3 Lane's, Junction, Dundalk, Cheeky F*ckers

bob2oo7

Start of Rant

This really really really makes me mad in the mornings....

In Dundalk, heading from Haynestown to the Xerox Junction

The dual carrigeway splits into 3 lanes

Left to take you into Dublin Road North
Straight to take you onto the Bypass
Right to take you onto the Dublin Road South

Im going straight through every morning to work, the traffic gets quite backed up

The right lane is free as not many are taking the right turn at the end.... but people have the cheek to drive down this lane (some indicating right/some not) and then cutting into the middle lane at the last minute when a gap appears and go straight, thus avoiding waiting in the traffic like the rest of us

This drives me f*uckin insane..... queue up like the rest of us

I truly wish there was something I could do... I stay as close to the car in front as possibe to ensure there is no room for someone to jump in ahead of me... but I kinda whish somone would so I could take my anger out on them and not let them in... petty I know but just like people being cheeky on roundabouts (using the right lane to by pass everyone then taking the 2nd exit), this just drives me insane in the morning.

End of Rant

Cookie_Monster

Sandyford has a similar problem coming off the M50, after the roundabout the road splits lane 1 for left, lane 2 for straight, lane 3 and 4 for right but many many people use lane 3 to go straight :mad:

Mc Love

Ha ha I cant believe people wait in the queue when you can just as easily skip - try it, it feels good!

BrianD3

I bet if you drive that route at the same time every morning, it'll be the same f*ckers that you see pulling the same stunt everyday.

I used to get a lift with a fella who would drive up hard shoulders and bus lanes when traffic was queueing at a junction and time it so that he'd cut in as the traffic started to move. He used to "target" HGVs as they'd move away slowly allowing him to easily cut in front. Also used to target women drivers, Micras etc., he never had any trouble getting in. But if anyone ever tried to pull something similar on him he'd go bananas :rolleyes:

bob2oo7

Even saw a bus driver doing it that was dropping students into the college

Cookie_Monster

Mc Love wrote: »

Ha ha I cant believe people wait in the queue when you can just as easily skip - try it, it feels good!

humour fail

and if you actually are being serious I hope you get caught one of these days before you crash into someone who is driving correctly and considerately with a stunt like that

neilthefunkeone

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I hope you get caught one of these days before you crash into someone who is driving correctly and considerately with a stunt like that

Get caught for what??? if its not a solid white line then why cant some one drive up the right hand lane then indicate and move into the left lane IF ITS SAFE TO.. Op said nothing about people dangerously pulling into the lane and cutting people up..

Fook it.. Id do it instead of sitting in traffic for ages..

corktina

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Get caught for what??? if its not a solid white line then why cant some one drive up the right hand lane then indicate and move into the left lane IF ITS SAFE TO.. Op said nothing about people dangerously pulling into the lane and cutting people up..

Fook it.. Id do it instead of sitting in traffic for ages..

Not illegal but not cricket either....:mad:

Cookie_Monster

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Get caught for what???.

to put it politely: being an impatient, inconsiderate person.

BrianD3

neilthefunkeone wrote: »

Get caught for what??? if its not a solid white line then why cant some one drive up the right hand lane then indicate and move into the left lane IF ITS SAFE TO.. Op said nothing about people dangerously pulling into the lane and cutting people up..

Fook it.. Id do it instead of sitting in traffic for ages..

From RSA list of penalty point offences

*Failure to obey requirements at junctions, e.g. not being in the correct lane when turning onto another road

*Failure to comply with traffic lane markings

corktina

BrianD3 wrote: »

From RSA list of penalty point offences

*Failure to obey requirements at junctions, e.g. not being in the correct lane when turning onto another road

*Failure to comply with traffic lane markings

but they moved into the correct lane the OP said and therefore were complyiing...

Voodoomelon

That junction is very dangerous for people breaking red lights, they can be red 2-3 seconds and you often see some lunatic tearing through from the M1 past the Crowne Plaza.

Ever see the pile of stones in the middle of the junction?

biko

Can we train monkeys with sticks to attack these cars?
I see this too in Galway in a couple places, seems to be mostly "important people" in shiny cars that do it.

Mc Love

I love threads like this! There was one on the Limerick city forum too, when there were roadworks on the N18. Very funny reading.

Its simples, if you see a long line of people queing and you know you can drive on a bit further and make your way into the queue, would you do it? I would, doesnt make sense just waiting there.

R.O.R

Mc Love wrote: »

I love threads like this! There was one on the Limerick city forum too, when there were roadworks on the N18. Very funny reading.

