night vision devices

Sperminator

if anyone is interested, aldi are selling night vision devices from tomorrow sunday the 3rd of Oct. priced €130.

gerrowadat

Don't waste your money tbh, they're not worth the cheap plastic and barely functional optics they're stamped out of.

Shanewalsh

Yeah i seen that but as gerrowadat they are not worth it.

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Sperminator

i'm not saying there great but i have been using mine for two years and not had a problem, but saying that its up to the person if they want them or not. not everybody has €300+ to buy the best NVG's.

gerrowadat

Sperminator wrote: »

i'm not saying there great but i have been using mine for two years and not had a problem, but saying that its up to the person if they want them or not. not everybody has €300+ to buy the best NVG's.

Gen 1 Night Vision is the highest you're allowed have in Ireland -- I have a bushnell set, good quality, would run you about 300 new. I also know someone with the helmet-mounted versions. These are the real deal, kit made for hunters etc. Still ****e.

I'd be interested in how often the pair you've had for 2 years has been used tbh.

NakedDex

I have a set that I bought out of pure whimsy one day. I've yet to find a single situation where choosing it over a flashlight is the better option. I've had it for about two years and it's still on it's first battery.

They're good for fun, but I wouldn't recommend anyone get them and expect them to be useful in a night skirmish.

Ross_Mahon

Should be eating your carrots

bullets

Ross_Mahon wrote: »

Should be eating your carrots

It could be an Urban Myth but the story about Carrots Making you see better could have been down to a story the
RAF released back in WWII. The RAF pilots were flying night missions and managing to shoot down a lot of enemy planes. The RAF on a press release said they fed their Pilots lots of Carrots that aided them to see at night, In reality they were covering up the development of the Radar. At the time they were working on an airbourne version of radar secretly, Carrots were in plentiful supply compared to other vegatables at the time so they a suitable cover story.

On the topic of NV Equipment, people often forget they ruin your natural nightvision which can take a half hour to recover. That funky green NV light in the eyepiece zaps your rhodopsin almost instantly.
(I used a chemical years ago by the same name to develop black and white negatives)

I use my NV equipment looking for the cats out the back gardens. Since I dont want to disturb the neighbours by shining a torch with visible light up the row of gardens the NV works a treat. Its crap at distances over 20-50m but it does catch reflections of animal eyes very well.

Going off topic since I mentioned Natural night vision,
has anyone heard of "Nong Youhui" aka cat boy! a Chinese kid who was born with less protective pigment in his eyes that allow him to see in the dark. His eyes look incredible.

~B

Sperminator

gerrowadat wrote: »

Gen 1 Night Vision is the highest you're allowed have in Ireland -- I have a bushnell set, good quality, would run you about 300 new. I also know someone with the helmet-mounted versions. These are the real deal, kit made for hunters etc. Still ****e.

I'd be interested in how often the pair you've had for 2 years has been used tbh.

i have used them quite often, both in airsoft and for other reasons. as they are a monocular i use my weakest eye to view through. i know you can only get gen 1 here in ireland, i don't need to be reminded of the law.
i'm not saying to anybody that they have to go out and get them, i just put this here for information.

fayer

Sperminator wrote: »

i have used them quite often, both in airsoft and for other reasons. as they are a monocular i use my weakest eye to view through. i know you can only get gen 1 here in ireland, i don't need to be reminded of the law.
i'm not saying to anybody that they have to go out and get them, i just put this here for information.

Its not Irish law, its US law banning the export of anything above gen 3. If you could get gen 200 in ireland it would be perfectly legal.

andy_g

As i said before on the forum and on other forums here on boards. anything over gen 3 here in ireland is meant to be licenced i'll try find the post i scanned a copy of the legislation and licence to and post it here.

hightower1

fayer wrote: »

Its not Irish law, its US law banning the export of anything above gen 3. If you could get gen 200 in ireland it would be perfectly legal.

... unless you mount it on a rifle... besides irish law is a joke, if average joe doesn't know about it nether with average copper joe. I'd be shocked if any garda was even aware on NV restrictions of any other lesser known laws outside public order offenses and road traffic offenses. Sure they had a l96 of mine for 4 weeks with a green laser on it and had no problem at all with it, of coarse after much cries of "wont someone think of the children" here I found they are illegal! The bloody cops didnt even care or know.

drunkmonkey

Why would you need to licence or even not allow night goggles, seems like a very weird law?

bullets

Not sure about Irish Laws on these, but if anyone has more info
and can post a link I would be grateful.
(I already know about the retrictions on NV designed to be mounted to a firearm, but
for specifics on generations I would like to know if there is anything restricted in Ireland)

Gen2 NV gear has been about little old Ireland for years.
Although "I thought" it was the Gen3 stuff that had sales restrictions, but gen2 was ok.
(sales restrictions maybe nothing to do with Irish Law but due to importing/exporting etc
may be difficult to purchase from outside of Ireland)

Night Vision Ireland have been selling gen2 for years.
http://www.nightvision-ireland.com/index.php?cPath=24&osCsid=03e9102887d870436b4639cbba99a98b

Would not spend the money on gen2 though, the newer models
are loosing the green colour and going back to black and white.
and if I had loads of dosh I would get Thermal Imaging gear yum yum.



~B

fayer

andy_g wrote: »

As i said before on the forum and on other forums here on boards. anything over gen 3 here in ireland is meant to be licenced i'll try find the post i scanned a copy of the legislation and licence to and post it here.

The only restriction regarding NV in Ireland is a silly line in the CJA 2006 making an NV device an actual firearm if attached to a real firearm, or is designed to be mounted to a firearm. Irish law dose not define or restrict the generation of NV devices that can be used imported or used in Ireland.

Gatling

I posted the legislation last year in one of the threads on here il link it later when i get a chance ,as fayer said the only issuse is when the NV is mounted to a weapon

fayer

CJA 2006 S.26 (g) (i)

Not hard to find, its be on the IAA site for 3 years.

1st place to find Irish Airsoft Law...

Confusion comes into the mix due to US export compliance law, this is the law that stops PS3's and laptops being sold to Iran and north Korea, are they illegal over here as well now, O Noes!

This must be the 15th thread this has been explained in.

andy_g

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Locked at op's request. if you wish to continue discussion nvg please look for one of the threads still open on the forum.