iPhone 5 may be coming Q1 next year.

cojomo2

http://www.t3.com/news/apple-iphone-5-to-launch-q1-2011-with-brand-new-design?=49777

naasrd

cojomo2 wrote: »

http://www.t3.com/news/apple-iphone-5-to-launch-q1-2011-with-brand-new-design?=49777

Just a rumour, join the queue.

patch

Makes sense.
I think they dropped the ball by sticking with such a small screen on the 4.

cojomo2

naasrd wrote: »

Just a rumour, join the queue.

join the queue?

Dades

iPhone 5 may be coming Q1 next year.

My ass!

Expect an iPhone 4S sometime next year at most.

Slightly faster and with a compass.

cojomo2

Dades wrote: »

My ass!

Expect an iPhone 4S sometime next year at most.

Slightly faster and with a compass.

and with an antenna that actually works;)

mad muffin

cojomo2 wrote: »

http://www.t3.com/news/apple-iphone-5-to-launch-q1-2011-with-brand-new-design?=49777

No...next?!

cojomo2

mad muffin wrote: »

No...next?!

have that on good authority do ya?

I think its plausible. There were rumored to be making a CDMA version ages ago, that was due to be released early next year..perhaps the cdma version didn't utilise a retarded antenna system, so now they may go with this new design for both a cdma and a gsm version ..instead of redesigning the current, flawed ipod4iphone4

mad muffin

cojomo2 wrote: »

have that on good authority do ya?

I think its plausible. There were rumored to be making a CDMA version ages ago, that was due to be released early next year..perhaps the cdma version didn't utilise a retarded antenna system, so now they may go with this new design for both a cdma and a gsm version ..instead of redesigning the current, flawed iph4.

You obviously haven't owned any kind of Apple products before have you?

Nor do you really understand their business model and history?

cojomo2

mad muffin wrote: »

You obviously haven't owned any kind of Apple products before have you?

Nor do you really understand their business model and history?

iphone, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs,iphone4 and an ipad.

Got great use out of all of them, still do (my ipad), apart from the iphone 4, which I found well below par as a phone, and so got rid of it .

mad muffin

cojomo2 wrote: »

iphone, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs,iphone4 and an ipad.

Got great use out of all of them, still do (my ipad), apart from the iphone 4, which I found well below par as a phone, and so got rid of it .

SO I'm right then, you haven't really owned Apple products before the iPhone came out, nor have you followed Apple.

If you had you would know why they wouldn't release a new iPhone in 1Q 2011.;)

naasrd

cojomo2 wrote: »

join the queue?

The iPhone 5 rumour queue. There was a thread about it here two months ago.

Fat_Fingers

mad muffin wrote: »

SO I'm right then, you haven't really owned Apple products before the iPhone came out, nor have you followed Apple.

If you had you would know why they wouldn't release a new iPhone in 1Q 2011.;)

I don’t see why not. I had most of the Apple products but that doesn’t mean I’m expert. I was one of them going no , no, our apple will never use Intel, they never use linux and slap on their UI on top. Well nothing is set in stone.

cojomo2

mad muffin wrote: »

SO I'm right then, you haven't really owned Apple products before the iPhone came out, nor have you followed Apple.

If you had you would know why they wouldn't release a new iPhone in 1Q 2011.;)

well just because they have their set times of year for releasing certain products, and seem to always stick to this doesn't mean much in this case.

As far as I'm aware, this is the 1st time apple have actually released a flawed product, and a pretty big flaw considering the product is a phone and the flaw is with its antenna design.

So yeah , I thinks its possible there may well be a break from the norm here, the sooner the iphone 4 is replaced the better, for both Apple and end users.

mad muffin

cojomo2 wrote: »

well just because they have their set times of year for releasing certain products, and seem to always stick to this doesn't mean much in this case.

As far as I'm aware, this is the 1st time apple have actually released a flawed product, and a pretty big flaw considering the product is a phone and the flaw is with its antenna design.

So yeah , I thinks its possible there may well be a break from the norm here, the sooner the iphone 4 is replaced the better, for both Apple and end users.

