New Irish Myprotein site.

Armedocr

Got an e-mail from them today. Reduced Irish shipping again, all prices in Euro and double points for Irish referrals. Pretty cool idea imo.

brianthebard

yeah sounds great, some fairly big discounts scheduled for the launch too.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

cool, what's the prices then?

JJayoo

Great news

brianthebard

actually wonder if they'll take laser? Someone get one to them, transform???

Armedocr

Oh god it'd be amazing if they took laser. I'm really sick of using my CC.

Zorba

My email said they're offering 10 % discount on your first 5 orders, happy days.

Gordon Gekko

Zorba wrote: »

My email said they're offering 10 % discount on your first 5 orders, happy days.

Happy days provided they don't then revert to special 'Irish' prices like the Irish versions of so many UK sites...

Sangre

They've already said their prices won't be the same due to compliance with Irish tax regulations and currency management.

spear thrower

Hi folks.. First time i have came across this site looks very good and products look pretty impressive so would you recommend their products? Are they tried and tested? - Or do all you work for the company and its in your 'commissioning sales' interest to big them up?..:D:D:D

Thinking of going for the Whey Protein myself..

DARCHA22

Cant fault them as a company, good customer service, good products.

Looking forward to using my 5 10% discounts, CHAAAA CHING!!!

Khannie

Shipping fee has gone up, no? It's £5 currently, which is €5.77. They're now saying €6.

grimloch

Yeah theres an awful lot of "fine print" that will likely eliminate any cost saving we think we'll make.
That said, their stuff is great value and i'm not going to split hairs over an extra 50 cent or so because its still going to be half the price of the big brand name products.

ray jay

Gordon Gekko wrote: »

Happy days provided they don't then revert to special 'Irish' prices like the Irish versions of so many UK sites...

I wouldn't be surprised it that was the case. With any luck the UK site will still deliver to Ireland if it turns out to be true

Khannie

There are alternative sites if it doesn't work out that way. If I get reduced turnaround / delivery time at the same prices I'll be more than happy.

Zorba

Gordon Gekko wrote: »

Happy days provided they don't then revert to special 'Irish' prices like the Irish versions of so many UK sites...

Very true might be worth noting down the current UK prices of the products we buy now and see what the difference is on the Irish site.

bluefinger

Any chance of a link?

(annoying if it is cheaper as i just put in a big order yesterday) :mad:

Zorba

ray jay wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised it that was the case. With any luck the UK site will still deliver to Ireland if it turns out to be true

This might not work, the email i got says you'll be automatically redirected to the irish website, might need a proxy uk ip or something to use the uk site, not sure time will tell.

Zorba

bluefinger wrote: »

Any chance of a link?

(annoying if it is cheaper as i just put in a big order yesterday) :mad:

www.myprotein.co.uk

Irish site not up and running yet

DARCHA22

for the extra 23cents diff on the delivery, they will still be much much cheaper than all irish retailers, sure most irish retailers charge 7euro anyway.

splitin hairs here people.

if your that hard up for 23cents, then dont buy supplements.

And you can always just buy from some of the uk sites who have great deals too.

if you are a MP customer already, you will get your next 5 orders onthe irish site with 10% discount. Its win win for Irish customers here

dartstothesea

DARCHA22 wrote: »

if your that hard up for 23cents, then dont buy supplements.

Really?

Will everything still ship from the UK? Maybe having an Irish version of the site will make people here more aware of the site somehow but otherwise it's surely only going to be an effort to get Irish customers to pay more than they would have been paying. I'd definitely say the UK site will stop letting you order to Irish addresses.

TommyKnocker

dartstothesea wrote: »

Really?

Will everything still ship from the UK? Maybe having an Irish version of the site will make people here more aware of the site somehow but otherwise it's surely only going to be an effort to get Irish customers to pay more than they would have been paying. I'd definitely say the UK site will stop letting you order to Irish addresses.

