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Housing estate used like a car park

  • 17-10-2010 8:30am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32


    Hi folks , can I got some advice
    The public housing estate where i live is used like a car park by people who work across the way in the industrial estate and who also park up to catch the bus from the bus stop.
    What is the law regarding this , can people just leave their cars out side of peoples houses all day? and if i want to stop them can I? some people put up bollards outside of their house is this legal?

    thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Public place
    Cars Taxed.
    I am afraid there is nothing you can do :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    The thread is prob in the wrong forum, however, what I suggest u do is if the estate is in charge (your local authority maintain roadway, footpaths, etc) then write to them explaining the problem & ask can they survey the estate for permit parking, whereby you need a disc to park or you pay as a visitor....you need at least two third majority from all your neighbours....

    Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Get onto your local council about it. It was a big problem in an estate my friend lives in and when enough people complained about it they put in double yellow lines and a warden now checks the estate to issue parking tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    If there is a serious safety issue then fair enough complain but if you've just got the hump due to cars being parked outside your house then you might want to reconsider.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    you have to ask yourself where you park when you are visiting premises... you would park wherever you could like these people. Im afraid you should just put up with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    The thread is prob in the wrong forum, however, what I suggest u do is if the estate is in charge (your local authority maintain roadway, footpaths, etc) then write to them explaining the problem & ask can they survey the estate for permit parking, whereby you need a disc to park or you pay as a visitor....you need at least two third majority from all your neighbours....

    Best of luck

    This is the only way I'm afraid. Permit parking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    gaytony wrote: »
    Hi folks , can I got some advice
    The public housing estate where i live is used like a car park by people who work across the way in the industrial estate and who also park up to catch the bus from the bus stop.
    What is the law regarding this , can people just leave their cars out side of peoples houses all day? and if i want to stop them can I? some people put up bollards outside of their house is this legal?

    thanks in advance

    Is it actually a safety issue or is it just a case of you don't like it? If its the latter i'd just say... Get over it! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 gaytony


    Thanks for the above replies and if i posted this in the wrong forum im sorry , it seems like the right place.
    The local council have already put double yellow lines on all the bends and on the speed bumps.
    is it legal for me put bollards outside of my own house to stop people parking there?
    Can I get an answer defined by law and not by peoples personal opinions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    gaytony wrote: »
    is it legal for me put bollards outside of my own house to stop people parking there?
    Can I get an answer defined by law and not by peoples personal opinions?

    Not unless you were to somehow purchase a portion of the public road for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭thewintermute


    gaytony wrote: »
    Thanks for the above replies and if i posted this in the wrong forum im sorry , it seems like the right place.
    The local council have already put double yellow lines on all the bends and on the speed bumps.
    is it legal for me put bollards outside of my own house to stop people parking there?
    Can I get an answer defined by law and not by peoples personal opinions?

    Unlikely to be legal, because then it's you who is interfering with traffic.Public place means just that. If they park across your driveway it's somewhat different.Permit parking, is your only solution here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    unless they are blocking access to your home then theres not a whole lot you can do.

    I would suggest a letter put onto the windscreens of every can stating that due to excessive parking in this area the residents may choose to implement permit park the area - your car could be clamped or towed and you could face fees of €80 (clamped) and €120 (towed) ... this could frighten some of the people into not parking there in future.

    it will take approx 12-18months (from when the council decide the area is suitable) for the council to survey the area, erect signage, yellow line the roads and even then they wont be around every day.

    putting bollards outside your house is done regularly - its illegal but not enforced, similarly about putting a sign up... without permission.

    put in simple terms - the council don't care unless its going to earn them money (permit parking, etc.)

    if you and other residents take the initiative and approach people who park there you might get a response from some of the more sensible drivers - you may get abuse from others...the only legal course of action is to ask the council for permit parking.

    At the moment I have an issue with one of my neighbours (a few doors down the street - he's recently moved in and ALL his furniture deliveries seem to park across my driveway (I said it in passing to one of the drivers yesterday and he went on about if I had ever had stuff delivered I'd understand that they had to park close to the delivery address as they were carrying a couch - I told them surely that they should have parked in the driveway of the actual delivery address or across the street from it....fuppin' idiots)

    OP .... the only legal way to do things takes time and will be an inconvienience to you in the future if/when these people disappear....there are illegal ways of getting rid of them but I'm not going to suggest them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Just get permit parking in. End of problem.

    The problem with people parking like this this, is they take up all the parking slots everyone using the estate uses normally. Vistors, deliveries etc. My experience is shoopers/commuters also have a tendency to park badly, causing other problems, like making it awkward to manoever or blocking access etc. A real PITA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,761 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    PCPhoto wrote: »

    I would suggest a letter put onto the windscreens of every can stating that due to excessive parking in this area the residents may choose to implement permit park the area - your car could be clamped or towed and you could face fees of €80 (clamped) and €120 (towed) ... this could frighten some of the people into not parking there in future.

    This would be illegal :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    This would be illegal :D
    Distributing a letter is not illegal;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Basil Fawlty


    Its a public road. If the cars taxed it can be parked there. If you do force the council to put in permit parking that would also include pay and display. That would result in people paying to park infront of your house. Meaning that the end result wpuld be the same. With the exception of all your neighbours or visitors getting fines for parking outside their own house.

    I really cant see what difference a car parked on the road outside your house could make to your day. You dont own the road. Live and let live. If they are not blocking your entrance just let it go. People have enough on their plates these days without having to worry about parking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Put up a sign asking people not to park there if you think it's a safety concern.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Its a public road. If the cars taxed it can be parked there. If you do force the council to put in permit parking that would also include pay and display. That would result in people paying to park infront of your house. Meaning that the end result wpuld be the same. With the exception of all your neighbours or visitors getting fines for parking outside their own house.

    I really cant see what difference a car parked on the road outside your house could make to your day. You dont own the road. Live and let live. If they are not blocking your entrance just let it go. People have enough on their plates these days without having to worry about parking.


    You do realize that residents get permits?

    People will not pay and display all day. So they'll find somewhere else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    put cones or double yellow lines outside your house, and let your neighbours be concerned for themselves, worst case you can move , free parking is rare especially around south dublin , I park every day in a housing estate here and every day people park on my road to go to work (i live near a train station) , do you have a problem with it because people are taking your parking space and causing a problem for you or just because they're parked there , do you have a driveway ?


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