registration fees refund?

dynamot · 13-10-2010 4:57pm #1

I have just withdrawn from my course in UCD. Am i entitled to a refund for the registration fees that i paid in September?

Thanks in advance

Agent Smith · 13-10-2010 4:58pm

nope

parker kent · 13-10-2010 6:03pm

Check out this page.

http://www.ucd.ie/registry/adminservices/fees/refunds.htm

Students who officially withdraw (see point 2 above) from 2 October 2010 to 28 January in 2011 inclusive are liable for payment of the Student Services fee and the Student Centre levy i.e. €1,654.00. FURTHER, half the tuition fee will be claimed on the student’s behalf from the HEA. A student will be liable to pay half the tuition fee for the equivalent duration of attendance if s/he registers within the next 5 years in any Irish third level institution.

13-10-2010 6:04pm

Just wondering do you also realise you're liable for full fees next year as far as I know..

dynamot · 13-10-2010 6:31pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Just wondering do you also realise you're liable for full fees next year as far as I know..

no, i didn't know that, are you sure?

TheVoodoo · 13-10-2010 6:33pm

Yea, it'll be at least half fees, anyway. You only have until the end of September to withdraw and no be liable for fees the following year.

parker kent · 13-10-2010 6:41pm

dynamot wrote: »

no, i didn't know that, are you sure?

It says so in the quote I gave above from the Fees website! The HEA do not pay for you to repeat any stage in your education. You have had Year 1, semester 1 paid for already so any future semester ones will have to come from your pocket.

Fluorescence · 13-10-2010 6:48pm

Nope, you don't get a refund, and will have to pay the full tuition fees for semester 1 next year if you go to a different college (which will probably be about €2500 depending on the course, plus whatever the registration fee is for that college).

dynamot · 13-10-2010 6:53pm

parker kent wrote: »

It says so in the quote I gave above from the Fees website! The HEA do not pay for you to repeat any stage in your education. You have had Year 1, semester 1 paid for already so any future semester ones will have to come from your pocket.

So do you know how much that would be per year?

I find it ridiculous that you only have until the end of September to decide, having barely completed two weeks of your course.

Fluorescence · 13-10-2010 6:56pm

Well that's why you're supposed to do lots of research about your course before flinging it down onto the CAO form. I'm also surprised no one told you you'd be liable for full fees when you were withdrawing from your course.

parker kent · 13-10-2010 6:58pm

It depends on what course you are doing. Check out the current rates for full fees here. Divide that in 2 and you have the amount you would pay.

http://www.ucd.ie/registry/adminservices/fees/undergraduate.htm

ironclaw · 14-10-2010 1:15pm

A mate of mine pulled out of Arts. Basically he said that since he pulled out of first year, he's not entitiled to a first year again. So he pays his next "1st year" and then the rest of degree will be paid for. Kinda like you have 4 box's (aka years) to fill in. Whatever you fill in your not entitled to again. Makes sense or you could spend 5 free fee years searching for a course you like, then do it. So the tax payer could end up spending 10 years of free fee's on one student.

Also, it looks like reg fee's could be €3000 next year. Can you not transfer to a course you'd prefer? Withdrawing is serious for time and money.

dynamot · 14-10-2010 4:54pm

ironclaw wrote: »

A mate of mine pulled out of Arts. Basically he said that since he pulled out of first year, he's not entitiled to a first year again. So he pays his next "1st year" and then the rest of degree will be paid for. Kinda like you have 4 box's (aka years) to fill in. Whatever you fill in your not entitled to again. Makes sense or you could spend 5 free fee years searching for a course you like, then do it. So the tax payer could end up spending 10 years of free fee's on one student.

Also, it looks like reg fee's could be €3000 next year. Can you not transfer to a course you'd prefer? Withdrawing is serious for time and money.

no, unfortunately i cant. I want to do medecine but first have to do the HPAT in feb 2011

Healium · 15-10-2010 12:14am

I'm dropping out tomorrow. Pain, isn't it? Gonna possibly lose my accomodation money, too

kev9100 · 15-10-2010 10:42am

Why are you guys dropping out? Its so difficult to get in to college and I don't see why anyone would leave so early.