If it turns out the Irish site is much more expensive and you are not allowed order from the UK site to an Irish address, then simply email MP and tell them you will be taking your business elsewhere and advising others to do the same.

I am sure in these recessionary times they would be quick enough to revert back to business as usual to avoid losing their Irish business if the get enough emails.


M

john_cappa

Shipping fees reduced³ to only €5.95 so you can save even more money with Myprotein......lol!

You mean they have increased. Prices will also increase to comply with Irish tax laws.

This will not be a good thing for the consumer who already uses MP imo. Will lead to marginal increases i would say. It will open it up to many people who dont use MP already though so might bring prices overall downward in Ireland. Given the upward pressure on the prices of whey though....

Not use MP whey in a while. sticking to reflex pep fusion for the forseeable future personally. Do use them for oats and few other bits occasionally.

omniscient_toad

I'm a bit hazy on the rules and I'm sure someone knows this better but I believe there's a threshold where once they sell over a certain value of goods to Ireland they have to charge Irish (which is higher) rather than UK vat. In a way they've become victims of their own success by selling more to Ireland and need to set the Irish site up to allow for higher tax rate they have to charge, it remains to be seen whether they charge anymore on top of the jump from 17.5% to 21% vat (I'm not sure if this is applied to shipping as well, it could explain a minor increase in that).

edit: here is the terribly exciting tax rule,

Every year the UK business should check whether its level of sales to unregistered customers in Ireland requires it to register for Irish VAT under the distance selling rules. Broadly, these require a UK business to register for Irish VAT, and then charge that instead of UK VAT, if its sales of goods to customers in Ireland who are not registered for Irish VAT are over €35,000 in a calendar year. Such a registration is also optional at lower levels of sales, but as rates of Irish VAT on most goods have recently increased from 21% to 21.5%, which is typically higher than the UK VAT equivalent, this is unlikely to be favourable.

marathonic

omniscient_toad wrote: »

I'm a bit hazy on the rules and I'm sure someone knows this better but I believe there's a threshold where once they sell over a certain value of goods to Ireland they have to charge Irish (which is higher) rather than UK vat. In a way they've become victims of their own success by selling more to Ireland and need to set the Irish site up to allow for higher tax rate they have to charge, it remains to be seen whether they charge anymore on top of the jump from 17.5% to 21% vat (I'm not sure if this is applied to shipping as well, it could explain a minor increase in that).

edit: here is the terribly exciting tax rule,

I believe you are correct. The same thing happened with www.wiggle.co.uk a couple of years ago and the result was a rise in the price of cycling gear, etc. ordered from that site. If you're orders are big enough, it may be worth trying to get it shipped to anyone you know in the North. This isn't practical for alot of people but works well for me as I live in Donegal and work in Derry.

Gordon Gekko

DARCHA22 wrote: »

for the extra 23cents diff on the delivery, they will still be much much cheaper than all irish retailers, sure most irish retailers charge 7euro anyway.

splitin hairs here people.

if your that hard up for 23cents, then dont buy supplements.

And you can always just buy from some of the uk sites who have great deals too.

if you are a MP customer already, you will get your next 5 orders onthe irish site with 10% discount. Its win win for Irish customers here

My point is not about an extra 23 cents, it is about the well-practised rip-off of Irish consumers by UK sellers. I will be looking very carefully at my next order - anything beyond a small difference in price caused by the increase in the VAT rate from 17.5% to 21% will be profiteering at the expense of Irish customers. MP's costs will remain exactly the same bar the VAT change - so if their prices increase by any more than the VAT difference they'll be deliberately ripping us off.

However, agreed they're a good supplier so I'll hold fire until the site is up and running.

Sangre

Gordon Gekko wrote: »

My point is not about an extra 23 cents, it is about the well-practised rip-off of Irish consumers by UK sellers. I will be looking very carefully at my next order - anything beyond a small difference in price caused by the increase in the VAT rate from 17.5% to 21% will be profiteering at the expense of Irish customers. MP's costs will remain exactly the same bar the VAT change - so if their prices increase by any more than the VAT difference they'll be deliberately ripping us off.

