British Airways unveils 'retro' livery as 757 era ends

Steyr

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Aircraft
DATE:05/10/10
SOURCE:Flight International

British Airways unveils 'retro' livery as 757 era ends
By David Kaminski-Morrow

British Airways has repainted one of its Boeing 757-200s in a retro livery, dating back 27 years, to mark the retirement of the type from its fleet this month.

The airline is withdrawing its 757s from mainline scheduled service on 30 October, although the type will continue to fly for its French-based premium subsidiary OpenSkies.

British Airways is repainting one of the twin-jets, registered G-CPET, in the 1983 derivative of an original livery designed by consultancy Negus & Negus.

The livery, which matches that used by the airline when the 757 entered service, features the single brand 'British' and 'speedbird' logo on the forward fuselage, and the familiar Union flag design on the fin.

BA's 757 fleet peaked at 54 aircraft - many of which were named after castles - but the twin-jets have been gradually removed from its operation. The commemorative 757 will carry the name 'Stokesay Castle', after a manor in Shropshire, for its final month.

While several 757s were originally intended to reinforce the OpenSkies fleet, BA has instead opted to sell them to FedEx for freighter conversion.

"Back in 1983, the Boeing 757, was at the cutting edge of aviation technology enhancing our capability to land in thick fog," says BA director of flight operations Capt Stephen Riley.

"This allowed British Airways to fly when rival carriers would be grounded. Almost everyone in the operational side of the business has either piloted, repaired, dispatched or looked after customers flying on this aircraft over the past 27 years."

lord lucan

She looks great in that livery.:)

scudzilla

I've been on so many different types of Aircraft but NEVER a 757!!!!

Gonna have to try and do it soon me thinks

Foggy43

The B757 is creeping back in to LHR East coast American flights. It will be intersting to see what the winter schedule throws up.

G-CPET is only 12 years old. You still have time.

Dacian

That livery looks great. glad they choose that one

scudzilla wrote: »

I've been on so many different types of Aircraft but NEVER a 757!!!!

Gonna have to try and do it soon me thinks

They are common in Dublin at the moment. The B757-200 is getting a late life resurgance by serving T/A routes with lower yields/loads.

pclancy

I always remember being amazed by the take off performance of Monarch 757s when I went on holiday as a kid. They just leap for the sky!

urajoke

Foggy43 wrote: »

The B757 is creeping back in to LHR East coast American flights. It will be intersting to see what the winter schedule throws up.

G-CPET is only 12 years old. You still have time.

NO you don't.

You have till the 30th of OCTOBER this month to fly her. She is being withdrawn from service as BA's last 757 on that date.

There will be one charter flight flown on the 6th of November EGLL-EGCC-EGLL there will be a low level fly past at Manchester.

http://www.ianallantravel.com/aviationtours/227038%20-%20BA%20757%20-%20Provisional%20Itinerary%20-%20Issue%201%20-%20AB.pdf

You do have plenty of time to fly 757's with other carrier's though including BA's offshoot Openskies.

Run_to_da_hills

My first time ever in a commercial jet was a BA 757 ex Dub to LHR in April 1986.

Foggy43

urajoke wrote: »

NO you don't.

You have till the 30th of OCTOBER this month to fly her. She is being withdrawn from service as BA's last 757 on that date.

There will be one charter flight flown on the 6th of November EGLL-EGCC-EGLL there will be a low level fly past at Manchester.

http://www.ianallantravel.com/aviationtours/227038%20-%20BA%20757%20-%20Provisional%20Itinerary%20-%20Issue%201%20-%20AB.pdf

You do have plenty of time to fly 757's with other carrier's though including BA's offshoot Openskies.

Yes! It will continue in service along with G-CPER and G-CPES for some time. It is not been withdrawn from service. BA will still have there hands on it. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see them back in Terminal 3, LHR next summer.

iPlop

scudzilla wrote: »

I've been on so many different types of Aircraft but NEVER a 757!!!!

Gonna have to try and do it soon me thinks

Every time I go to lanzarote or fuertaventura I always end up on a thomas cook or thomson 757-200 with winglets!

Steyr

I believe the 757's are pretty tight even for T/A Legs.

