Anyone who Buys Haye-Harrison/Pacquiao-Margarito is a clown...

richierichballs

Firstly David Haye is clearly ducking the Klitschko's and fighting a man with a record of 27-4,
He's 38 years old and has done absolutely NOTHING to deserve a shot at Haye.
To top it off he ain't even the top heavyweight in England is ranked #42 by Boxrec!

Pacquiao-Margarito is an even bigger joke!
How in the hell can boxing commissions keep sanctioning these world title fights to be at Catchweights?
Neither men have done ANYTHING at all to be entitled to a world title fight at 154,
To top it all off, Pacquiao drags in ANOTHER catchweight!
He originally got the fight at 151, But Now they want it at 149!!!!
To what I have been reading they have agreed to 150.....

Thats closer to the Welterweight limit then it is the Light Middleweight limit of 154.
A convicted Cheater, who should NEVER of been alot in a boxing ring again is getting the biggest payday of his career.
Why? Because he got Knocked out by Shane Mosley and looked like a bum against a nobody in Garcia.

These two fights are a Pure example of the state of boxing today and there is no way in hell I will line the pockets of these absolute dickheads...
Especially, Bob Arum and Margarito.

seadnamac

richierichballs wrote: »

Firstly David Haye is clearly ducking the Klitschko's and fighting a man with a record of 27-4,
He's 38 years old and has done absolutely NOTHING to deserve a shot at Haye.
To top it off he ain't even the top heavyweight in England is ranked #42 by Boxrec!

Pacquiao-Margarito is an even bigger joke!
How in the hell can boxing commissions keep sanctioning these world title fights to be at Catchweights?
Neither men have done ANYTHING at all to be entitled to a world title fight at 154,
To top it all off, Pacquiao drags in ANOTHER catchweight!
He originally got the fight at 151, But Now they want it at 149!!!!
To what I have been reading they have agreed to 150.....

Thats closer to the Welterweight limit then it is the Light Middleweight limit of 154.
A convicted Cheater, who should NEVER of been alot in a boxing ring again is getting the biggest payday of his career.
Why? Because he got Knocked out by Shane Mosley and looked like a bum against a nobody in Garcia.

These two fights are a Pure example of the state of boxing today and there is no way in hell I will line the pockets of these absolute dickheads...
Especially, Bob Arum and Margarito.

The fact that Pacquaio has ended up fighting Margarito because Duckweather continues to find any reason to duck him is a pure example of the state of boxing today.

richierichballs

seadnamac wrote: »

The fact that Pacquaio has ended up fighting Margarito because Duckweather continues to find any reason to duck him is a pure example of the state of boxing today.

Why not fight a real Champion at 154???
Why not fight at a REAL WEIGHT, No world title fight should be allowed take place at a catchweight, simple as.

walshb

No, a world title this is not. Boxing is not about quality and real champions, it's about money money money. Pacman will destroy Margarito. Just like Floyd fighting JMM and a past it Mosley, it's all down to max reward for as little risk.
I don't blame them one bit. I'd do th same.

The Davestator

Well buy me a big red nose and call me a clown because I'm looking forward to both of them!

Any excuse to have a few lads over, some beers and boxing

siochain

exactly why the UFC is taking over. All fighers are contracted to the UFC so they decide the match ups and its in there best intrest of the fans.

I'm sad to say Managers, promoters and $'s have fecked up boxing.

I won't pay for either to watch live, will watch the next and I'm looking foward to seeing Pacquiao as he one class boxer.

Manc-Red

I'm lucky I can view these for free on the system I have here in the house - you'd get sick the amount of channels show these without having these on PPV, around Europe.

As the OP says, these fights are not anywhere need the standards of old in regards a big PPV draw...

These fights should be on a monthly sub channel such as Sky or Setanta.

Sales wont be anything to be gloating about in the papers the Monday after.

Manc-Red

walshb wrote: »

No, a world title this is not. Boxing is not about quality and real champions, it's about money money money. Pacman will destroy Margarito. Just like Floyd fighting JMM and a past it Mosley, it's all down to max reward for as little risk.
I don't blame them one bit. I'd do th same.

The bubble will burst with this though, ye cant expect a real boxing fan to keep buying the standard of fights thats on offer on PPV for these prices...

richierichballs

walshb wrote: »

No, a world title this is not. Boxing is not about quality and real champions, it's about money money money. Pacman will destroy Margarito. Just like Floyd fighting JMM and a past it Mosley, it's all down to max reward for as little risk.
I don't blame them one bit. I'd do th same.

How is Mayweather fighting Mosley or Marquez anything like this?

Yeah Mayweather fought Marquez at a catchweight was there a title involved? No.

Shane Mosley was number WW in the divison when Floyd fought him,
And If I remember correctly you where slamming Floyd for "ducking" Mosley,
Then when he finally fights him "He's too old."

walshb

richierichballs wrote: »

How is Mayweather fighting Mosley or Marquez anything like this?

Yeah Mayweather fought Marquez at a catchweight was there a title involved? No.

Shane Mosley was number WW in the divison when Floyd fought him,
And If I remember correctly you where slamming Floyd for "ducking" Mosley,
Then when he finally fights him "He's too old."

I do not recall slamming Floyd for Ducking Mosley. Maybe I did, but I definitely cannot recall it. Anyway, I had Floyd to beat Mosley comfortably, and I was right. I also predicted that Manny would destroy Shane had they fought.

