Drink/Drug driver there vehicles?

Alpha Papa · 06-10-2010 9:33pm #1

Hope this is ok to ask..

Always wondered, from watching road wars and the like. what happens if a person is a arrested for drink/drug driving on a public road..

what happens to there vehicles afterwards, is it impounded by the Gardai/Police? And does the person then have to pay release fee/costs or just collect there car the next day? Ive seen on tv some police officers just hop in it and drive them away or other call a tow truck.

Is insurance not an issue for the officer?

Or is just left on the side of the road where they where stopped.. obviously with the exception of a motorway?

Hope doesnt seem like a silly question, just curious..

Thanks

APapa

Turner · 06-10-2010 10:21pm

If they are causing an obstruction normally they are moved by the officer.

If not they are just locked up.

Gardai are covered by the states insurance scheme to drive any vehicle as long as they hold a license covering that vehicle.

Alpha Papa · 06-10-2010 10:27pm

Thanks Chief appreciate that.

Corcioch · 06-10-2010 10:47pm

Chief--- wrote: »

If they are causing an obstruction normally they are moved by the officer.

If not they are just locked up.

Gardai are covered by the states insurance scheme to drive any vehicle as long as they hold a license covering that vehicle.

Wot he said.

mind you the second one always made me laugh over the years. . .your covered if you have the licence . . .yet your exempt from needing a licence by law when on duty . . .mad.

Hooch · 06-10-2010 11:14pm

Chief--- wrote: »

Gardai are covered by the states insurance scheme to drive any vehicle as long as they hold a license covering that vehicle.

Infact while policy is to have a licence for that category, you are still covered under state insurance for a vehicle you are lawfully driving in the course of your duties......and as cork says you cant be prosecuted as you are exempt a licence while working.

Zambia · 06-10-2010 11:22pm

nice guy always wrote: »

Infact while policy is to have a licence for that category, you are still covered under state insurance for a vehicle you are lawfully driving in the course of your duties......and as cork says you cant be prosecuted as you are exempt a licence while working.

Is it not a prerequisite to garda employment now to have a full licence?

Hooch · 07-10-2010 7:37am

Zambia232 wrote: »

Is it not a prerequisite to garda employment now to have a full licence?

No. It is a recommendation for future recruitment however.

Reloc8 · 07-10-2010 5:56pm

Chief--- wrote: »

If they are causing an obstruction normally they are moved by the officer.

If not they are just locked up.

Gardai are covered by the states insurance scheme to drive any vehicle as long as they hold a license covering that vehicle.

To be fair, I've come across many cases where a garda has, very kindly, been willing to move a suspects car to an appropriate place for them (if they are arrested close to home especiallyl) or bring it back to the station from where keys can be collected the next day following whatever process is necessary following the arrest (that is unless e.g. a breath test is negative or very close in case of a drink driving arrest where there is no question of drug use).

Spartan09 · 07-10-2010 9:47pm

We were told recently (albeit we are only humble reserves)....that if a car is to be seized that you had to call the designated tow company to take it away and that members were to be discouraged from driving them back. However I will of course defer to full time members in this regard.

The bravo · 07-10-2010 11:17pm

Spartan09 wrote: »

We were told recently (albeit we are only humble reserves)....that if a car is to be seized that you had to call the designated tow company to take it away and that members were to be discouraged from driving them back. However I will of course defer to full time members in this regard.

Im based in DMR and have never seen a seized car etc being driven by memebers....call the tow company if a car is to be seized or te'd. <mod snip> Although when I was in phase 2 members driving the cars was done the whole time.

Reloc8 · 08-10-2010 2:52pm

Speaking from outside the force, I've seen evidence given of members driving vehicles in drink driving cases and it really does not raise eyebrows at all.

Where I could foresee a difficulty would be in the unfortunate event of an accident - not that the garda would be uninsured, but the cost to the State etc. (including damage to the suspect's car).

Why it would be best practice not to drive any one's car for them is to cover yourself against the following...

...say if as you exited the vehicle you saw something shiny and it turned out to be a knife ? or some foil wrapped judge ?

...say if the next morning the car was searched (either on a s. 23 MUDA or a planned operation) when the suspect was driving it home and a bag of drugs found in the boot ? Or a gun ?

Who was the last person to drive the car (aside from the owner)

errrr...

probably best not to have to answer those kind of questions.

Corcioch · 08-10-2010 6:05pm

Wha???????????????

MagicSean · 08-10-2010 6:39pm

nice guy always wrote: »

No. It is a recommendation for future recruitment however.

I think that is mostly due to the fact that student Gardaí cannot be driving to the college on a provisional.

Spartan09 wrote: »

We were told recently (albeit we are only humble reserves)....that if a car is to be seized that you had to call the designated tow company to take it away and that members were to be discouraged from driving them back. However I will of course defer to full time members in this regard.

That's a pilot scheme introduced in the DMR about 2 years ago because all towing there is put out to tender. I'm not sure if it has spread to any other regions yet.

Corcioch · 09-10-2010 10:37pm

k_mac wrote: »

I think that is mostly due to the fact that student Gardaí cannot be driving to the college on a provisional.

Its so that CBD1, which has a full driving licence as a pre requsite cant be taught to Student Gardaí in Templemore prior to attestation.

Zambia · 10-10-2010 2:48am

There is no police force here that would accept an application from someone without a full manual driving licence.

In light of harsher economc times it would be prudent of the AGS to require more of the applicants prior to entry.

old_aussie · 10-10-2010 2:54am

Zambia232 wrote: »

There is no police force here that would accept an application from someone without a full manual driving licence.

In light of harsher economc times it would be prudent of the AGS to require more of the applicants prior to entry.

Is that in Ireland or Australia

Zambia · 10-10-2010 3:16am

old_aussie wrote: »

Is that in Ireland or Australia

Australia.

old_aussie · 10-10-2010 5:39am

They'll take people into the NSW Police Force with their red P's (provisional) drivers licence.

Nearly all police cars and vans in NSW are auto so they can do other things (eat donuts)

whilst driving.

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/recruitment/am_i_eligible

Zambia · 10-10-2010 7:49am

Really thats just sloppy of me i assumed they would not.

Zambia · 10-10-2010 9:00pm

Zambia232 wrote: »

Really thats just sloppy of me i assumed they would not.

Well actually in a way they do if they did not accept Red P platers basically most under 20 year olds would not even get a look in. Its almost impossible to gain it given the time on these plates*.

Your still Passed the entire testing Phase.

*A P1 driver licence is issued for 18 months. You must hold a P1 licence for a minimum total period of 12 months before being eligible to progress to a P2 licence.

Sorry I am so far off topic its criminal

Drink/Drug driver there vehicles?

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