Naked Lepper

the best transatlantic service from ireland is the continental airlines b757-200

rob88

Naked Lepper wrote: »

the best transatlantic service from ireland is the continental airlines b757-200

is it better than aer lingus? i've never been on either

mle1324

Flew on the Monarch 757 a couple of years ago and it wasn't too bad (just seems to be a longer 737 me thinks) however I do prefare to be on the A300's which I was on a few years before that

furiousox

I'm flying to JFK in November with Delta, I believe it's on a 757.
From what I've heard the plane is a bit dated, 3 seats either side of the cabin, no personal tv screen etc.
Is that correct?
Not particularly looking forward to the flight from what I've heard so far.

Andrew33

pclancy wrote: »

I always remember being amazed by the take off performance of Monarch 757s when I went on holiday as a kid. They just leap for the sky!

Yep, have to agree, they seem to achieve amazing T/O angles. click to see one of JET2's finest leaving LPFRhttp://www.irishairpics.com/photo/1035235/M/Boeing-757-23A/G-LSAC/Jet2-Channel-Express-LS--EXS/
I was never a big Boeing fan but I really have taken to the 757 (specially with winglets)

urajoke

Foggy43 wrote: »

Yes! It will continue in service along with G-CPER and G-CPES for some time. It is not been withdrawn from service. BA will still have there hands on it. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see them back in Terminal 3, LHR next summer.

If sometime means till the 6th of November 2010. They are all believed to have been sold to Fedex for conversion to freighters.

After a ‘flying career’ spanning 27years, British Airways (BA) retires its
last Boeing 757-200s from passenger service on 31st October, ending another chapter in the UK flag carrier’s and British civil aviation history.

After its withdrawal from service the half-dozen or so aircraft will be put up for disposal; most, if not all,
will end up being converted into freighters for ‘overnight package’ operators.

Plowman

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Dacian

furiousox wrote: »

I'm flying to JFK in November with Delta, I believe it's on a 757.

I think Delta usually have B767s out of Dublin, at least thats all that I have seen. I'm sure your flight itinerary will give you that info..........

US and CO use B757s.
@ Naked Lepper: Personally I would prefer the twin aisle EI A330 to single aisle B757 going across the Atlantic.

furiousox

Dacian wrote: »

I think Delta usually have B767s out of Dublin, at least thats all that I have seen. I'm sure your flight itinerary will give you that info.....

Yep, according to my booking it's a 757.
What are they like?
Never been on one.

iPlop

furiousox wrote: »

Yep, according to my booking it's a 757.
What are they like?
Never been on one.

A large 737.I don't think Id fancy one going across the atlantic though.Give me an A330 or 767 anyday.

furiousox

Septic Leper wrote: »

A large 737.I don't think Id fancy one going across the atlantic though.Give me an A330 or 767 anyday.

iPlop

furiousox wrote: »

Are you sure it's not a 767.I have not seen a delta 757 in dublin for about two years ,mind you I don't be there that often any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6fptwqF3ug

furiousox

Depart Dublin Delta Air Lines 165
Economy | Boeing 757
7hr 40min 10:45 Dublin Airport (DUB) Arrive New York, New York 13:25 John F Kennedy Intl (JFK) | Terminal 3
:(

EDIT: Just remembered, I selected my seats when I made the booking and the seating plan was the 757 "3 + 3" arrangement
Pity, the 767 looks great!

iPlop

furiousox wrote: »

Depart Dublin Delta Air Lines 165
Economy | Boeing 757
7hr 40min 10:45 Dublin Airport (DUB) Arrive New York, New York 13:25 John F Kennedy Intl (JFK) | Terminal 3
:(

Well I'll be damned:eek: I hope it's been upgraded with PTV's for such a long flight.I have done this flight with Aer Lingus!

Dacian

furiousox wrote: »

Yep, according to my booking it's a 757.
What are they like?
Never been on one.

Could be just a schedule change. The B757 is single aisle with the same fuselage cross section as the B737. Seating in economy will be 3-3 across. So think a long B737.

If you have ever been on an Aer Lingus/BMI A321 to/from Heathrow think of that. AFAIK the B757-200 is a little longer than it. Indeed a upgraded A321 (with longer range) is currently being touted as the future B752 replacement

rob88

the delta pilot in the 2+2 thread (where people ask him about being a pilot) he flies the 767/757 and he said the 757 handles like a sports car compared to the 767 which feels like a big old slow car or something similar.. the power of the 757 is a lot better.. he said when landing the 757 he puts the engines to idle at around 30/40 feet but on the 767 around 10 feet

also i read a blog from a first officer with FR who said many of the captains he's talked to in the cockpit of the 738 said that all the other planes they've flown such as 737 classics, 727's, 747's etc all handle better than 738 and are a lot more stable

furiousox

7hrs 40mins on this!?

iPlop

furiousox wrote: »

7hrs 40mins on this!?