GobBass · 15-10-2010 11:06pm

ironclaw wrote: »

A mate of mine pulled out of Arts. Basically he said that since he pulled out of first year, he's not entitiled to a first year again. So he pays his next "1st year" and then the rest of degree will be paid for. Kinda like you have 4 box's (aka years) to fill in. Whatever you fill in your not entitled to again. Makes sense or you could spend 5 free fee years searching for a course you like, then do it. So the tax payer could end up spending 10 years of free fee's on one student.

Also, it looks like reg fee's could be €3000 next year. Can you not transfer to a course you'd prefer? Withdrawing is serious for time and money.

I was wondering myself about the latter part.Although I'm in my final year and likely be back for a MA next year,is that €3000 reg fee factual or just fear mongering? I've seen the figure in several places around UCD with very little substance backing it up. Just wondering what the source is for information sake.:D

craggles · 15-10-2010 11:36pm

dynamot wrote: »

medecine

You'll go very far won't you!

TheVoodoo · 15-10-2010 11:42pm

GobBass wrote: »

I was wondering myself about the latter part.Although I'm in my final year and likely be back for a MA next year,is that €3000 reg fee factual or just fear mongering? I've seen the figure in several places around UCD with very little substance backing it up. Just wondering what the source is for information sake.:D

Have heard that myself, but haven't actually seen anything on paper etc.
Can only presume if it's going to happen it'll be announced post-budget in December.

Although a jump of 1400e (roughly) would be quite steep, but a sly-ish way of covering the free-fee side of things.

parker kent · 16-10-2010 2:22pm

Different college newspapers have printed the €3000 reg fee rumour, they claim a source in the Dept. of Education says they are considering it.

ironclaw · 17-10-2010 3:04pm

GobBass wrote: »

I was wondering myself about the latter part.Although I'm in my final year and likely be back for a MA next year,is that €3000 reg fee factual or just fear mongering? I've seen the figure in several places around UCD with very little substance backing it up. Just wondering what the source is for information sake.:D

Would you not be liable for full fee's as you'd be outside your 4 years "free fee's" regardless? Personally I'd say it will increment to €2000. €3000 would cripple alot of people, especially in todays climate.

parker kent · 17-10-2010 10:13pm

ironclaw wrote: »

Would you not be liable for full fee's as you'd be outside your 4 years "free fee's" regardless? Personally I'd say it will increment to €2000. €3000 would cripple alot of people, especially in todays climate.

The poster would be doing an MA so free fees would not apply at all. The reg fee would be part of their overall course fees, so any increase in the reg fee might have an impact on postgrad fees.

TimeToShine · 19-10-2010 10:14pm

dynamot wrote: »

no, unfortunately i cant. I want to do medecine but first have to do the HPAT in feb 2011

For a start it helps to spell your chosen profession properly

Personally, If I were to be charged 1500 quid I'd honestly just go to college for the year, at least you'll learn something and actually feel like you might get something out of it. The only reason I'd drop out is if I had a proper job for the year, also you should try and sneak into a few Medicine/Radiography/Physiotherapy lectures and see what you're in for next year, that's ridiculous charging you the full fees for 4 weeks in there, but get your moneys worth as much as you can.

parker kent · 20-10-2010 8:42am

TimeToShine wrote: »

For a start it helps to spell your chosen profession properly

Personally, If I were to be charged 1500 quid I'd honestly just go to college for the year, at least you'll learn something and actually feel like you might get something out of it. The only reason I'd drop out is if I had a proper job for the year, also you should try and sneak into a few Medicine/Radiography/Physiotherapy lectures and see what you're in for next year, that's ridiculous charging you the full fees for 4 weeks in there, but get your moneys worth as much as you can.

If he drops out now instead of finishing the year, he'll only pay half the fees next year. Starting semester 2 would mean paying full fees next year.

