was about 600. But it went down in the winter as people didn't want to walk or pay for a taxi/wait for a taxi to get there during the winter. Also Maximus re opened formerly easy street around may june but was deserted until the weather hit. They tried offering free taxi's which was terrible PR as the free taxi's got you there but you didn't get a taxi back into town at the end of the night.

The only competition in the area since Meka was when The Kenyon bar received a late licence until 1.30 or 2. That was doing relatively well until the owners of Maximus purchased it. When it was bought it was easily the most modern bar in the town, it now looks like another dive the bathroom is appalling. I looked at accounts for Ormond Hotel (Nenagh) Limited. Not much to see but worth a look on the CRO website costs a €5. I can't say anything without being liable but I suspect you could add alot to those figures follow the paper trail. Can't believe they named it so openly I would have called it something completely different myself.

One final word Everywhere in the country Des Bishop was 20 in Nenagh it was 25. Greed is the mother of all fk ups. I wish you the best and mail me if you have any queries or don't know the area too well!