Its simples, if you see a long line of people queing and you know you can drive on a bit further and make your way into the queue, would you do it? I would, doesnt make sense just waiting there.

But I was brought up properly, have respect for other road users and more importantly, I'm not a total pr1ck, so I wouldn't do it.

Bonito

Mc Love wrote: »

I love threads like this! There was one on the Limerick city forum too, when there were roadworks on the N18. Very funny reading.

Its simples, if you see a long line of people queing and you know you can drive on a bit further and make your way into the queue, would you do it? I would, doesnt make sense just waiting there.

I hate your kind of attitude. If I have right of way in my lane coming up to a junction, roundabout or a dual lane merging in to a single lane and someone has nerve enough to swing around me and try cut in further down the line, I never let them in.

I keep moving along and the only option they have is to either hit my car by swerving in to the lane anyway or wait 'til someone else lets them in.

corktina

and someone always does let them in.....fools...:mad:

Bonito

corktina wrote: »

and someone always does let them in.....fools...:mad:

They should be left there and subjected to every beep, fingers & wanker signal that's thrown at them that they rightly asked for.

no1beemerfan

I used to hate it when people did it on the express/eazy pass lane when the toll booth was on the M50.

I've a tag and the amount of fe€kers that used to use this lane and try and force their way into the ordinary lane at the last minute used to infuriate me....as most times others will not let them out so you'd be sitting there (on the horn!) waiting for a minute or two.

I'm glad I don't experience this anymore except the odd time on the M7 at Borris-in-Ossory where the motorway ends for the moment and people (usually Jeeps/Vans/BMWs) pass you as the cones start, forcing you to brake hard.

biko

Be warned, this is what happens!

_Kaiser_

To be fair, a lot of the time, the signage/road markings are as clear as mud..

Take the new Blanchardstown/M50 interchange....

Heading outbound from town where the roundabout used to be (Ashtown?) the markings for N3 Cavan change without warning from one lane to the other after the lights, then a 2nd lane reappears at the "old"/main roundabout.

cats.life

biko wrote: »

Be warned, this is what happens!

how did the other driver get out i wonder :rolleyes: oh the back window is a bit open:o

seriouslywhat

i dont see the problem with this what so ever. Why would you que when you can easily move up a bit further and move in when someone either starts too slowly, takes their time or whatever. IF and its a very big IF everyone was ready to move when the car in front moved and actually did so ques wouldnt exist to the extent that they do.
So for me and and any other competent driver who can make the move in when it is safe to do so for the reasons outlined above I dont see why not. Why in hell would I que when I know I dont need to.
I know the junction the op is talking about mental traffic so why not move through it if its safe to do so?
Theres a slip road for Clonee off the M50 that gets clogged at rush hour and same thing I would never que on it because you just keep driving up and near the junction someone ALWAYS slowly starts and you move in easily without any safety issue.
Op I advise you give it a shot. Its really not that difficult. I would suggest that you give out to the people would take 2/5 seconds to move off after the driver in front has moved. They are the reason for your anger.

RandomAccess

Anyone who thinks that is acceptable behavior should realise they are the cause of a lot of road rage, and nobody will defend you when I decide to batter you to death with something blunt and heavy.

Ahhh feels better now..

Alun

seriouslywhat wrote: »

Why in hell would I que when I know I dont need to.

It's all me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me with some people isn't it?

seriouslywhat

RandomAccess wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that is acceptable behavior should realise they are the cause of a lot of road rage, and nobody will defend you when I decide to batter you to death with something blunt and heavy.

Ahhh feels better now..

This is where we differ then as the cause of my road rage is the people who dont move off fast enough.

Thus I pass them out and make my way to work/home without cracking up. They can continue to take their time and eventually start their cars and I will nip in front of them. Everybodies happy.... Well except you maybe.

seriouslywhat

Alun wrote: »

It's all me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me with some people isn't it?

Well yeah it is. If everyone else wants to que pointlessly thats fair enough they can do it.

I however dont like queing and know I will be able to take advantage of someone taking their time starting their cars so I do.

RandomAccess

seriouslywhat wrote: »

This is where we differ then as the cause of my road rage is the people who dont move off fast enough.

Thus I pass them out and make my way to work/home without cracking up. They can continue to take their time and eventually start their cars and I will nip in front of them. Everybodies happy.... Well except you maybe.