IF we compare the two scenarios. Floyd meeting a smaller man, older man, and past it blown up super feather in JMM vs. Manny meeting a far naturally bigger guy in Margaritio at 150 lbs, when Margarito has been primarily 147 ANYWAY. Call it a catchweight, but remember, Margarito is actually being allowed come in heavier than he did for a lot of his previous bouts...

Don't tell me you are clinging onto Manny and the world title bid. No sane fan buys that.

CorkMan

Gone are the days of Ali-Frazier, Ali-Foreman, Ali-Norton, Duran-Leonard, Leonard-Hearns.

Now those are fights you would pay for. But Jesus, back then you wouldn't have even need PPV. It was all free.

Hitman1

Are they throwing the margarito pacquiao fight on PPV as well. How will they fill the gap between 12 and 2?

Dempsey

CorkMan wrote: »

Gone are the days of Ali-Frazier, Ali-Foreman, Ali-Norton, Duran-Leonard, Leonard-Hearns.

Now those are fights you would pay for. But Jesus, back then you wouldn't have even need PPV. It was all free.

The only thing worse than the current state of affairs in boxing is that nobody with the power to do so wants to change things to improve the sport

maxxie

beats waiting around on mayweather to finish slapping his girlfriend around and step in the ring with a real man! none other than the pound for pound champion manny pacquaio!

Wild_Dogger

Richie , you got brainwashed by the Mayweather media train.

Step back and look again .

Pacq v Margarito is going to be a dinger of a fight ...... I cant wait .

Boricua_Bomber

Hitman1 wrote: »

Are they throwing the margarito pacquiao fight on PPV as well. How will they fill the gap between 12 and 2?

no i doubt it,i'd be surprised if pacquiao/margarito wasn't on sky sports i'm sure it will be.

Bodhisopha

Hitman1 wrote: »

Are they throwing the margarito pacquiao fight on PPV as well. How will they fill the gap between 12 and 2?

I would imagine the Pacquiao fight will be part of the PPV, yes. SKY aren't in the business of giving things away. The mean bastards won't even round our PPV prices down to 20 euro.

cowzerp

Margarito v Pac will be good imo, i think Margarito could be dangerous..

Boricua_Bomber

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I would imagine the Pacquiao fight will be part of the PPV, yes. SKY aren't in the business of giving things away. The mean bastards won't even round our PPV prices down to 20 euro.

mayweather/marquez,pacquiao/cotto,pacquiao/clottey and mayweather/mosley were all sky sports.

Bodhisopha

Boricua_Bomber wrote: »

mayweather/marquez,pacquiao/cotto,pacquiao/clottey and mayweather/mosley were all sky sports.

I know that, but seeing as they have a PPV on that night anyways, i reckon they will throw the Pacquiao fight in as part of the package too. They have done this before.

Boricua_Bomber

Bodhisopha wrote: »

I know that, but seeing as they have a PPV on that night anyways, i reckon they will throw the Pacquiao fight in as part of the package too. They have done this before.

who knows then,maybe even premier sports will pick it up? really hope between them and sky they show all the upcoming fights like Lopez/Marquez,martinez/williams,marquez/katsidis,khan/maidana,hopkins/pascal.

unknown13

Margarito is a criminal in my eyes. He should be in Jail and should be a million miles away from a boxing ring.

If pacquiao can't compete at LMW, he shouldn't fight there. If he won't allow fights to take place at the full weight, the title shouldn't be on the line.

joepenguin

Well 154 is the limit not the target so ive no problem with them callin it a world title by any means. However when you look back at his career that will always be a little cloud hangin over it, these catchweight fights. Doesnt compare with the likes of Armstrong etc but i suppose even if you are being mentioned in the same sentemce as the all time greats you must be doing something right.

Oh and having a world title fight at 151 and 1/4 pounds or whatver they agree on is far more credible than fighting a man that can make featherweight at 147 on the button!!

consultech

It would be nice to see Pacquiao unequivocally retire Margharito in very bad fashion, "for boxing" as it were. I can think of a few better punishments, but that one would be poetically satisfying to watch.

Will Sky be lumping this on to the PPV card? It would make sense from a money point of view. They ordinarily have these fights on SS1, which is great. They have the perfect excuse to group them together though.

I'm actually travelling to cage contender 7 that night, and wouldn't be able to watch H v H anyway (also gonna miss ufc ), but would love to catch the P v M fight somewhere in Belfast (?).

zindicato

no matter what people think bout this fight one things for certain if it was floyd he wouldnt take this fight with margarito catchweight or not.

Boooourns

The only thing wrong with the catchweight business is the fact there's a title on the line, which is wrong of course but there's no real advantage to Manny as Margacheato fought regulary at 147lb anyway so i'd imagine the higher the weight the more it suits the cheat.
Mind you Roach did say he never puts in his boxers into a fight he doesn't think they will win and Manny should be way to quick especially with body shots, he'll land them all night long until Maragcheato crumbles in about the 9th round.

pbffan

Marquez vs Katsidis > Both of these put together.

I'd even stretch so far as to say that Juanma vs Rafa Marquez trumps them.

On paper you may have the all action P4P #1 & The "Saviour of Heavyweight Boxing" fighting, but given the standard of opposition, I wouldn't dream of paying for either of these fights