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SGU 2x03 "Awakening" *Spoilers*

  • 12-10-2010 4:57pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭


    Poll added :p

    Aftermath - your thoughts? 53 votes

    Woo!!
    0% 0 votes
    Boo!
    64% 34 votes
    Meh!
    13% 7 votes
    Eh?...SG-1 was better
    22% 12 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Why do people do this before its even aired yet?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Its aired in the states tonight and someone people live there or do something illegal :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭GarethWA


    It's unfair to have a poll option as 'SG1 was better', as I'm gonna have to click that one regardless of how good sgu is this week.
    ...I just can't see how anyone can ignore that as an option!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Cook my sock


    Its aired in the states tonight and someone people live there or do something illegal :p
    is there anywhere i can watch it as its being aired like some sort of streaming site? or am i gonna have to wait till 5 or 6 again this week?

    scrap this, got it, just watched it there, good episode but left me wanting more! oh well, next week i guess!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    great episode. Love Rush. Crazy baxtard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    GarethWA wrote: »
    It's unfair to have a poll option as 'SG1 was better', as I'm gonna have to click that one regardless of how good sgu is this week.
    ...I just can't see how anyone can ignore that as an option!

    I don't know, latest episode was brilliant [obligatory still not as good as SG-1 though comment]

    Can't believe they left the Indian behind but since we didn't see him die I'm guessing he'll show up again at some stage. I thought maybe they'd get some more shuttles this episode as well since they've none left but obviously not. Still no big deal over miraculous healing girls miraculous healing even though she told the fricking doctor about it.

    Is it my imagination or has token black guy's role really been reduced so far this season, he barely has any screen time which is a shame as I thought his character had improved a lot since the pilot episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Redisle


    Feck sake, Rush really really needs to let people know what he's up to. Pure insanity acting how he is. Then again we all knew the earth dialing attempt would fail.. success would mean the show would no longer have a reason to exist..

    Good episode overall, pity they had to leave the seed ship behind so soon.Then again I guess if the seed ship is stranded Rush could probably go back to it.. as soon as he reveals his control anyhow. Those aliens may not be all that hostile though, they only used stun guns after all and didn't appear to be trying to harm Telford at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Urgh, another meh episode. Seems like this season is going to stick to the whole format of 1 good paced episode with lots of developments for every 3/4 filler episodes, this was def filler. Cant even say leaving Telford stranded was a development cause its clear as day he will be back (along with some friendly alien buddies). Found nothing of interest from the seed ship although its clear that the next episodes starting point will be "Oh we found this in the data transmission". One thing I usually like are to montages at the end (I'm a sucker like that) but this one felt dull and unemotional kinda like a roll call and summery of "and this is what is happening with person a, person b and person c"....yeah ... we know, we've been actually watching the show. :rolleyes:

    I agree with an earlier post alright more of Greer would be much welcome, he's class. Manages some really funny lines and can still hold some intense moments too. Liked the idea of Young and Telford working together , seems like that could be a good writing mechanic.

    This by the numbers writing WILL be sgu's undoing and by this rate I predict the next episode that will get a majority 90%or higher poll here will be in 3 episodes time.....wait and see.

    If the writers dont pick up the pace this show will not make it past season 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    Good episode and i'd imagine we'll see the mexican again alright. Would have liked to see a bit more work done on the other story lines such as Chloe's magic leg. Also i guess they're putting the prisoner story line ticking over for another episode or two until they will need them. I can see one or two more main characters getting a bad case of dead as the prisoners are developed into the show.

    Music was Sort of Revolution by Fink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 vinny_963


    yea i completely agree the episode was complete filler, really needs to liven things up to keep me watching


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭TheManWho


    Genius renegade scientist taking advice from a hallucination of his ex... Hmm... in what other space based sci-fi show have I seen this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I liked it a lot. Got suckered in to the suspense while they searched the seeder ship and even found myself wondering if they were going to get stranded there. And for a moment it looked like Rush would have surely had to reveal he has control of the Ship. How are these people this daft? Put 2 and 2 together please.