Why? The iP4 is a great smart phone and is selling like hotcakes.

naasrd

mad muffin wrote: »

Why? The iP4 is a great smart phone and is selling like hotcakes.

Yeah, constantly sold out. And the article is nonsense too. All hear say and rumour, nothing concrete. We've been through this ages ago;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055994615

guil

how is the iphone flawed, i've never had any issues with signal and every smart phone does the same thing when held that way, usual media hyping up a story

brianhickey

Dades wrote: »

My ass!

Expect an iPhone 4S sometime next year at most.

Slightly faster and with a compass.

Regardless of what they call it, Apple will release the 5th iPhone next year, and there's no way they'll call it the iPhone 4S.

cojomo2

guil wrote: »

how is the iphone flawed, i've never had any issues with signal and every smart phone does the same thing when held that way, usual media hyping up a story

look, I know everyone likes to think the phone they purchased and spent a lot on is brilliant....but I have been there, in my experience, the iph4 performed very poorly (as a phone) where I live. I have since changed phone and have no such problems.

I am open to buying an iphone again, if the issue is fixed in the next iphone, but I will be also seeing what android has to offer at that stage as well.

brianhickey

cojomo2 wrote: »

look, I know everyone likes to think the phone they purchased and spent a lot on is brilliant....but I have been there, in my experience, the iph4 performed very poorly (as a phone) where I live. I have since changed phone and have no such problems.

I am open to buying an iphone again, if the issue is fixed in the next iphone, but I will be also seeing what android has to offer at that stage as well.

Did you have signal issues in general or only when you touched the deadspot? Maybe you got a dodgy one, unless I touch the bottom left corner my signal has been much improved over previous iPhones.

guil

cojomo2 wrote: »

look, I know everyone likes to think the phone they purchased and spent a lot on is brilliant....but I have been there, in my experience, the iph4 performed very poorly (as a phone) where I live. I have since changed phone and have no such problems.

I am open to buying an iphone again, if the issue is fixed in the next iphone, but I will be also seeing what android has to offer at that stage as well.

the iphone 4 cost me 9 euro, 259 on upgrade and i sold the 3gs for 250, i got it 8 months before for free for porting to o2

i'd be the first to whinge and moan if i was having problems with it but bar the odd time the proximity issue arises, i have absolutely no problems whatsoever, i have had it in a silicon case since day 1 cos the back of my 3gs was destroyed with scrathes from keys etc

who knows maybe ya got a bad one

cojomo2

brianhickey wrote: »

Did you have signal issues in general or only when you touched the deadspot? Maybe you got a dodgy one, unless I touch the bottom left corner my signal has been much improved over previous iPhones.

i went through 2 of them so unlikely it was a dodgy handset.

I just held the phone how I normally hold it, sometimes that meant covering the little black strip, especially when using it for browsing the web.

I remember ringing Apple about it, and the conversation kept breaking up, so I had to take my SIM out and put it in an old nokia and ring back..no problems then..

I admit that the problem isnt a big deal in areas where the signal was very strong anyway but that isnt good enough for a supposedly top of the range smart phone...

I had a few dropped calls at home in the few days I was using it, since changing phones I have had not even 1.

The thing that angered me the most was how apple handled it...that left a sour taste in my mouth..more so than the actual problem itself.

Still tho, apple make amazing products, so if this issue is fixed in the next iphone I would give good consideration to buying it, although I'm now using a HTC device and am very pleased with it.

Oafley Jones

guil wrote: »

how is the iphone flawed, i've never had any issues with signal and every smart phone does the same thing when held that way, usual media hyping up a story

The iphone's signal issue is unique to the iphone. No other phone has the design of having exposed antennae and therefore open to interference due to galvanic contact. While you can interfere with the signal of other phones by blocking the covering the antenna housing, it's false to say that every smart phone has the iPhones problems.