Some of us don't like to burn the **** out of our clutch by hovering two feet off the back bumper of the car in front. If traffic is moving slow then its hardly a crime to move up in measures of a car length at a time. Unfortunately some impatient assholes have to ruin it for everyone.

seriouslywhat

RandomAccess wrote: »

Some of us don't like to burn the **** out of our clutch by hovering two feet off the back bumper of the car in front. If traffic is moving slow then its hardly a crime to move up in measures of a car length at a time. Unfortunately some impatient assholes have to ruin it for everyone.

theres a HUGE difference in burning a clutch and taking so long you could let a bus in! :rolleyes:

kerten

Simple questions in different forms for non-queue guys:

Do you delay rest of the queue while you are safely cutting in front of slow drivers in the queue ?

Do these "slow to start drivers" moves at same speed regardless you are cutting in or not ?

Do you force them to slow down their start more than normal when you cut in front them ?

Do you cut in a shop queue in front of elderly lady or mother with kids when they move slowly to cashier if you gonna be able to complete your buy before she reaches ? No because you are so scared of to be warned for this action and you don't have your armor with steering wheel on you.

IMHO, it is just disrespectful behaviour of smart asses in traffic. Please don't defend this.

Rant over

markc1184

Same thing happens in Drogheda everyday on the dual carraigeway. You'll even get a lot of cars that will pull out of the traffic heading forward, into the left turning lane which is flowing with a green light and then they'll sit a few metres back from the lights trying to indicate back in and blocking everyone else trying to turn left!! Very annoying at times!

seriouslywhat

kerten wrote: »

Simple questions in different forms for non-queue guys:

Do you delay rest of the queue while you are safely cutting in front of slow drivers in the queue ?

Would you sit behind a car on a 60 zone doing 30? Why should I (or anyone else) sit behind someone who wont move due to not looking in front of them, on their phone, doing their nails etc, etc, etc....

Do these "slow to start drivers" moves at same speed regardless you are cutting in or not ?

That sentance doesnt even make sense.:rolleyes:

Do you force them to slow down their start more than normal when you cut in front them ?

I only cut in when its safe to do so ie someones half asleep at the wheel. Happens ALL THE TIME.

Do you cut in a shop queue in front of elderly lady or mother with kids when they move slowly to cashier if you gonna be able to complete your buy before she reaches ? No because you are so scared of to be warned for this action and you don't have your armor with steering wheel on you.

Completely different and you know it.

IMHO, it is just disrespectful behaviour of smart asses in traffic. Please don't defend this.

Completely disagree. And as for not defending, you really dont understand the idea of a forum do you. Debate, etc..

You must be getting dizzy up there on your high horse

Rant over

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kerten

Ok, Lets debate

seriouslywhat wrote: »

Would you sit behind a car on a 60 zone doing 30? Why should I (or anyone else) sit behind someone who wont move due to not looking in front of them, on their phone, doing their nails etc, etc, etc....

No I don't wait and overtake it when it is safe. But I don't force oncoming traffic to slow down for me or delay queue behind me. if oncoming traffic needs to slow down(not a emergency brake) a little bit during my overtaking, can it be counted safe and legal as your cut in habit ?

seriouslywhat wrote: »

Do these "slow to start drivers" moves at same speed regardless you are cutting in or not ?

That sentance doesnt even make sense.

Do you force them to slow down their start more than normal when you cut in front them ?

I only cut in when its safe to do so ie someones half asleep at the wheel. Happens ALL THE TIME.

this nonsense sentence and other one is asking same. You already answered second one. I assume you will wait 15 minutes in your lane for safety if you can't find these "slow to start" drivers one day or

seriouslywhat wrote: »

Do you cut in a shop queue in front of elderly lady or mother with kids when they move slowly to cashier if you gonna be able to complete your buy before she reaches ? No because you are so scared of to be warned for this action and you don't have your armor with steering wheel on you.

Completely different and you know it.

I don't see any difference in two situation about delaying rest of the queue. Let's say there is a slow to start driver who let you cut in, if you didn't cut in as a first car in the queue and enter to roundabout before slow to start driver reaches roundabout, it means you occupied one car space in the queue before roundabout entrance. So rest of the queue behind "slow to start" driver will wait for cars in front them + your car before entering roundabout. This is the delay I am pointing.


I am sorry for the rant if it disturbs you but you are describing a disrespectful behaviour as a completely normal driving habit.

But it is not illegal so of course you can continue to do it. It is all slow to start drivers fault at the end. if we queue people let non-queue people to cut in, they will do it forever. Just make them wait in their lane forever

seriouslywhat

kerten wrote: »

Ok, Lets debate




No I don't wait and overtake it when it is safe. But I don't force oncoming traffic to slow down for me or delay queue behind me. if oncoming traffic needs to slow down(not a emergency brake) a little bit during my overtaking, can it be counted safe and legal as your cut in habit ?