    Started to really like Telford and now he's gone. Sure to see him later down the road. It looks like those Aliens were in Stasis. Strange though. Would they have gone in stasis because they didnt have the power to jump? But then how did they have the power to Augment the Gate. Or did they know full well what they were up to, springing a trap for Destiny, hoping to Strand it.

    I agree you can't give them the ability to Dial Earth. It's basically what killed Atlantis, and everytime they walked into that mistake (ZPMs, "Space Bridges") They quickly wrote a way to un-do it.

    A more interesting question is begot by more answers: The Seeder ships have life support, and controls. Does each have a Gate room? Can Destiny Gate to the Seeder Ships?

    More of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    only one i can think of is farscape, but i wouldnt call scorpius krytons ex!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Not seen it yet...watch it tonight, ratings:

    Stargate Universe (9pm)
    - 1.222 million viewers
    - 0.8/1 HH
    - 0.5/1 A18-49


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    madrab wrote: »
    only one i can think of is farscape, but i wouldnt call scorpius krytons ex!

    It happened in that rubbishy Battlestar Galactica remake with Gaius Balthar talking to the Lady in Red Cylon.
    Peace wrote: »
    Good episode and i'd imagine we'll see the mexican again alright..

    Is he a Red Indian (Native American) or a Mexican? Have I been calling him by the wrong name all along :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    How about just calling him a good actor? Racists :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,843 ✭✭✭GSPfan


    I'm well happy with SGU at the moment. I'm delighted every week to watch an episode. Its kinda funny how excited I was for Caprica and barely cared about SGU but here I am feeling the total reverse since both shows started.

    Rush is starting to wreck my head with his secrets but SGU has a way of explaining weird behaviour extremely well. In fairness to Rush, he has shown proper leadership material up to now with his decisions. He always seems to have the balls to make the right decision.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Watched it yesterday, thought it was pretty decent but in all honesty how have they not figured out about the Bridge and where Rush keeps disappearing off to!

    The alien(s) seem benevolent enough, but will be interesting to learn more about them.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Very good episode. Quite how anyone can consider an episode 'filler' - a pet hate term of mine incidentally - when it advances several plots along, is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Overheal wrote: »
    A more interesting question is begot by more answers: The Seeder ships have life support, and controls. Does each have a Gate room? Can Destiny Gate to the Seeder Ships?
    I'd say your right there and they could gate back to the ship in a future episode. It seems as logical to have a gate room on that ship as on Destiny and if it was never meant to have a crew on board then why the control room and life support? If nothing else the ancients would have wanted a way to send repair crews on board.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    so they found 12 pods.. so they can assume more than likely less than 50 aliens

    how many people with guns do they have on destiny? how many lucian alliance prisoners with fists and something to prove? how muchdo they need that ****ing power?

    jesus christ

    go onto the seed ship with a ****load of guns and hunt the aliens down

    send the kinos through the walls to look for them, scan for lifesigns , use the ****ing robot they found in season 1. do something other than run back to destiny.

    mother of god


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Overheal wrote: »
    How about just calling him a good actor? Racists :pac:

    I don't know his name so I'm simply calling him by his defining feature :o

    In fact, the only names I do know are Rush and Eli, everyone else gets a nickname.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    speaking of nicknames, where the **** is lt boobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Overheal wrote: »
    How about just calling him a good actor? Racists :pac:

    I find that using his name works just find; Telford. For the confused, Lou Diamond Phillips is American, but his mother is Filipino.
    Very good episode. Quite how anyone can consider an episode 'filler' - a pet hate term of mine incidentally - when it advances several plots along, is beyond me.

    Indeed. Anything that doesn't have a big explosion tends to get called filler these days. Go back to the early days of SG1, and you'd find that about three quarters of episodes could be described as filler. It's only in the last few years that I've noticed people get increasingly frustrated with any episode of any show that doesn't concentrate on the main story line. SG1 used to be filled with side-story episodes, many of which were the best episodes in it.
    so they found 12 pods.. so they can assume more than likely less than 50 aliens

    send the kinos through the walls to look for them, scan for lifesigns , use the ****ing robot they found in season 1. do something other than run back to destiny.

