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M50 toll (tax break?)

  • 06-10-2010 6:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I've started a job on the northside of the city so have to dirve over the toll bridge every day (x2)

    Just working it out i will have to pay at least €100 a month(€1200 a f*&^ing year of my measly salary), as well as my petrol, road tax, insurance etc. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Is there any tax breaks offered for people who have to use this road every day?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Hi all,

    I've started a job on the northside of the city so have to dirve over the toll bridge every day (x2)

    Just working it out i will have to pay at least €100 a month(€1200 a f*&^ing year of my measly salary), as well as my petrol, road tax, insurance etc. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Is there any tax breaks offered for people who have to use this road every day?

    Driving to work is not allowables as a Schedule E expense hence going through the toll wouldn't be an expense either.

    If you are self employed and if you were driving to see a client of yours etc, then it would be an allowable expense against your income.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    1200 euro is some hit to the wages alright. I do recall everybody kicking up over the levies placed on our wages. I think the tolls make levies look small by comparison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    did you not know the toll bridge was there when you took the job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    corktina wrote: »
    did you not know the toll bridge was there when you took the job?


    Theres always one idiotic smart arse.

    :rolleyes:

    I was hardly going to turn down a job in the current climate, just don't think i should have to pay €1300 euro a year on tolls to travel my 10 miles to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭pajo1981


    Not trying to be smart, but what's up with the bus service in your area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    can you not go some other road around the toll?? even if you only done it on the way home it would take 50% off the cost


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Theres always one idiotic smart arse.

    :rolleyes:

    I was hardly going to turn down a job in the current climate, just don't think i should have to pay €1300 euro a year on tolls to travel my 10 miles to work.

    They way its going we'll all be paying the toll for small hops on the M50. There are two new gantrys being built on the M11 near Bray. Bets are on that its for toll cameras.

    If they toll the M50 in its entirity its time we all left the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    I was hardly going to turn down a job in the current climate, just don't think i should have to pay €1300 euro a year on tolls to travel my 10 miles to work.

    That's some toll you have there, it's gone up €100 in 2 days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭steevee


    Lads stop the smartarse replies . The OP asked a question hoping for some helpful advice .:mad:
    I have to use the m50 twice a day as well but i've found that with the freeflow m50/n3 junction (and the recessionary drop in traffic volumes) i can skip around by the strawberry beds and only add 10 mins to the journey.
    before anyone points out the toll is less than the fuel used i drive a van so the toll is higher than the cost of fuel used.:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    ironclaw wrote: »
    There are two new gantrys being built on the M11 near Bray. Bets are on that its for toll cameras.
    Be prepared to lose your bet then. They're for VMS (traffic information) displays.

    http://www.m50.ie/index.php?page=daily-traffic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I was hardly going to turn down a job in the current climate, just don't think i should have to pay €1300 euro a year on tolls to travel my 10 miles to work.

    you could take an alternate route
    you can get a tag to reduce cost
    you can cycle instead and save toll, fuel etc
    you can use public transport
    etc etc etc

    no-one is forcing you to use the M50 and incur such expenses, you are doing so cos it's the most convenient for you I imagine and is in fact easily avoidable.

    Tag, cost is 2 quid x 2 x 5 days x 48 weeks = 960 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Chippy01


    Theres always one idiotic smart arse.

    :rolleyes:

    I was hardly going to turn down a job in the current climate, just don't think i should have to pay €1300 euro a year on tolls to travel my 10 miles to work.


    If it's only ten miles, then get yourself a motorcycle. No toll charge on the M50 and a godsend in heavy traffic. Dress for the weather and you'll be quids-in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    You could do an Ivor Callely on it and adapt your car for a disabled relative as a passenger and so be exempt.
    Vehicles adapted for disabled drivers or passengers are also entitled to exemption from toll fees. Toll road operators issue special passes which are recognised by all other toll road operators and which allow such vehicles pass through the tolls without paying. To obtain a special pass apply to your nearest toll road operator.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/roads-and-safety/national_toll_roads_in_ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭CrackisWhack


    Have to laugh at some of the replies here! no wonder the country is so F*&$ed up.