First off isnt it nice that you now decide to debate when you know you look quite silly with your previous comments.

Anyway lets have a look at these ones.

That first point makes no sense to me. Do you want to try that one again only this time take your time and make it comprehensible :rolleyes:

this nonsense sentence and other one is asking same. You already answered second one. I assume you will wait 15 minutes in your lane for safety if you can't find these "slow to start" drivers one day or

Again hard to understand what your trying to get across here but I think you mean that how do I know I'll get in safely? Its fairly simple. If you start far enough back and see a long line of traffic you will get a spot somewhere along the line. I dont necessarily mean right at the top. Even gaining 5 mins worth of traffic is something. I dont jump in and out. I continue until I feel its safe and then take my new spot up the line. Simple.

I don't see any difference in two situation about delaying rest of the queue. Let's say there is a slow to start driver who let you cut in, if you didn't cut in as a first car in the queue and enter to roundabout before slow to start driver reaches roundabout, it means you occupied one car space in the queue before roundabout entrance. So rest of the queue behind "slow to start" driver will wait for cars in front them + your car before entering roundabout. This is the delay I am pointing.

Again not a brilliantly worded paragraph but my reading of what your attempting to say is that I slow the rest of the line down.

My answer to that is thats not my problem. Selfish but true. I have a life to live and if I can shorten my trip I will once it safe to do so.

I am sorry for the rant if it disturbs you but you are describing a disrespectful behaviour as a completely normal driving habit.

But it is not illegal so of course you can continue to do it. It is all slow to start drivers fault at the end. if we queue people let non-queue people to cut in, they will do it forever. Just make them wait in their lane forever

You are entitled to your rant. That said I believe its just that, a rant. I dont think you are correct in anything you say other than yes it is completely legal for me to do exactly what I am doing and I will continue to do so.

On the other hand I hope you enjoy waiting a few cars back. Lets say a half and hour wait of cars back.

kerten

seriouslywhat wrote: »

First off isnt it nice that you now decide to debate when you know you look quite silly with your previous comments.

Interestingly, you are the only one who thinks what I say is silly in this forum topic but no problem. I don't see any inconsistency in my two posts here. I tried to give different examples of delaying people via disrespectful driving behaviour.

Funnily we agreed on my silly point here.

I'll use less word this time

I never said you are cutting in dangerously, I said cutting into middle of the queue delays rest of the queue and this is a disrespectful behaviour.

And you agreed on this one as just a "selfish behaviour". No more argument here.

I really wonder why isn't your "I have a life to live so I don't care rest " logic doesn't apply to an atm/shop queue. I think it is not very safe to do so as in traffic

No worries, I will be waiting with other silly people on the queue and you can feel better by remembering that every time you reach your destination earlier. All these silly people can't cut in to spaces in queues like you can because of lack of driving skills. Enjoy it !

I won't post any other silly comment to this topic.

Cookie_Monster

happened to me today at this junction, I hate it. people always try to cut in from the right which becomes a right turn only just after. map

I was first stopped at the lights in the left hand lane and some bint in a Santa fe bypasses a load of traffic and flicks on the left indicator and sits half in front of my over the stop line :rolleyes:

having none of it and simply ignored her. got beeping and abuse for refusing to let her barge in :mad:

Paparazzo

I remember people doing it on the N2 approach to the M50, the people that píss me off even more are the idiots that let them in! WHY! :mad:

Mc Love wrote: »

I love threads like this! There was one on the Limerick city forum too, when there were roadworks on the N18. Very funny reading.

Its simples, if you see a long line of people queing and you know you can drive on a bit further and make your way into the queue, would you do it? I would, doesnt make sense just waiting there.

seriouslywhat wrote: »

i dont see the problem with this what so ever. Why would you que when you can easily move up a bit further and move in when someone either starts too slowly, takes their time or whatever. IF and its a very big IF everyone was ready to move when the car in front moved and actually did so ques wouldnt exist to the extent that they do.
So for me and and any other competent driver who can make the move in when it is safe to do so for the reasons outlined above I dont see why not. Why in hell would I que when I know I dont need to.
I know the junction the op is talking about mental traffic so why not move through it if its safe to do so?
Theres a slip road for Clonee off the M50 that gets clogged at rush hour and same thing I would never que on it because you just keep driving up and near the junction someone ALWAYS slowly starts and you move in easily without any safety issue.
Op I advise you give it a shot. Its really not that difficult. I would suggest that you give out to the people would take 2/5 seconds to move off after the driver in front has moved. They are the reason for your anger.