I can't see the next iPhone arriving till June, to do so would be an admission of failure from Apple, something they don't do. I can see a CDMA iPhone 4 early next year. I still believe that only when we see the next Phone will we know what Apple internally thinks of the 4's design. Had the issues with antenna not surfaced I'd have bet that the next model would have been like the 3G to the 3GS upgrade. If it's a complete redesign it could be a tacit admission of the 4's problems.

cojomo2

guil wrote: »

the iphone 4 cost me 9 euro, 259 on upgrade and i sold the 3gs for 250, i got it 8 months before for free for porting to o2

i'd be the first to whinge and moan if i was having problems with it but bar the odd time the proximity issue arises, i have absolutely no problems whatsoever, i have had it in a silicon case since day 1 cos the back of my 3gs was destroyed with scrathes from keys etc

who knows maybe ya got a bad one

that's why you have no problems.

I prefer not to use a case on an iphone, I rather a leather slip case as I think an always on case takes from the look of the phone.

guil

even without the case i havent had problems, i've tried it a few times but %95 of the time its in the case

culabula

T3. The Oracle at Delphi. I think not.

Load of auld drivel.

jamesd

All we will see is CDMA iPhone 4 early next year,will no no 5 in Q1

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/2/20101008/-new-iphone-coming-early2011-bf205d4.html

"t, to the disappointment of fanboys everywhere, this doesn't mean an early arrival for the iPhone 5, but a CDMA-enabled device to work on the Verizon network."

"We fully expect it as well, and we fully expect there to be no death-grip issues with the updated device. Apple has already had its fingers badly burnt with that problem and will surely be taking extra precautions this time around."

Gregor Samsa

Fat_Fingers wrote: »

[...] they never use linux and slap on their UI on top.

I'm sorry, but that is a serious misunderstanding of what OS X is.

As for "iPhone 5" early next year, unless you count a CDMA version of the 4 as a 5, then not a chance.

BobPresto

cojomo2 wrote: »

I remember ringing Apple about it, and the conversation kept breaking up, so I had to take my SIM out and put it in an old nokia and ring back..no problems then..

What "old nokia" phones use micro sim cards?

jamesd

BobPresto wrote: »

What "old nokia" phones use micro sim cards?

You can get micro sim adapters that you put the micro sim into and can use in any phone.

Bellu

hmm, iPHone 5? is it a update for solving the antenna problems? maybe.
Personally I think the next iPhone will be an updates tweak of the iPhone 4 much like the 3GS was a upgrade/tweak of the 3G.
But I believe the really really big change will be the iPad.
Rumor: Apple To Release ‘Mini’ iPad in Early 2011
http://www.ifunia.com/news/rumor-apple-to-release-mini-ipad-in-early-2011/

whiterebel

phutyle wrote: »

I'm sorry, but that is a serious misunderstanding of what OS X is.

As for "iPhone 5" early next year, unless you count a CDMA version of the 4 as a 5, then not a chance.

Thats exactly what it will be. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't announce a new iPhone until well after June to give them a chance to line up the new iPhone across all markets, leaving a decent distance between the launch of the CDMA version and the all new iPhone which will cover both Networks. Might give them a chance to get their supply issues sorted out too.

Fat_Fingers

phutyle wrote: »

I'm sorry, but that is a serious misunderstanding of what OS X is.

LOL, ok.. but i did say i'm no expert :D

Dades

brianhickey wrote: »

Regardless of what they call it, Apple will release the 5th iPhone next year, and there's no way they'll call it the iPhone 4S.

Eh?

banquo

"iPhone Transition Year"

Rabble Rabble

mad muffin wrote: »

SO I'm right then, you haven't really owned Apple products before the iPhone came out, nor have you followed Apple.

If you had you would know why they wouldn't release a new iPhone in 1Q 2011.;)

The ih-house experts!!

While Apple tend to release products at certain times of year, that is not written in stone. They will come out with a verizon ( or CDMA) phone - same form factor as the iPhone 4 - early next year. They need to stop the Android marketing bandwagon, which is based mostly on increased sales in the US.

Apple tends to update it's Mac line in two ways, quietly and noisily. The quiet stuff is just a speed bump and is often just a press release, the noisy ones take a SJ press conference and involve a change in form factor.