However, agreed they're a good supplier so I'll hold fire until the site is up and running.

As they selling in a different currency they will be hedging against currency fluctuations which is another cost to factor in, not to mention Irish legal/tax advice and other general costs. It isn't quite as straight forward as a small VAT difference.

Nate--IRL--

omniscient_toad wrote: »

I'm a bit hazy on the rules and I'm sure someone knows this better but I believe there's a threshold where once they sell over a certain value of goods to Ireland they have to charge Irish (which is higher) rather than UK vat. In a way they've become victims of their own success by selling more to Ireland and need to set the Irish site up to allow for higher tax rate they have to charge, it remains to be seen whether they charge anymore on top of the jump from 17.5% to 21% vat (I'm not sure if this is applied to shipping as well, it could explain a minor increase in that).

edit: here is the terribly exciting tax rule,

I've experienced this also with other UK sites selling completely different goods. As you said, victims of their own success.

Nate

Gordon Gekko

Sangre wrote: »

As they selling in a different currency they will be hedging against currency fluctuations which is another cost to factor in, not to mention Irish legal/tax advice and other general costs. It isn't quite as straight forward as a small VAT difference.

Fine. Which begs the question, why bother if there's no direct benefit to their Irish customers?

Edit - this is hypothetical until we see their prices - my comment above is a more general query on UK companies in general that set up Irish specific sites. Doesn't seem much point if a company's going to incur extra costs in setting up an 'Oirish' site outside of VAT which they then pass on to consumers.

Sangre

Gordon Gekko wrote: »

Fine. Which begs the question, why bother if there's no direct benefit to their Irish customers?

As already posted below, to comply with Irish tax law.

Every year the UK business should check whether its level of sales to unregistered customers in Ireland requires it to register for Irish VAT under the distance selling rules. Broadly, these require a UK business to register for Irish VAT, and then charge that instead of UK VAT, if its sales of goods to customers in Ireland who are not registered for Irish VAT are over €35,000 in a calendar year. Such a registration is also optional at lower levels of sales, but as rates of Irish VAT on most goods have recently increased from 21% to 21.5%, which is typically higher than the UK VAT equivalent, this is unlikely to be favourable.

Think quote is slightly out of date though as VAT is 21% isn't it?

bigron2109

Any Idea when the new Irish Verison of the Site will be up and running??

connundrum

Balls, just ordered mine and my brothers supplies a couple of days ago via .co.uk site

DARCHA22

Gordon Gekko wrote: »

My point is not about an extra 23 cents, it is about the well-practised rip-off of Irish consumers by UK sellers. I will be looking very carefully at my next order - anything beyond a small difference in price caused by the increase in the VAT rate from 17.5% to 21% will be profiteering at the expense of Irish customers. MP's costs will remain exactly the same bar the VAT change - so if their prices increase by any more than the VAT difference they'll be deliberately ripping us off.

However, agreed they're a good supplier so I'll hold fire until the site is up and running.

i cant argue wit your point mate, very valid.

DARCHA22

connundrum wrote: »

Balls, just ordered mine and my brothers supplies a couple of days ago via .co.uk site

why wud that be a problem, irish site prob wont be up for a month or two, and you will get it cheaper on the uk site.





the good thing is the 10% off 5 orders, after that if the prices are gonna be much more they cud lose business, but then again they cud gain new business(which i thnk they will)

dave80

connundrum wrote: »

Balls, just ordered mine and my brothers supplies a couple of days ago via .co.uk site

It prob cost the same so no worries mate

rubadub

Sangre wrote: »

Think quote is slightly out of date though as VAT is 21% isn't it?

