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Is this taking eating local too far?

  • 04-10-2010 4:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭


    My wife and I like to grow food, catch food and forage for food.
    When we buy food we like to know where it comes from and avoid needlessly imported foods.

    As we grow vegetables in our small back yard, slugs and snails are a constant problem for us and as we don't like to use poison it is necessary to go on continual slug and snail hunts. Search and destroy!!

    My wife started to feel bad about the wanton snail and slug slaughter and thought she'd feel better if we ate the snails at least.

    So for the last number of weeks she's had a 'Snail Jail' where she's collected snails, fed them and conditioned them for the pot.

    Today she blanched her first batch of snails and they are in the freezer awaiting some filo pastry.

    Is this going too far and am I married to a crazy woman??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,140 ✭✭✭olaola


    I've always wondered, can you eat common garden snails? Are they the same 'breed' as the ones you eat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Apparently you can,
    AFAIK they are the same breed (she did do some research).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Is the filo pastry local?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I would suggest that you get a pet duck to eat the snails and you can then have duck eggs which may be a lot tastier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I would suggest that you get a pet duck to eat the snails and you can then have duck eggs which may be a lot tastier.

    I'd only want to eat the duck!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭neuro-praxis


    omg

    I am impressed and repulsed in equal measure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I'd only want to eat the duck!!

    Well you could do eventually :)

    Or you could get a hedgehog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    if you like snails its not going too far but personally I can't imagine myself feeling remorse for a snail holocaust.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭2xj3hplqgsbkym


    The snails must be purged properly before eating to remove bacteria, otherwise you are likely to get food posining. Make sure she did this and if so try them, if you enjoy them then great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭btard



    Is this going too far and am I married to a crazy woman??

    Yes and yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Well you could do eventually :)

    Or you could get a hedgehog.

    Hmmm, baked hedgehog.

    Funny thing about snails - if I am presented with a batch of freshly cooked snails soaked in garlic butter in a restaurant, I'll happily tuck in. But I can't bring myself of eat the slimy gastropods from my garden. So there. It's conclusive. She's mad.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭shinikins


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Well you could do eventually :)

    Or you could get a hedgehog.

    Isn't it illegal to keep hedgehogs???

    But yes, she's mad (imo) far better to keep a duck and feed it up on the snails, two for the price of one so to speak, gorgeous duck eggs, and then a nice fat duck for roasting......yum!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭Drake66


    Hugh Fearnly Whittingstall and his chefs tried to come up with a few dishes using slugs on the last season of River Cottage. They were all inedible when they tried tasting them.

    Garden Snails are good to eat as long as you purge them in clean water. I have never tried them though; I think the thrushes deserve them more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Let us know how you get on OP! I've heard that they're edible and while I'd give them a try myself no-one else would so I've not bothered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭foodaholic


    I want pictures of the snail jail :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭ch2008


    Remember seeing Ramsay doing this on the F word, looked great. He used carrot in a jar to purge the snails. when their droppings were orange you knew it was time ;)

    Theres an article here
    http://gordonramsaysrecipes.com/03/eating-snails-from-the-garden/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Or you could get a hedgehog.
    Meat with built-in toothpicks. Cunning...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    The snails must be purged properly before eating to remove bacteria, otherwise you are likely to get food posining.
    Yes, I think some lad in australia died a few months ago after eating a slug for a bet.
    Drake66 wrote: »
    Garden Snails are good to eat as long as you purge them in clean water.
    I think it needs more than that, like the carrots mentioned above. I had heard of them being fed a flour & water paste for a few days but the orange coloured poo sounds a good idea.

    There was a house on my old road which was infested with snails. Snails & slugs are attracted to beer, its a good way to kill them or to catch/gather them. You get a 2L bottle and cut the bottom off and fill it with dregs of a few cans, then put it in your garden like a golf putting hole and they come from all around, fall into it and drown, they would climb the sides too if it was just left above ground. But if you went out each day you could see them all heading for it in a big circle around it and pick them up.
    I am not sure if the beer actually kills them or the drowning, I expect if you had a shallow tray and it was diluted down they might just all head into it and have a big pissup.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭greenbicycle


    Yep, water is not enough to purge them, the carrott might work but i have watched a programme on this where they actually put the snails in a container with porridge oats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Clean water is for clams and catfish, not snails...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    They were fed greens for a week or so and then washed.
    Then fed flour and oats until the poo goes white, washed again.
    Then kept in a dry place to they go kind of unconscious for up to 8 weeks.
    Washed, then plunged (unconscious) into boiling water for 4 minutes and refreshed.
    They have been deshelled and frozen awaiting further preperation.

    I will let everyone know what they are like when we get around to eating them (probably butter, fresh herbs and garlic in filo pastry)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    They were fed greens for a week or so and then washed.
    Then fed flour and oats until the poo goes white, washed again.
    Then kept in a dry place to they go kind of unconscious for up to 8 weeks.
    Washed, then plunged (unconscious) into boiling water for 4 minutes and refreshed.
    They have been deshelled and frozen awaiting further preperation.

    I will let everyone know what they are like when we get around to eating them (probably butter, fresh herbs and garlic in filo pastry)

    Sounds like an awful lot of work. Gathering mussels isnt even as much work as that. Not to mention the fact it is cruelty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭irisheddie85


    ive never tried it but if your garden is small enough laying down copper wire around it should keep out slugs and snails.

    Good luck with eating them dont think id be up for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    syklops wrote: »
    Sounds like an awful lot of work. Gathering mussels isnt even as much work as that. Not to mention the fact it is cruelty.

    You know, it isn't really been done for the sake of convenience!

    As regards your cruelty claim, they are deliberately done this way so they are unconscious when cooked.

    I'd say it is a lot less cruel than poisoning them with slug pellets, which most people wouldn't bat an eyelid at.

    Pretty much all animal consumption leads to some form of animal cruelty. This one, I believe is pretty low down on that list.

    Are you vegan or vegetarian Skylops?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Are you vegan or vegetarian Skylops?
    Or a Buddhist? TBR, have you considered the use of a miniture humane killer? I suppose the problem with that is whenever you apply it to the head of your intended snail victim, he'd disappear?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    You know, it isn't really been done for the sake of convenience!

    As regards your cruelty claim, they are deliberately done this way so they are unconscious when cooked.

    I'd say it is a lot less cruel than poisoning them with slug pellets, which most people wouldn't bat an eyelid at.

    Pretty much all animal consumption leads to some form of animal cruelty. This one, I believe is pretty low down on that list.

    Are you vegan or vegetarian Skylops?

    Far from it,. The cruelty I was reffering to was the one weeks forced vegetarianism for the poor snail. Does a dying snail not deserve a last decent meal?

    No, Im not Buddhist either.

    Matter of interest why do you have to 'purge' them, but things like Mussels and sea food, you can just drop in the pot and eat them? Or in the case of Oysters, bypass the pot and just pop them in your mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    The purge does involve the snail eating - either carrot or oatmeal. I'd guess that snail diet is all vegetarian. As they dine on both fresh and decaying plant matter, the contents of a snails digestive tract could be toxic if consumed in large quantities. So purging is necessary.

    Bivalve molluscs are filter feeders - eating microscopic animals like plankton. The digestive tract is not necessarily a problem, but an oyster or mussel will filter the bad bacteria from the environment as well as the good. I remember being warned years ago about picking mussels from polluted beaches in the days before the European waste water regulations were in force.


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