I see Apple doing that for iPhones: two releases a year, one will be increases in speed or RAM, or a new radio chip and no need for a conference. The second one would be the Big Event - change in form factor. In fact the Big Event could be every second year eventually. However before that there are a lot of models to come out.

patch

All this talk of no major updates is based on an old business model where the iphone had very little real competition.
This year apple iphone has had bad press and the now very real competition has moved on to larger screens and higher specs.
I'd say in order to have any real chance of keeping the market share, apple need to bring out an iphone 5. Or at least bring out a higher end phone with bigger screen, faster processor (androids will drop 2gig processors next year) etc. to run alongside the iphone 4.

brianhickey

Dades wrote: »

Eh?

They will definitely release the 5th iPhone next year (in June/July), and they definitely won't call it the 4S. Capiche?

brianhickey

patch wrote: »

All this talk of no major updates is based on an old business model where the iphone had very little real competition.
This year apple iphone has had bad press and the now very real competition has moved on to larger screens and higher specs.
I'd say in order to have any real chance of keeping the market share, apple need to bring out an iphone 5. Or at least bring out a higher end phone with bigger screen, faster processor (androids will drop 2gig processors next year) etc. to run alongside the iphone 4.

They still can't keep up with production though. Releasing on Verizon (biggest carrier in the US, nearly 100,000,000 customers) will see them through next year easily. I think they will stick to their schedule (iPad in May, iPhone in July, iPods in September) as it allows them to give all of these products their own period of focus, from their internal teams and from the media.

I suppose we're arguing over the intentions of one of the most secretive companies in the world, unless anyone here is posting from Cupertino we really don't have a clue. It's fun though!

patch

brianhickey wrote: »

They still can't keep up with production though. Releasing on Verizon (biggest carrier in the US, nearly 100,000,000 customers) will see them through next year easily. I think they will stick to their schedule (iPad in May, iPhone in July, iPods in September) as it allows them to give all of these products their own period of focus, from their internal teams and from the media.

I suppose we're arguing over the intentions of one of the most secretive companies in the world, unless anyone here is posting from Cupertino we really don't have a clue. It's fun though!

Except that verizon already have the motorola droid and recently their own version of the samsung galaxy s available.
I'd imagine apple must be keeping an eye on that and asking themselves some serious questions.
I'm not sure about verizon's policy, but I'd imagine they's have no problem letting their iphone 18mth contract holders port over to an android once they make a few quid in the process.
Fun indeed!

Rabble Rabble

brianhickey wrote: »

They still can't keep up with production though. Releasing on Verizon (biggest carrier in the US, nearly 100,000,000 customers) will see them through next year easily. I think they will stick to their schedule (iPad in May, iPhone in July, iPods in September) as it allows them to give all of these products their own period of focus, from their internal teams and from the media.

I suppose we're arguing over the intentions of one of the most secretive companies in the world, unless anyone here is posting from Cupertino we really don't have a clue. It's fun though!

I believe that FoxConn are building more factories. If you dont try and keep up with production, you never will. Pretty sure the marketing and sales departments do their projections and let the operations guys deal with the production.

brianhickey

Rabble Rabble wrote: »

I believe that FoxConn are building more factories. If you dont try and keep up with production, you never will. Pretty sure the marketing and sales departments do their projections and let the operations guys deal with the production.

Sorry I was just using that as an example of how popular they are, I don't think it's actually the plan. I'd say the scale of the iPad launch has taken them by surprise as well. Especially when this Verizon launch happens, they're going to need the capacity. I'd say there's massive pent-up demand from people who can't get AT&T signal.

I just don't think Apple mind all that much being behind android in terms of spec. The Apple don't even release the Ghz and ram of their new consumer stuff, they are playing a whole different game. The complete package of aesthetics, usability, the app store is a product immune to a certain extent to the boom and bust cycle of other product releases. It's crazy to people like us who are in the know, but there's large groups of people out there who don't know and don't really care about the tech specs of their phone.

Dades

brianhickey wrote: »

They will definitely release the 5th iPhone next year (in June/July), and they definitely won't call it the 4S. Capiche?

brianhickey wrote: »

I suppose we're arguing over the intentions of one of the most secretive companies in the world, unless anyone here is posting from Cupertino we really don't have a clue.

It's your in-post contradictions I don't capiche.

brianhickey

Dades wrote: »

It's your in-post contradictions I don't capiche.

They would be insane to call it the 4S, it would be really confusing. But it is possible, I guess, but extremely unlikely.