So if you walk into a shop/bank/supermarket do you walk straight to the front of the queue? After all, it makes no sense waiting at the back. Why would you wait when you can walk to the front of the queue?
It's the exact same thing, and if someone did it in a shop you'd think they're an ignorant fúcker, so that's what people will think of you doing it in traffic. The only difference is, you're afraid of doing it when people can confront you, but you're safe in your metal cage.

Voodoomelon

A similar thing happens at the large roundabout on the Avenue Road in Dundalk beside Atlantic, traffic can get backed up 20-30 cars back down the bypass. But you can nip down the inside of traffic queuing in the left lane (very few people queue in the right lane) go around the roundabout 360 degrees and skip the whole thing.

Not selfish like the original post, but gets the job done.

bob2oo7

Paparazzo wrote: »

I remember people doing it on the N2 approach to the M50, the people that píss me off even more are the idiots that let them in! WHY! :mad:




So if you walk into a shop/bank/supermarket do you walk straight to the front of the queue? After all, it makes no sense waiting at the back. Why would you wait when you can walk to the front of the queue?
It's the exact same thing, and if someone did it in a shop you'd think they're an ignorant fúcker, so that's what people will think of you doing it in traffic. The only difference is, you're afraid of doing it when people can confront you, but you're safe in your metal cage.

Great point

I bet you wouldnt do this in these situations for fear of a backlash for the people in the queue.... but in a car you fee safe doing it

A taxi did it this morning and nobody let him in.... I got some sort of enjoyment waving at him out my window as I drove past

But so many other cars got in...I wouldnt mind following some of them into the college and letting down some tyres..... Karma is a b!tch

mecanoman

Its very annoying. Happens going to Dun Drum most mornings,

"Not nice people or Assholes" as i call them wait till the very last minute

then swing into the left lane. I'm just waiting for a very road rage case or

bad crash one of theses mornings.

blingrhino

and back to the original thread

I was in that q yesterday bob -it was really heavy around 9am.
i saw the same suspects, mainly students going to the collage in crappy cars cutting in at the last moment and in the side entrance to the collage.
goes on all the time but yesterday your right ther was loads of them.
I`m not giving out about the driving, but its just bad manners.
rant rant.....

Scottie99

I remember some years ago, some cheeky fecker trying to FORCE his way in front of me after I was queuing some time. I was driving a HGV;) Lets just say he had a new design down the side of his car:p

Mc Love

Voodoomelon wrote: »

A similar thing happens at the large roundabout on the Avenue Road in Dundalk beside Atlantic, traffic can get backed up 20-30 cars back down the bypass. But you can nip down the inside of traffic queuing in the left lane (very few people queue in the right lane) go around the roundabout 360 degrees and skip the whole thing.

Not selfish like the original post, but gets the job done.

Was just about to say the very same thing! Do this nearly always and its just the same as skipping the queue but more often than not, its more effective!

Are the patient queuers in this thread honestly going to say they wouldnt do this at a roundabout?

opinion guy

bob2oo7 wrote: »

Start of Rant

This really really really makes me mad in the mornings....

In Dundalk, heading from Haynestown to the Xerox Junction

The dual carrigeway splits into 3 lanes

Left to take you into Dublin Road North
Straight to take you onto the Bypass
Right to take you onto the Dublin Road South

Im going straight through every morning to work, the traffic gets quite backed up

The right lane is free as not many are taking the right turn at the end.... but people have the cheek to drive down this lane (some indicating right/some not) and then cutting into the middle lane at the last minute when a gap appears and go straight, thus avoiding waiting in the traffic like the rest of us

This drives me f*uckin insane..... queue up like the rest of us

I truly wish there was something I could do... I stay as close to the car in front as possibe to ensure there is no room for someone to jump in ahead of me... but I kinda whish somone would so I could take my anger out on them and not let them in... petty I know but just like people being cheeky on roundabouts (using the right lane to by pass everyone then taking the 2nd exit), this just drives me insane in the morning.

End of Rant

Eh whatever about the issue at hand the overtones of D-Fens from the movie Falling Down in this post are more than a little scary!

Seth Brundle

Looking at traffic on the M50 doing this, it is only a matter of time before someone dies.
Cars, vans and trucks feel entitled to suddenly stop in a lane of live traffic (often without looking in mirrors) whilst they have their left indicator on.

Funny enough they never try and pull in front of me (possibly because of no gap or more likely they assume BMW drivers are all ignorant tossers). However, I've lost count of the number of times I've had to wince expecting to see a view of a serious car crash that would feature on that evenings news!