Yack:eek:

This is what you want Aer lingus A330

Plowman

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furiousox

Now that's more like it!
Has anyone here flown Delta to JFK, what are they like?

iPlop

Plowman wrote: »

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Very nice indeed:)

Foggy43

furiousox wrote: »

Now that's more like it!
Has anyone here flown Delta to JFK, what are they like?

I haven't but go here

http://www.delta.com/index.jsp?Log=1&MkCpgn=SEzzzy1a&cid=71000000000023802&s_kwcid=TC|8492|delta%20airlines||S|b|5665293408

Enter DUB and JFK and dates. Click on Find Flights. Yours is the DL165. Look down under Flight and Cabin Class and Click on Inflight Services and the answer is there.......but.....as always in the small print things can change at the last minute.

furiousox

No in-flight entertainment, that can't be right surely?
In-Flight Services

Amenities for Flight 165 may include:

Origin &
Destination Food Service In-Flight
Entertainment First/Business Coach DUB to JFK Dinner
None

iPlop

furiousox wrote: »

No in-flight entertainment, that can't be right surely?
In-Flight Services

Amenities for Flight 165 may include:

Origin &
Destination Food Service In-Flight
Entertainment First/Business Coach DUB to JFK Dinner
None

Ouch op! I wonder could you find out the reg of the aircraft then see if there is an interior view on airliners.net ,feck it I'll have a look in the net:)

iPlop

Delta flight 165
From (DUB) Dublin, IE to (JFK) New York, NY, US
Duration: 7h 30m
Equipment: Boeing 767-400 Passenger (Scheduled)
Equipment: Boeing 767-400 Passenger (Actual)

That's whats being used on today's flight:)

iPlop

They seem to use the 767-400 for your flight OP:)


ACTIVITY LOG
Date Aircraft Origin Destination Departure Arrival Duration
08-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:30 BST 15:01 EDT Scheduled
06-Oct-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:44 BST 14:14 EDT 6:30
05-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:46 BST 14:37 EDT 6:51
04-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 13:00 BST 14:49 EDT 6:49
04-Oct-2010 B764 Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 13:00 BST 15:38 EDT 7:38
03-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:44 BST 14:45 EDT 7:01
02-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:46 BST 14:40 EDT 6:54
01-Oct-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:27 BST 14:23 EDT 6:56
30-Sep-2010 B764 Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 13:27 BST 16:05 EDT 7:38
30-Sep-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 13:27 BST 15:48 EDT 7:21
29-Sep-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:53 BST 15:02 EDT 7:09
28-Sep-2010 B764 Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:51 BST 15:26 EDT 7:35
28-Sep-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:26 BST 14:18 EDT 6:52
27-Sep-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:48 BST 14:19 EDT 6:31
26-Sep-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:43 BST 14:17 EDT 6:34
25-Sep-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:44 BST 14:44 EDT 7:00
24-Sep-2010 B764/Q Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 12:50 BST 14:07 EDT 6:17
23-Sep-2010 B764/W Dublin Int'l (EIDW / DUB) John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 13:27 BST 15:08 EDT 6:41




Happy Days;)

combat5

looks very good brings back the look of the concorde

furiousox

Septic Leper wrote: »

They seem to use the 767-400 for your flight OP:)

Thanks for that, looking forward to the flight now!:)

Foggy43

I'm afraid come October 31st the airline business goes into what is known as the 'winter schedule'. Some services will increase and some will reduce. Time changes to suit the winter time clock. It all changes again next March when we will start the 'summer schedule' beginning the day the clocks go forward. What Delta are doing is nothing new. Inthe summer more travellers so a bigger aircraft. The winter less so a smaller aircraft. Again it depends what fleet the airline has.
Another airline because it has only one aircraft type with ETOPs approval are taking a little more drastic measure to cut costs the second half of the winter schedule. Services on the routes stopped will resume for the summer schedule.