    The pods even looked quite small, single occupancy style, so they could have easily assumed there were only 12 aliens. Luckily enough they didn't decide to stay and fight though, as Rush would have disconnected and left anyway. I guess this is the reason the writers did it this way.

    How long till Young gets Eli to use a Kino to follow Rush to his new hidey-hole? He's obviously suspicious of something, and rightly so. Chloe's magic leg barely raises an eyebrow. A little surprising, but I was glad of not having an episode about her. What is Rush's wife? An ascended being, the ship, Dr. Franklin, or just a manifestation of Rush's psychosis?

    Good episode again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    speaking of nicknames, where the **** is lt boobs?

    I haven't seen her in any episodes this season and I am very disappointed. We got a nice shot of Chloe's legs but c'mon, giz us Lt. Boobs back!

    I thought this was a very good episode and best this season. It had nice pacing and suspense and I am all for introducing aliens! Perhaps these guys are at war with the blue dudes in last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Very good episode. Quite how anyone can consider an episode 'filler' - a pet hate term of mine incidentally - when it advances several plots along, is beyond me.


    Its filler because yes it advances a few SIDE plots but only at a snails pace. Not the main plot but the freakin SIDE plots!

    What more did we find out about Youngs mindset... that he was run down and hitting the booze... knew that already from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Chloes healing... that its healed and she doesnt know why?... knew that too from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Rushs discovery of the bridge... that he is willing to put people in harms way to protect the fact he found it?... we also knew that from the last EP too, in fact it indirectly killed someone there.

    So yes it is filler if A. it doesnt advance the main plot in any meaningful way other than predictable endings (Telford being laft behind, I mean come on that was done already only a half season back and we know how that tune goes) and B. doesnt advance the side plots in any meaningful way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Peace


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Its filler because yes it advances a few SIDE plots but only at a snails pace. Not the main plot but the freakin SIDE plots!

    What more did we find out about Youngs mindset... that he was run down and hitting the booze... knew that already from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Chloes healing... that its healed and she doesnt know why?... knew that too from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Rushs discovery of the bridge... that he is willing to put people in harms way to protect the fact he found it?... we also knew that from the last EP too, in fact it indirectly killed someone there.

    So yes it is filler if A. it doesnt advance the main plot in any meaningful way other than predictable endings (Telford being laft behind, I mean come on that was done already only a half season back and we know how that tune goes) and B. doesnt advance the side plots in any meaningful way.

    So you don't see boarding a differnt ancient ship meeting a new alien race and abandoning one of the main characters as advancing the plot?

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Its filler because yes it advances a few SIDE plots but only at a snails pace. Not the main plot but the freakin SIDE plots!

    What more did we find out about Youngs mindset... that he was run down and hitting the booze... knew that already from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Chloes healing... that its healed and she doesnt know why?... knew that too from the last EP.

    What more did we find out about Rushs discovery of the bridge... that he is willing to put people in harms way to protect the fact he found it?... we also knew that from the last EP too, in fact it indirectly killed someone there.

    So yes it is filler if A. it doesnt advance the main plot in any meaningful way other than predictable endings (Telford being laft behind, I mean come on that was done already only a half season back and we know how that tune goes) and B. doesnt advance the side plots in any meaningful way.
    That seems to have missed some big developments to be honest. Now, admittedly, if we never see Telford or the aliens, or the seeder ship again, it was just filler (Telford hadn't really been a big enough member of the crew for his loss to be much above that of a redshirt), but I seriously doubt we have seen the last of them. In the grand scheme of things, this is the episode that introduces a new alien race that is likely to play a major role in how things turn out, especially if the show ends up having a short run...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Peace wrote: »
    So you don't see boarding a differnt ancient ship meeting a new alien race and abandoning one of the main characters as advancing the plot?

    lol

    Not really, no.
    Lets break it down...