VeronicaMoon · 22-11-2010 9:21pm

fluorescence wrote: »

Nope, you don't get a refund, and will have to pay the full tuition fees for semester 1 next year if you go to a different college (which will probably be about €2500 depending on the course, plus whatever the registration fee is for that college).

Hey Last november i dropped out of 1st year and my tutor told me i would have to pay half full fees when returning back to 1st year. Do you know if i have to pay the entrance fee of 1500 with that?? also im planning on going to itb and it says honour degrees cost 2,319 per annum so does that mean i only have to pay half of that????

Fluorescence · 22-11-2010 9:25pm

If you dropped out before semester 2 started then you'll only have to pay full fees for the first half of the year. I assume you pay the full reg fee as normal (that's completely unrelated to tuition fees).

VeronicaMoon · 22-11-2010 9:28pm

fluorescence wrote: »

If you dropped out before semester 2 started then you'll only have to pay full fees for the first half of the year. I assume you pay the full reg fee as normal (that's completely unrelated to tuition fees).

do you have to pay it straight away or can you wait until your second or fourth year to pay it?

Fluorescence · 22-11-2010 9:34pm

Um, you have to pay that every year. €1500 a year is the registration fee... You can split it into 2 payments (1 in September and one in January) AFAIK, but you pay it every single year. It's not a once off fee...

dyl10 · 22-11-2010 9:50pm

dynamot wrote: »

no, unfortunately i cant. I want to do medecine but first have to do the HPAT in feb 2011

That will be expensive for you, I imagine.

kev9100 wrote: »

Why are you guys dropping out? Its so difficult to get in to college and I don't see why anyone would leave so early.

If you are not going to stick with it, leave ASAP.

parker kent · 22-11-2010 10:04pm

fluorescence wrote: »

If you dropped out before semester 2 started then you'll only have to pay full fees for the first half of the year. I assume you pay the full reg fee as normal (that's completely unrelated to tuition fees).

The reg fee is part of the fees. So it will not be paid on top of the fees. When you hear that the fees for a course are €X, that amount includes the reg fee.

VeronicaMoon · 22-11-2010 10:28pm

parker kent wrote: »

The reg fee is part of the fees. So it will not be paid on top of the fees. When you hear that the fees for a course are €X, that amount includes the reg fee.

are fees in IT's generally cheaper than universities? because i thought i would be paying way more than (half of) 2,319 :S

22-11-2010 10:37pm

parker kent wrote: »

The reg fee is part of the fees. So it will not be paid on top of the fees. When you hear that the fees for a course are €X, that amount includes the reg fee.

You sure? Cause when I registered for UCD they messed up my application at the start and were charging me 4k fee's PLUS the 1,650 reg fee.

parker kent · 23-11-2010 12:53pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

You sure? Cause when I registered for UCD they messed up my application at the start and were charging me 4k fee's PLUS the 1,650 reg fee.

I'm positive. The page on SIS that says that gives you the breakdown on what full fees are. Same way that they would have separated the student centre levy. If you check the fees list here, you'll see that the amount given is the total amount including registration fee. I'm presuming that you would be doing one of the courses that would cost 5,780 if you had to pay full fees.

1. The fees shown are inclusive of a student services charge of €1,500 (covering registration, examinations and other student services) and a Student Centre Levy of €154.00.
2. Students who qualify under the 'free' fees initiative pay only €1,654.00. (Click here for information about free tuition)
3. Unless otherwise indicated all fees listed cover one academic year.

http://www.ucd.ie/registry/adminservices/fees/undergraduate.htm

parker kent · 23-11-2010 1:02pm

VeronicaMoon wrote: »

are fees in IT's generally cheaper than universities? because i thought i would be paying way more than (half of) 2,319 :S

They probably are but I have never dealt with an IT so I am only guessing! This page gives the list of fees for courses in UCD. I'm giving the link for undergrad courses but you can can follow the links to find the cost of any course on UCD. The FAQs and other stuff there should be of help to you too.

http://www.ucd.ie/registry/adminservices/fees/undergraduate.htm

Edit: Not sure why I wrote all that as I just realised you said you were moving to an IT! Anyway I'm sure it might be interesting for somebody

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