It's all done do demand. More so now than before due to the worlds current financial situation. No point putting on a bigger aircraft if it will not be full.

iPlop

Foggy43 wrote: »

I'm afraid come October 31st the airline business goes into what is known as the 'winter schedule'. Some services will increase and some will reduce. Time changes to suit the winter time clock. It all changes again next March when we will start the 'summer schedule' beginning the day the clocks go forward. What Delta are doing is nothing new. Inthe summer more travellers so a bigger aircraft. The winter less so a smaller aircraft. Again it depends what fleet the airline has.
Another airline because it has only one aircraft type with ETOPs approval are taking a little more drastic measure to cut costs the second half of the winter schedule. Services on the routes stopped will resume for the summer schedule.

It's all done do demand. More so now than before due to the worlds current financial situation. No point putting on a bigger aircraft if it will not be full.

Ahhh I see ,and obviously there will be fewer passengers ,so thats why the OP's ticket says a 757.I would have thought JFK would be busy with Irish visitors in Nov/Dec ,Christmas shopping and all that

jahalpin

I flew on a 757 from Philidelphia to Dublin with US Airways and wouldn't reaally want to repeat the experience. I only had to fly on the 757 on the return journey as the outward was routed through LHR on a United 747

The plane isn't really suited to transatlantic journeys as it is too narrow and being a single aisle plane you can't really get up and walk around the plane to stretch your legs during the flight.

The 757's that the US airlines on TA flights also seem to be fairly old and basic when compared to the domestic 757's in use in America.

The livery on the BA 757 looks pretty nice, however, it would have been better if they had painted it in the next livery which the planes would have actually flown in for most of their service

mle1324

Look at it this way furiousox, at least your flight is to JFK. I once flew from Dublin to Orlando on a very very cramped A310 with no tele's and a horrible smell of piss on board.

Never again.

Dacian

mle1324 wrote: »

Look at it this way furiousox, at least your flight is to JFK. I once flew from Dublin to Orlando on a very very cramped A310 with no tele's and a horrible smell of piss on board.

TransAer?


The B757 sounds good all of a sudden.


And just to point that the Concorde cabin wasn't very comfortable. Cramped, single aisle, low ceiling with hard seats and no inflight entertainment apart from a big speed display at the front. Granted if I had ever been photographed at the speed display showing Mach 1.2 my opinion may be better.............


As an aside I take pleasure telling my kids to read a book when they complain that the internet is down and they can't play Xbox.............NO IFE on a plane.........oh the humanity..............

mle1324

Nope.

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=012714

That

In all honestly I wouldnt mind flying on a 757 again to Gran Canaira but the USA ? I think I'd pass.

nag

Dacian wrote: »

Granted if I had ever been photographed at the speed display showing Mach 1.2 my opinion may be better.............

Average cruise speed was Mach 2.02. Oh to dream *sigh*

Delta Kilo

nag wrote: »

Average cruise speed was Mach 2.02. Oh to dream *sigh*

I think both of you are correct. Mach numbers vary with altitude as the air is less dense. Its all relative to the speed of sound, whose speed varies depending on the density of the medium it is travelling through. It may be going Mach 2.02 at 55,000ft but at sea level, that may only have been Mach 1.2

Anyways, carry on...

Naked Lepper

continental have better entertainment than aer lingus
they have a more advanced personal tv system with better selection imo
plus the 757 has less queues for bags, less queues getting on and off and in general good service, not sure about deltas 757s but continental are pretty good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpL_d7ctoA

run_Forrest_run

jahalpin wrote: »

I flew on a 757 from Philidelphia to Dublin with US Airways and wouldn't reaally want to repeat the experience.

the missus was due to fly aer lingus from JFK-Shannon a few years back and they merged the flight with a US Airways 757 (obviously numbers were too low to merit sending the A330 across, who knows!) and she had the worse TA crossing ever.
On a totally unrelated note, I was in Dublin last week walking around the terminal waiting for my short flight to Cork and I took a stroll over to the US departures area. Looking out at the Delta, American, Shannon birds all preparing for their trip I felt all weepy, been ages since I've gone to the US and would be nice to be heading over there now, leaving this miserable place behind :rolleyes:

Steyr

Damn i didnt think id get 4 pages out of my post. :pac:

Foggy43

It seems to have become a B757 performance and comfort debate. Yesterday I saw the other 2 BA B757 ETOPs getting ready for their winter duties. G-CPET is daily operating out of Terminal 3.

Perhaps another thread to discuss the B757 on East coast American routes.