    "Boarding an ancient ship" - The whole show is set on an ancient ship so nothing new there. What did they do of any signifigance on the ship? ... Looked at a gate building room? What did they get from the ancient ship... an undetermined data stream which we heard none of the info actually gotten in the whole episode. So what did they get from being there.. unknown, what did being on the seeder ship add to the plot of SGU... nothing. Put it this way... if destiny had stopped at a planet and the team went down and met the aliens there and uploaded a data stream what difference would that make to the plot of SGU??? Nothing. The only reason they met with a seeder ship was as a plot device for this ep only simply because they needed destiny to be docked with something : a ship , in order to have it in peril , it would make no sense for destiny to auto dock with a non ancient ship so it had to be an ancient ship in the end.

    "Meeting an alien race" - Its a sci fi show, this is meant to be a given. What did the race bring to the table... nothing. What did we find out from them... nothing. Why were they there... we have no idea. So we dont know their name, intentions on the seeder ship, intentions in regards to destiny or place in the SGU universe.. nothing.

    "Abandoning one of the main characters" - as was said already he has been on destiny a wet week and the loss of telford was nothing major. In fact his loss isnt even a loss considering how obvious it is we will see him again. When Rush was left on the planet we had no idea if we would see him again or get back seeing as it was the first season and had no idea if they were willing to remove a big name from the show so soon. We also had no clue how he would get back seeing as the blue aliens had not been tied into that ep at all. Now we know all that and have seen the formula before whats so revolutionary about doing it again? Nothing.


    Now IF they had found out more about destinys mission / secrets of the gate seeding, found out more about their current position / other races and their view of destiny from the aliens AND had Telford die THAT would have made that EP riviting as it would have reaching and impactful conciquences to both the episode itself and the serise as a whole.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    hightower1 wrote: »
    "Meeting an alien race" - Its a sci fi show, this is meant to be a given. What did the race bring to the table... nothing. What did we find out from them... nothing. Why were they there... we have no idea. So we dont know their name, intentions on the seeder ship, intentions in regards to destiny or place in the SGU universe.. nothing.
    Frankly that's like watching the Band of Brothers Bastogne episode and complaining that it was filler because all they did was fight and that's what you expect from a WWII series. As I recall this is only the second time in the entire series that an alien race has been introduced, unless you count the mystic gas or the Lucian Alliance, so I'd say it is quite a significant plot movement.
    "Abandoning one of the main characters" - as was said already he has been on destiny a wet week and the loss of telford was nothing major. In fact his loss isnt even a loss considering how obvious it is we will see him again. When Rush was left on the planet we had no idea if we would see him again or get back seeing as it was the first season and had no idea if they were willing to remove a big name from the show so soon. We also had no clue how he would get back seeing as the blue aliens had not been tied into that ep at all. Now we know all that and have seen the formula before whats so revolutionary about doing it again? Nothing.
    That doesn't make the episode filler. Predictable, regurgitated maybe, but it isn't filler. Filler is when the writers/producers find themselves with a blank space where an episode should be so they do a standalone story. An episode that has absolutely no relevance to the overall pervading story and effectively 'resets' at the end.

    Clearly this doesn't fall into that category. If you skipped it, you'd probably be complaining how quickly they got pally with their 'Maquis', you'd be wondering where Telford went to, who these new alien guys are, what's this ship they're on, where'd all this data come from and so on. Not to mention you'd have missed some nice bits of character drama, the name of the game in a character driven show, which is what Universe is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Frankly that's like watching the Band of Brothers Bastogne episode and complaining that it was filler because all they did was fight and that's what you expect from a WWII series. As I recall this is only the second time in the entire series that an alien race has been introduced, unless you count the mystic gas or the Lucian Alliance, so I'd say it is quite a significant plot movement.

    That doesn't make the episode filler. Predictable, regurgitated maybe, but it isn't filler. Filler is when the writers/producers find themselves with a blank space where an episode should be so they do a standalone story. An episode that has absolutely no relevance to the overall pervading story and effectively 'resets' at the end.

    Clearly this doesn't fall into that category. If you skipped it, you'd probably be complaining how quickly they got pally with their 'Maquis', you'd be wondering where Telford went to, who these new alien guys are, what's this ship they're on, where'd all this data come from and so on. Not to mention you'd have missed some nice bits of character drama, the name of the game in a character driven show, which is what Universe is.