€35000 is right though, I thought it was a hell of a lot more, 300,000 was in my head. I dunno how chainreactioncycles get away with it, a fair few people I know buy a lot a stuff off them.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/leaflets/vat-registration-foreign-traders.html

3.2 Where the value of distance sales to the State by a supplier in another EU Member State exceeds €35,000 in a calendar year that supplier must register for VAT in the State and must account for VAT at the appropriate Irish rates. If the threshold is not exceeded, the supplier may opt to register and account for VAT in the State on his or her distance sales.

connundrum wrote: »

Balls, just ordered mine and my brothers supplies a couple of days ago via .co.uk site

Probably better off, I can't think of a single UK site that set up an irish one where you were better off.

The only brightside is at least the VAT is going to our government -to blow on booze and overpaid muppets

Deadly Combination

I wouldnt advice anyone to buy those crappy products - LOL you get what you pay for sh*t


Eat sh*t look like sh*t

Hanley

Deadly Combination wrote: »

I wouldnt advice anyone to buy those crappy products - LOL you get what you pay for sh*t


Eat sh*t look like sh*t

Before I go on a rant, that's humour right?? I keep hearing about that thing.

SpookyBastard

Deadly Combination wrote: »

I wouldnt advice anyone to buy those crappy products - LOL you get what you pay for sh*t


Eat sh*t look like sh*t

Hahaha... funny man!

rubadub

Hanley wrote: »

that's humour right??

Or a Joe Duffy listener who happily eats other processed dairy products, just not the evil ones that teenage boys inject into each other with dirty syringes.

dave80

The co.uk site is currently down for 1-2 hours, so we could see the Irish site today

dave80

dave80 wrote: »

The co.uk site is currently down for 1-2 hours, so we could see the Irish site today

Irish site is now up

TommyKnocker

dave80 wrote: »

Irish site is now up

Link?? Just tried myprotein.ie and got to a page hosted by a web hosting company.


M

podge57

B-Builder wrote: »

Link?? Just tried myprotein.ie and got to a page hosted by a web hosting company.


M

They have changed the original site to myprotein.com, and you just click on the Irish flag to get the Irish version

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/pages/home

Brian?

B-Builder wrote: »

Link?? Just tried myprotein.ie and got to a page hosted by a web hosting company.


M

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/pages/home

They are too crafty to pay for the .ie site

john_cappa

briankeating wrote: »

http://www.myprotein.com/ie/pages/home

They are too crafty to pay for the .ie site

Crafty enough to rob us though?

Just looking at what I normally purchase which is oats and whey

Oats 5 kg

Uk price: 9.99 GPP
Irish price: 14.59 euro (equil in GPB........12.75

Paddy tax of 2.76 GPB or 3.15 euro per 5 kg


Impact whey flavoured
Uk price: 44.95 (ignoring the price match with BBW even!)
Irish Price:65.69 euro (equil in GPB...... 57.42)

Paddy tax of 12.47GPB or 14.26 euro per 5kg


Hmmmmmmmmmm

Gordon Gekko

Gotta say folks, looks like my initial fears about this were correct.

Recovery XS is £19.95 on the UK site, which XE.com calculates to be €22.82. Recovery XS is on the Irish site for €26.49.

Even conceding the fact that MP won't get the FX spot rates offered on XE, that is quite a difference I think you'll agree.

ray jay

so how does the unflavoured whey concentrate from www.bulkpowders.co.uk taste?

Vegeta

Yeah I priced 5kg of Vanilla Whey Yesterday for a friend and it was 45 pounds which is 51.50 in euro

It's 65 euro odd today on the Irish site

Drafting e-mail in a minute. Complete rip off

bluefinger

Typical. I'll have to get my proxy finding skills up to speed or look elsewhere.

um7y1h83ge06nx

What the F**K!!

Irish Site - Impact Whey Protein 5kg Flavoured (Vanilla) - €65.69

UK Site - Impact Whey Protein 5kg Flavoured (Vanilla) - £44.95 (€51.46)

Current conversion to Euro done using www.xe.com.

What the f**k lads?! Over €14 difference for the exact same product!