DIvide and conquer -- media plays private v public

digme

Anyone listening to the bs in the IRISH media today.They're playing off the pubic and private sectors against each other,Hilarious.

Cookie_Monster

again, on no...

its only been happening for the last 20 years...

McTigs

This whole "divide and conquer" is a load of old crap if you ask me.

It usually stems from figures regarding public sector being disclosed, non public sector people being shocked and appalled (with good reason) and public sector reacting with ****e like "cant you see they're trying to turn us against each other to take the heat off themselves, you're playing right into their hands, you're the fools for falling for it"

Bullsh*t

MrDarcy

digme wrote: »

Anyone listening to the bs in the IRISH media today.They're playing off the pubic and private sectors against each other,Hilarious.

TOTALLY disagree with this opinion and always have. There is nobody being played against anyone. What there is is gross industrial unfairness, half a million people out of work and a beligerant congregation of public sector workers backed by unions, negotiating deals that protect their members from the pain and hardship that is being felt on a wholescale basis now by others, (who by the way are paying for it).

The_Honeybadger

McTigs wrote: »

This whole "divide and conquer" is a load of old crap if you ask me.

It usually stems from figures regarding public sector being disclosed, non public sector people being shocked and appalled (with good reason) and public sector reacting with ****e like "cant you see they're trying to turn us against each other to take the heat off themselves, you're playing right into their hands, you're the fools for falling for it"

Bullsh*t

Couldn't agree more, the reason for the divide is that one sector is insulated from reality and feel they should bear no responsibility or make no sacrafice so that we may have some sort of economy in future.The reason this "divide" didn't happen sooner is that during the boom everybody had a job and felt reasonably secure, many felt well off and very content in fact. Very few in the private sector were aware of, nor cared what T & C's the public sector had. Now that the private sector is in dire straits and our economy is collapsing and we are running record budget deficits, people are rightly or wrongly looking at the public sector and saying "they get paid what??". Call it jealousy or whatever, but it is a natural reaction. And I think it is very reasonable for the media to report the frankly disgusting waste of public money across the PS when we are running a 20 billion + deficit.

rumour

MrDarcy wrote: »

TOTALLY disagree with this opinion and always have. There is nobody being played against anyone. What there is is gross industrial unfairness, half a million people out of work and a beligerant congregation of public sector workers backed by unions, negotiating deals that protect their members from the pain and hardship that is being felt on a wholescale scale now by others, (who by the way are paying for it).

I agree with you, but after years of being shouted down for presenting the truth the harsh realities will soon become apparent to all. If anybody thinks the ECB are better than the IMF they are sorely mistaken.

Drumpot

Vested interest groups say that the government tries to pit them off each other. While it suits the government by deflecting attention away from them, its the Unions that massage the public v Private divide more then anybody. Their ignorant stance with relation to the state of the economy (dont reduce costs, just get more loans to sustain pay etc) and delusional economic suggestions make it impossible for the rest of us, outside their protected bubble, not to get angry . .

As soon as anger sets in, since nobody cares who started what, the government get blamed for starting it to deflect any meaningful debate on the wafer thin indeals of the Unions.

Nothing gets debated, everybodys unhappy and nobody gets anything constructive solved . . Except maybe the Unions who frighten the government into making the rest of us keep public service salaries and benefits propped up . .

There is no "attack" on public servants. Their is a financial crisis. Comparing the Irish Government to differant sectors of private sector is futile. Any private sector company struggling financially (like the government) reduces its costs and salaries and employees to fit its situation. What the Union want is the rest of the country to subsidise their employers dire financial status. Its quite simply no differant to bailing out the banks on a differant level. Ignore the harsh reality of the economic state of the country so we can protect a portion of the population at everybody elses expense. There really is no other way of putting it.

digme

Well lads, I'll be back to post in here tomorrow after I read our nations lovely inept media reports for the day.
Cheers