    Aside from completely ignoring my point that it could have been based on anything rather than an ancient ship and was simply there for plot convenience and not story reasons you are missing the point and specific word I underlined previously... new


    That doesn't make the episode filler. Predictable, regurgitated maybe, but it isn't filler. Filler is when the writers/producers find themselves with a blank space where an episode should be so they do a standalone story. An episode that has absolutely no relevance to the overall pervading story and effectively 'resets' at the end..

    it didnt need to reset at the end simply because it did next to nothing to drive the main plot along. in fact the one story that fits your description is the one where they found a keno by the gate sent from apparently the future? That was a brilliant story IMO becuase it showed so much of what the characters are like deep down because while the story itself was played out in the future it showed up how they would react in a life or death situation. We saw Greer would become the shepard of the flock and go down fighting and how he would give his life to protect the weaker ones, how scott would break down at being left as the last one standing and how in the end Rush would do the right thing for everyone. The whole story reset in the end but that didnt matter because it added to our understanding of the people and core belifes hence moving the story of SGU along in terms of the extremes of the cast. It showed us new sides of them.

    Clearly this doesn't fall into that category. If you skipped it, you'd probably be complaining how quickly they got pally with their 'Maquis', you'd be wondering where Telford went to, who these new alien guys are, what's this ship they're on, where'd all this data come from and so on. Not to mention you'd have missed some nice bits of character drama, the name of the game in a character driven show, which is what Universe is.


    I'm sorry but pally with the aliance prisioners? What exactly in this ep made them "pally" with them?
    I'd be wondering where telford went to... if I tuned back in 3 ep's time he will be back and I wouldnt know he was gone in the first place.
    All the data... what the data that bear in mind IN THIS EPISODE we heeard nothing about? This isnt a discusssion on the serise being filer but this episode specifically.
    nice bits of character drama... like what exactly? What new character key points did we see that was new?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    JohnK wrote: »
    I'd say your right there and they could gate back to the ship in a future episode. It seems as logical to have a gate room on that ship as on Destiny and if it was never meant to have a crew on board then why the control room and life support? If nothing else the ancients would have wanted a way to send repair crews on board.
    Right. And like everything else the Ancients seemed to do, there would be redundant systems. Its unlikely that docking to a Seed Ship is the only way to board one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Solid ep. - best one this season so far. No Lt. Boobs = fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭somuj


    All this nonsense talk of "plot" and "filler". What is the plot??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Good episode. I was actually hoping they'd connect back to Earth. They could have off-loaded most of the nobodies and then when the connection failed they'd have been forced to get the LA out to bolster their numbers.

    As pointed out, why have they not followed Rush? If they don't find out about the bridge by next episode it'll have gone beyond a joke.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    so chloe's involvement was "look doc, my leg is healed" and then showing off her fantastic legs at the end.

    this show is starting to annoy me now. it's so very very slow and when each mini-story reaches it's climax it's such a feckin anti-climax and all tidied up neatly in a couple of mins :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    somuj wrote: »
    All this nonsense talk of "plot" and "filler". What is the plot??

    Well if you read up on SGU you would see the season one plot was survival whilst season two is destinys mission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    solid episode, will be interesting to see what exactly those aliens want, id say they want destiny, they only stunned the crew instead of killing them and then tried to drain destinys power preventing it from going anywhere, and the seeder ship seemed to be in working order, it only seemed to be parked up waiting for destiny to arrive,

    its hard to say what will happen telford, they could be a firendly species, or they might torture telford for information, id say theyll be following destiny for the next few episodes,

    id say maybe another few episodes till the LA are released, i cant see young just letting them roam around freely, afterall the crew are his responsability and earth dont give a toss about destinys crew, there more worried about there own asses to care, at least young has the balls to stand up to them unlike wray,

    chloes seems to be staying in the background a lot for a main carcater, it will be interesting to see what happens to her, she obviously has been genetically modified, but to what extent, im kinda dissapionted as to how she has progressed, i was expecting her to have a bit of a spine by now, not running around the ship barking orders, but at least making sure her input is being taken in by the hirearchy,

    i think we need young to just go back to earth and have it out with homeworld command and the IOA, this sh1t with wray trying to call the shots is retarded, young is in command, not wray or rush and that should be made abundantly clear to the whole crew, its kinda annoying me at this stage,

    i concur more greer and james:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    SG-1 Spent at least a season, if not two, building up to Atlantis, an Ancient weapon, the lost city, etc. And I dont remember complaints about filler or plot development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Lol @ the discussion about it being a filler

