penalty points

kincaid

i just got a letter for a speeding fine coming onto the m1 out of Dublin the thing is my friend was driving my car and hes from Northern Ireland .
whats the story here regarding points on licence etc

thanks

MetzgerMeister

You need to fill out a form to say he was driving and get him to sign it. Worse case scenario is he'll have to pay a fine. No points on his license or yours.

kincaid

thanks....so thats cross border points system isnt in yet then


no way of getting out of fine then as cant see him forking out the money as lost his job last week so il end up forking it out

Idleater

Surely it'd be cheaper for you (Insurance/Risk wise I mean) to sponsor him the money for the fine than taking the points on your own licence?

R.O.R

einheisserschre wrote: »

You need to fill out a form to say he was driving and get him to sign it. Worse case scenario is he'll have to pay a fine. No points on his license or yours.

He doesn't have to sign it, the registered owner has to sign it.

Fill in the drivers details, name and address and post it back to the Gardai.

If he's from Belfast, he might never hear anything of it, or he might receive a Garda fine. Whatever pans out, it's out of the registered owners hands and those of the demon speeder.

kincaid

oh he doesnt need to sign anything then, he's from Tyrone(so may hear about it) i was not with him in the car..

i just fill out the form with his details and send it off i presume registered post in this case and He/I may get off without paying fine

Tropheus

When you name him, you may get an enquiry to check if he was insured to drive the car.

kincaid

does that happen often and do they follow that up when hes from the north

kincaid

hi, do you get this form at the garda station

R.O.R

kincaid wrote: »

hi, do you get this form at the garda station

On the back of the speeding notification is the part to fill in, nominating who was driving at the time of the offence.

kincaid

ok thanks not sure how long this usually takes but my friend will probably be contacted by guards by post to verify if he was really driving the car and then get a fine by post (maybe might not fine him at all since he lives up north) -is that the usual procedure?

guil

why are ya worrying over it, if you werent driving it thats the end of story

Random

happened me before.

i was driving someone elses car and it went like this:
- i got flashed. i said bollocks!
- letter came in the post about 3 weeks later alleging the reg owner was speeding
- reg owner put in my details, said i was driving and posted it back
- i got a letter out about 3 weeks later alleging i committed the offence
- i filled out the form, paid the fine, got the points

nobody asked if anyone was insured to do anything etc etc but that doesn't rule out them asking i guess.

Mena

How is this not open to abuse? For example, my brother, who lives in South Africa, comes over for holidays every so often, and drives my car. If I pointed the finger at him (rightly or wrongly) there's nothing they can do? I'd imagine after pulling that a few times they'd just whack me with the fine?

Tigger

Mena wrote: »

How is this not open to abuse? For example, my brother, who lives in South Africa, comes over for holidays every so often, and drives my car. If I pointed the finger at him (rightly or wrongly) there's nothing they can do? I'd imagine after pulling that a few times they'd just whack me with the fine?

its very open to abuse
i hear :pac:

kincaid

i never got a speeding fine or points before so didnt know the story and dont want to land my friend in bother so just wanted some advice on the matter before i done anything..
thanks all for your input...