Will 900 Quadrant Shower fit any 900 Tray???

changes

Hi

If i go ahead and buy a 900 x 900 quadrant shower tray can it be assumed that any 900 x 900 quadrant shower enclosure will fit it properly.

The tiler wants shower trays put in before he tiles but i don't want to have to buy shower enclosures yet.

gsxr1

it will be fine.

the shower doors should have profiles on the edges with slide within each other and make the doors adjustable upto nearly an inch.

The tiler is correct. He is going to tile into the new tray and seal it correctly. If you have an older set of 900 door they should fit perfectly again when he is done.

Joey the lips

It will not be fine. The tiler is most def right.... Most quadrants only come with a 20mm adjustment. Buy the tray take a measurement then let me know if the adjustment is more than 20mm and i will help you sort it

byte

Is it proper to fit the enclosure first, then tile it?

That's the way mine is done, though I can't help but wonder if the vibration/movement of the enclosure will eventually cause the edge tiles to come away.

Davy

byte wrote: »

Is it proper to fit the enclosure first, then tile it?

That's the way mine is done, though I can't help but wonder if the vibration/movement of the enclosure will eventually cause the edge tiles to come away.

Fit the tray >> then tile >> then the door.

changes

Thanks for replies guys.

Yeah the tray will be going in before the tiling is done then i will be leaving the bathroom for about 6 months and will go looking for an enclosure then so as gsxr1 says i should be able to fit it to my tray.

i was worried that they may have to be bought in sets and that i could not put a different brand tray and enclosure together

Joey the lips

changes wrote: »

Thanks for replies guys.

Yeah the tray will be going in before the tiling is done then i will be leaving the bathroom for about 6 months and will go looking for an enclosure then so as gsxr1 says i should be able to fit it to my tray.

i was worried that they may have to be bought in sets and that i could not put a different brand tray and enclosure together

No. You will have to take a measurement once the tray is fitted and the tiling is done. Some doors only have a 20mm adjustment(either the cheap ones or the very expensive frameless ones) and some have more.

Once the tray is fitted. Then tile then take a measurment.

Imagine its the face of a clock with the centre being the corner of the tray and 3 and 6 being the 2 outside edges. You measure from 3 to the centre then from 6 to the centre

A typical set of measurements might be

From 3 to centre = 885mm

From 6 to centre = 880mm

So the adjustment would be 880 - 900

But this all depends on the tile thickness.... Floor tiles put on the wall can throw this out...Eg Porcelaine

gsxr1

believe me. you will be grand.

The whole estate i finished had quads. out of 100 odd appartments only 3 doors had to be sent back.

Been there done that.

Sparkpea

most should be ok, unless the walls are running way and the tiles have to be built way out sometimes this can throw the enclosure off if theres not much adjustment in the profiles. 9 times out of 10 theres no problems.

Joey the lips

Sparkpea wrote: »

most should be ok, unless the walls are running way and the tiles have to be built way out sometimes this can throw the enclosure off if theres not much adjustment in the profiles. 9 times out of 10 theres no problems.

Its actually the thickness of the tiles that throw the walls out tbh.

Marble or porc expecially if its wall/Floor tiles tend to be thicker than standard ceramic tiles.

Anyway the op gets the message it does not matter who is right once i am

Its best practice not to buy the door till a measurement is taken,

Sparkpea

have to disagree tbh in the last 5 years ive not had a door not fit, I wont fit a door to a tray ive not fitted that way I know its not tracked into a wall and its sitting square in the corner, no matter what tile is used there should be enough adjustment on the doors to cover it ok. yes quadrants are a bit more complicated and have less adjustment sometimes but overall it shouldnt matter if a door is ordered with the tray its how the majority of people do it, most dont want to wait to order a door once its tiled and have to wait for it to come in stock which is normally the case these days.

changes

Thanks again lads. The walls and plastering are a nice straight job and i'm using fairly standard ceramic tiles. I will take the measurements with me though before i purchase the enclosure to be on the safe side.

Joey the lips

Sparkpea wrote: »

have to disagree tbh in the last 5 years ive not had a door not fit, I wont fit a door to a tray ive not fitted that way I know its not tracked into a wall and its sitting square in the corner, no matter what tile is used there should be enough adjustment on the doors to cover it ok. yes quadrants are a bit more complicated and have less adjustment sometimes but overall it shouldnt matter if a door is ordered with the tray its how the majority of people do it, most dont want to wait to order a door once its tiled and have to wait for it to come in stock which is normally the case these days.

You can disagree all you want...your notion is still incorrect. But when you realise that most plumbing shops will not take back doors now or the adjustment in there range is limited... at an adverage price of 300 - 400 euro a disagreement with manufacturers instructions and simple logic seems stuborn.

But like i say... I am not here to dictate but just advise....

For the record.... I have had many returned especially with marble which is being sold in bulk at the moment.... I told them the same as i told you


Funny enough... I have never had a days trouble when fitting

gsxr1

Just being awkward here. But hey. It makes good reading.

Most marble (If it is indeed marble and not a regular wall tile) is 1/2 inch, with 1/8 of adhesive . On a straight plum wall a shower 900 shower door will still be well in range to fit.

If not , whats the next door down. 800 with extension profiles?


I still do belive there will be no problem. In fact the only time I seen Joeys senario arise is when the walls around the shower had 19mm ply installed and tanked with the tray in already. With the tile on top the shower door did not fit and a smaller door was used with extensions(making the door opening for the shower small as well).

I guess the safe bet is to measure after. But im still right just like Joey our mod

Joey the lips

gsxr1 wrote: »

Just being awkward here. But hey. It makes good reading.

Most marble (If it is indeed marble and not a regular wall tile) is 1/2 inch, with 1/8 of adhesive .

Thats a total of 15mm there. Getting close to that 20mmm. Shower doors dont come with extension profiles any more. Image stopped making them and KMT know longer import them. They are terriable on a quadrant I would bet that either does that monaghan based shower door croud I cannot think off.

But as we say. The op gets the point and at this stage we all have our spoke in

To all reading in on this its worth bearing in mind there is more problems can occur. Especially with the Radius on an 800 door. A lot of dublin apts had 800 fitted. But then again we are taking 900 here so the measurement will suffice after the tray is fitted.

Sparkpea

dont use image then

lakes and twyfords all the way!

Joey the lips

Sparkpea wrote: »

dont use image then

lakes and twyfords all the way!

Well done... Now you have just limited the op to 2 brands of door thats priced higher than the norm....

Like i said at the beginning. If the op fits the tray and takes a measurement then he will have a wider choice of doors Or narrow if the dimensions are limited....

cinders and buttons

Hi
looking for advice on 800mm quadrant tray have just read above do we tile the incloser first?
then put tray in having trouble getting one as we have the shower doors can't change now one B.P. said Selecta has gone, I would have liked to have got same name brand for tray, tray waste is right hand side
so as I said looking for advice on this

dodzy

cinders and buttons wrote: »

Hi
looking for advice on 800mm quadrant tray have just read above do we tile the incloser first?
then put tray in having trouble getting one as we have the shower doors can't change now one B.P. said Selecta has gone, I would have liked to have got same name brand for tray, tray waste is right hand side
so as I said looking for advice on this

See post #5 further up ^^^^^^