    To answer a few responses:

    -Public transport is not really an option, I would be looking at a minimum of 4 hours travel time a day( i know its not Belfast i'm working in, but anyone who has used 2 buses to get from the southside to the northside will know how long it takes!) Lets be honest Dublins transport system is poor.

    -Using another road, traffic in Dublin is heavy at the best of times, so thats out aswell.

    - and cookie monster, i am being forced to use it, be reasonable, of course you will pay the €5 over a 4 hour commute, they have you over a barrel really.


    All i was asking was, is there a tax break? which there doesnt seem to be. I'm on a low enough salary, without having to fork out €1200 a year to cross a bridge. I pay €600 car tax a year, plenty of tax on the petrol i buy etc. So i really think it is an unfair burden on alot of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    Have to laugh at some of the replies here! no wonder the country is so F*&$ed up.

    To answer a few responses:

    -Public transport is not really an option, I would be looking at a minimum of 4 hours travel time a day( i know its not Belfast i'm working in, but anyone who has used 2 buses to get from the southside to the northside will know how long it takes!) Lets be honest Dublins transport system is poor.

    -Using another road, traffic in Dublin is heavy at the best of times, so thats out aswell.

    - and cookie monster, i am being forced to use it, be reasonable, of course you will pay the €5 over a 4 hour commute, they have you over a barrel really.


    All i was asking was, is there a tax break? which there doesnt seem to be. I'm on a low enough salary, without having to fork out €1200 a year to cross a bridge. I pay €600 car tax a year, plenty of tax on the petrol i buy etc. So i really think it is an unfair burden on alot of people.

    As I've said above, driving to work from your home is not allowable as an expense against your income, wether you are self employed or if you are in an employment.

    If you are in employment and your job requires you to go from work to visit a client for instance and you burden the cost of going through the toll, then you can return the cost of the toll against your employment income. You can do this by signing up for PAYE anytime on the Revenue website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Alun wrote: »
    Be prepared to lose your bet then. They're for VMS (traffic information) displays.

    http://www.m50.ie/index.php?page=daily-traffic

    Very good point. But regardless its a gantry. Extremely easy to throw the necessary toll kit on to. If its for a VMS, its going to have a datalink, perfect for a toll system to be slotted on.

    The M50 should be toll free. Dublin city centre should have congestion charges. Why should we pay to skirt the city? Bus's are frequent into town. Its a different story if you like the OP and need to drive across the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    Simple answer is no.

    There is other routes to your work place. You just have to decide how much your time is worth to you and balance that with using the M50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Very good point. But regardless its a gantry. Extremely easy to throw the necessary toll kit on to. If its for a VMS, its going to have a datalink, perfect for a toll system to be slotted on.
    Maybe, maybe not. For toll purposes it'd have to be a full width gantry going across all 2 or 3 carriageways which many VMS gantries are not. Something like this for example. In fact looking at the works going on, it looks to me like the only foundations going in are on the roadside, not on the central reservation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Ever consider getting a motorcycle or even a scooter?
    You'd learn to drive a scooter easily enough

    Not only will you save on fuel, tax and tolls, you will also scythe through the traffic :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    Ever consider getting a motorcycle or even a scooter?
    You'd learn to drive a scooter easily enough

    Not only will you save on fuel, tax and tolls, you will also scythe through the traffic :cool:

    As long as the Scooter has more than 50cc and goes faster than 50k its allowed on motorway's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Of course, I saw M50 in the thread title, thought the 50cc and minimum speed part didn't need to be added, it's on every sign :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    Of course, I saw M50 in the thread title, thought the 50cc and minimum speed part didn't need to be added, it's on every sign :)

    Wasn't aimed at you it's for the OP to read so he doesn't go and buy one of the cheap one's that are not allowed on Motorways. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Theres always one idiotic smart arse.

    :rolleyes:
    If you're unwilling/unable to conduct a reasoned debate then best not post at all. Any more personal abuse and it'll be a week off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Wasn't aimed at you it's for the OP to read so he doesn't go and buy one of the cheap one's that are not allowed on Motorways. ;)

    On that note, what would be a good fuel efficent CC for motorway use? I'd feel sort of vunerable under 250cc.


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