    Good episode, Rush keeping secrets is starting to get stupid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    hightower1 wrote: »
    ... whilst season two is destinys mission.
    Says who? Destiny's mission has been mentioned since the start, why is it only now decided that it is the plot for this season? I would have thought that would be the general overall series arc, not just a season plot. I'd much prefer the two alien species to be the main plot for this season, and given that Earth is fighting the LA and will (likely) have less to do with Destiny once they get the info they need, that could lead to a very interesting plot with Destiny being left alone and caught in between two species of Alien who both seem to want the Ancient technology, but can't access it without the crews "help".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Johnmb wrote: »
    Says who? Destiny's mission has been mentioned since the start, why is it only now decided that it is the plot for this season?.

    Eh? I cant see how you think the mission was the theme of season one seeing as nearly that entire season was the crew trying to breath, eat and drink hence the EP titles like "air" and "water"???

    Says who? ...... lol, Brad Wright the co-creator of the show!

    Brad Wright: I think season 2 is going to be answering a lot of questions that were building up and that people may have been wanting to know the answers to all through season 1, the biggest of which is “What is this mission all about?” and “What was this ship launched for to begin with?”
    If season 1 was “We’re stuck on a runaway train and we don’t even know where it’s going,” then in season 2 we figure out how to steer the train and drive the train, and, of course, the question still remains whether or not we should, but also what the mission is, what The Destiny was launched for, and with that, our characters begin to understand that this isn’t all about getting home anymore.


    Source: http://tvdeathray.com/2010/09/27/interview-stargate-universe-co-creator-brad-wright-previews-season-2/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Eh? I cant see how you think the mission was the theme of season one seeing as nearly that entire season was the crew trying to breath, eat and drink hence the EP titles like "air" and "water"???
    I don't think it was the plot of season 1, just as I don't think it'll be the plot of season 2.
    Says who? ...... lol, Brad Wright the co-creator of the show!

    Brad Wright: I think season 2 is going to be answering a lot of questions that were building up and that people may have been wanting to know the answers to all through season 1, the biggest of which is “What is this mission all about?” and “What was this ship launched for to begin with?”
    If season 1 was “We’re stuck on a runaway train and we don’t even know where it’s going,” then in season 2 we figure out how to steer the train and drive the train, and, of course, the question still remains whether or not we should, but also what the mission is, what The Destiny was launched for, and with that, our characters begin to understand that this isn’t all about getting home anymore.


    Source: http://tvdeathray.com/2010/09/27/interview-stargate-universe-co-creator-brad-wright-previews-season-2/
    That isn't actually a plot. That is some questions that he reckons may be answered this season, but the plot, i.e. the story being told, isn't necessarily about answering those questions, it would be a very short, or very boring, season if that's all the plot was. We learned a lot about Atlantis, by way of answering some very similar questions to those above, but I don't recall any season plot that was dedicated to answering them. They were picked up during other plots such as dealing with the Wraith, Replicators, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭somuj


    hightower1 wrote: »
    Well if you read up on SGU you would see the season one plot was survival whilst season two is destinys mission.


    And since Rush only mentioned the mission to his imaginary friends briefly on the bridge in the second epiosde I would hardly call it a plot yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭hightower1


    If you read any amount of info on SGU you would uncover any amount of information clearly stated by the writers , cast and creators saying that the main theme of season 1 is survival and the main theme of season 2 is the mission.... its not personal opinion.... its fact.


    In an interview with Gateworld...

