Anglo Bondholders List Leaked

Sizzler

€4 billion worth of bondholders that the govt are planning to repay...WHY?

German, Swiss, French financial houses a plenty.

http://order-order.com/2010/10/15/anglo-irish-bondholders-should-take-the-lossesis-the-ecb-forcing-ireland-to-protect-german-investments/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+guidofawkes+%28Guy+Fawkes%27+blog+of+parliamentary+plots%2C+rumours+and+conspiracy%29&utm_content=Twitter

rumour

Get ready to be castigated immediately.....thats just speculation, no way European banks could possibly force the Irish people to pay them back. No No NO.... the Irish people are going to do the correct thing and pay these guys back, we will do this by political consensus in advance of an election.
You see it's the democratic will of the people, simply no question of being forced. Move along no story here.!!!!!

K-9

Sizzler wrote: »

€4 billion worth of bondholders that the govt are planning to repay...WHY?

German, Swiss, French financial houses a plenty.

http://order-order.com/2010/10/15/anglo-irish-bondholders-should-take-the-lossesis-the-ecb-forcing-ireland-to-protect-german-investments/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+guidofawkes+%28Guy+Fawkes%27+blog+of+parliamentary+plots%2C+rumours+and+conspiracy%29&utm_content=Twitter

That is €4 Billion out of about €81 Billion, plus they are trying to do a deal on some of it. If only it was as simple as soundbites!

Markets News Thursday: Wall Street Journal says group of Anglo Irish Bank bondholders fiercely resisting 'haircut' on debt; USD/EUR rate close to $1.41


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ah ffs

Guido has obtained the list of foreign Anglo-Irish bondholders as at the close of business tonight. These are the people whom Dublin’s politicians really seem to care about

The people the Dublin politicians care about are the IRISH bondholders whose names havent been released yet!!!!!!!!!!

Mister men

Where are the Irish bond holders? We want these names

Ulysses Gaze

Hmm Goldman Sachs. And we have Peter Sutherland telling us how we need Austerity measures and need to cut the number of Universities...

Absolutely no conflict of Interest there. Whatsoever.

Also Rothschild has been advising the Government on fiscal policy.

No wonder St Lenihan doesn't want to burn the foreign bondholders!

murphaph

I presume it's these same bond holders that we are now going begging to to keep us afloat with our 20bn annual defecit?

Laminations

This swindle has been apparent for months and mentioned on previous threads

Laminations wrote: »

So what you're saying is that we are the real heroes of Europe? I mean Germany is getting the praise for bailing out Greece but in actuality the irish tax payer is bailing out private businesses and national banks on a pan European scale! All this selflessness and we still find the money to contribute to the Greek bailout, we're some country. Oh where are we getting all this money? Well we're borrowing it from similar sources to the bond holders we are paying back. Private debt, regardless on whose it was, should never have been nationalised onto the Irish tax payer. If Germanys banks invested in Anglo, they did so to make a quick buck. They took a risk and they lost (this risk was always greater than investing in Ireland through sovereign lending. Anglo shouldve gone to the wall and if the german banks were systemic to Germany they let them prop their own banks up.

But it's nice to see a list of names, now if we can get our hands on the homegrown bondholders names we'll get to see the real belly of this scandal. We need transparency in all of this. Lenihan should be called to a press conference to explain why these bondholders have had their ridky investments guaranteed

ei.sdraob

K-9 wrote: »

That is €4 Billion out of about €81 Billion, plus they are trying to do a deal on some of it. If only it was as simple as soundbites!

4 billion is how much we need to cut in this budget, every little helps

they made a bad investment and they lost, tough luck that's capitalism for ya

Mister men wrote: »

Where are the Irish bond holders? We want these names

The Irish credit unions and pension funds claimed before they are not the bondholders.

yet another lie from our government

macannrb

Thats about 80 names. So to be about 50m on average is owed to each if the bonds are valued at 100%.

To be fair, a 50m loss to these guys is very little in terms of their balance sheets. Many of them will have sold these onto investors (given the asset managers names beside many) as bundled packages so those investors wont be hurt that much at all.

thebman

Its only the foreign ones, there are other Irish bondholders too.

xavidub

thebman wrote: »

Its only the foreign ones, there are other Irish bondholders too.

Indeed. Sure how else would you fill a tent at the Galway races.

saywhatyousee

why is it every time something doggy goes on
goldman sachs is always on the list
that bank should be closed down
and goldman schs where also advisers on the governments bank bail out!!!

SEPT 23 1989

No mention of this in the Irish mainstream media WHY?