    GW: If Season One’s theme was the loss of everything that’s been in their lives before and learning to live in this new microcosm for the foreseeable future, what would you say are the major themes that are going to be coming in Season Two?
    LF: I think deeper relationships that arise from the very thing you just said, that camaraderie you would have with people over time. It’s not unlike a new civilization that’s built from the ground up. I mean, we started from the ground up — we needed air, we needed water. I think, eventually, it’ll delve deeper into everyone’s individual stories.
    And I think also a big part of that is the sci-fi element, which always puts out the bigger questions out there: Who are we? What are we here for? What is the purpose? And there’s something very interesting about the ship itself, Destiny, and what it represents and what that has to offer.
    I can’t give away much, obviously, but I can tell you that’s a very, very, big, big part of Season Two — the Destiny itself.


    Source: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/09/young-at-heart/3/


    In another interview ....

    (Carlyle)

    “But, not only that. There is, in fact, a mission. There has always been a mission. It has never been about going home. It’s a game-changer, as they like to say around here. Everything changes in that moment.
    “So Young, instead of wanting to kill [Rush], says, ‘What is it?’ [Rush] tells him, and it’s so mind-boggling he actually manages to get Young on [his] side. The dynamic changes between Rush and Young in that moment. They decide to come together and move forward. Don’t start looking behind. Stop saying we don’t belong on this ship. Embrace it, and move forward.”

    Source : http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/08/rush-and-young-headed-for-new-revelations/


    In an interview with SCI FI PI, Brad Wright again explains....

    SCI FI PI reports that “the Destiny has a destination of cosmic importance,” according to an upcoming interview with executive producer Brad Wright — “so important that it overshadows the desire for the crew to get home, and that by fulfilling this new mission, it may in fact allow them to get home.”

    Source: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/06/sgu-season-two-reveals-destinys-mission/


    And the statements go on and on just do a search and you will see. So I dont need to add "imo" , its not my opinion.... its indeed fact... season 2 is about destinys mission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    i thought it was a pretty good episode. not outright "filler" like some episodes in Season 1 (the hallucinations one comes to mind) but still a pretty solid episode.

    interesting about the seed ship and i'm wondering whether the aliens on it are related to the blue ones from season 1...? also curious as to whether they damaged the seed ship to trap destiny or discovered it like that, and studied it.

    i'm not liking the way the LA story is playing out. hope they have an episode where they're dealt with fully and something comes of them. don't like the fact that it's just ticking along..."oh we're prisoners for another week. let's just take this on the chin". something needs to happen with them and the sooner, the better.

    why has no one noticed about chloe's leg healing? :mad: hope they discover she has some sort of virus and to save everyone, they flush her out an airlock. i kinda liked her in season 1 but she's just getting really annoying now.

    season 2 is a bit weaker than season 1. the episodes are divided a bit too much and everything gets developed a little bit each episode. i'd much prefer that each story gets a decent chunk of an episode rather than the little bits they're getting now. but the episodes are still interesting but it could be better imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    I actually thought it was a pretty good episode. I mean, technically it's filler because nothing actually happened... but in a way, it's setting up something to come. I mean obviously we haven't seen the end of Telford.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    hightower1 wrote: »
    If you read any amount of info on SGU you would uncover any amount of information clearly stated by the writers , cast and creators saying that the main theme of season 1 is survival and the main theme of season 2 is the mission.... its not personal opinion.... its fact.
    Okay, I'll accept the above, but that is not what you originally claimed. While finding out more about the mission the Ancients planned may be a theme running through the season (and the next few assuming it is renewed), a theme is not a plot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    whiteman19 wrote: »
    interesting about the seed ship and i'm wondering whether the aliens on it are related to the blue ones from season 1...? also curious as to whether they damaged the seed ship to trap destiny or discovered it like that, and studied it.
    I'd say theres a modest chance of a relation. As for a trap I very much think so, given the stasis pods that they were "Awakened" from, and the fact that the ship had more than enough power but was shut down. No mention of any damaged systems; if there was visible dereliction to the engines, etc. they would have seen it on approach. In my opinion their mission was to instigate an encounter with destiny and disable it with a power tap. And the majority of whatever information was downloaded to destiny was likely diagnostic and automatic. I dont think Rush did or had to do anything on the bridge: Destiny picked up the beacon and navigated to dock with the Seeder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Are the aliens from the seed ship Ancients? Sorry I'm a Stargate noob.


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