Mosquera positive too?

cantalach

Possibly just a rumour but this has been picked up by various cycling bloggers/twitterati in the last few minutes...

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10328

RobFowl

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=31033

Can anyone speak Spanish??

Mosquera, positivo en la Vuelta (Ampliación)

Ezequiel Mosquera, segundo en la última Vuelta a España, y otro corredor del Xacobeo Galicia dieron positivo en la última Vuelta a España, según ha adelantado la Cadena Ser y ha confirmado BICICICLISMO.

Mosquera no ha recibido notificación alguna, pero, según han revelado fuentes de toda solvencia a BICICICLISMO, el positivo existe, así como de otro compañero de equipo.

El ciclista gallego, de 34 años, había firmado la Vuelta de su vida, segundo tras Vicenzo Nibali, y había firmado un suculento contrato para los dos próximos años con el Vacansoleil holandés.

Courtesy of Google

Spanish to English translation
Mosquera, positive in the Vuelta (Extension)

Ezequiel Mosquera, second in the last Tour of Spain, and other Xacobeo Galicia rider tested positive in the last Tour of Spain, according to Cadena Ser advance and confirmed BICICICLISMO.

Mosquera has not received notice, but sources have revealed all BICICICLISMO solvency, there is positive and another teammate.

The Galician rider, 34, had signed the Tour of his life, second by Vicenzo Nibali, and had signed a succulent contract for the next two years with the Dutch Vacansoleil.

Chips Lovell

Linky. Cadena Ser, a big Spanish radio station, are reporting it too. Another Xacobeo Galicia rider is meant to have tested positive too.

EDIT: Rob beat me this time!

cantalach

Google can speak Spanish...sort of:

Mosquera, positive in the Vuelta (Extension)

Ezequiel Mosquera, second in the last Tour of Spain, and other Xacobeo Galicia rider tested positive in the last Tour of Spain, according to Cadena Ser advance and confirmed BICICICLISMO.

Mosquera has not received notice, but sources have revealed all BICICICLISMO solvency, there is positive and another teammate.

The Galician rider, 34, had signed the Tour of his life, second by Vicenzo Nibali, and had signed a succulent contract for the next two years with the Dutch Vacansoleil.

seamus

RobFowl wrote: »

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=31033

Can anyone speak Spanish??

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biciciclismo.com%2Fcas%2Fsite%2Fnoticias-ficha.asp%3Fid%3D31033

ednwireland

google translate

Spanish to English translation
Mosquera, positive in the Vuelta (Extension)

Ezequiel Mosquera, second in the last Tour of Spain, and other Xacobeo Galicia rider tested positive in the last Tour of Spain, according to Cadena Ser advance and confirmed BICICICLISMO.

Mosquera has not received notice, but sources have revealed all BICICICLISMO solvency, there is positive and another teammate.

The Galician rider, 34, had signed the Tour of his life, second by Vicenzo Nibali, and had signed a succulent contract for the next two years with the Vacansoleil

cantalach

Woohoo! Cantalach wins the Google Translate sprint!

ednwireland

cantalach wrote: »

Woohoo! Cantalach wins the Google Translate sprint!

BS we got the same time (within a bike length anyway)

RobFowl

el tonto wrote: »

EDIT: Rob beat me this time!

First time, Woo-Hoo

Beasty

Rob wins - the rest of you were 2 minutes dowm

A "succulent contract". Mmmmm...very tasty.

ednwireland

Beasty wrote: »

A "succulent contract". Mmmmm...very tasty.

isnt that what contador was eating as well

mgmt

Spanish radio reporting positive tests for two Xacobeo riders

Spanish radio station Cadena SER is reporting that Vuelta a España runner-up Ezequiel Mosquera tested positive during the race together with one of his Xacobeo-Galicia team-mates.

Speaking on his show this morning, distinguished Cadena SER presenter José Ramón De la Morena revealed: “Two more cases of possible positive are going to be made public today. One of them is the cyclist Ezequiel Mosquera from the Xacobeo team and the other is from the same team.”

Cyclingnews will bring you more on the story as it develops.

Good news for Roche

RobFowl

mgmt wrote: »

Good news for Roche

He could win the race yet......

Chips Lovell

Vacan-hooray!

RobFowl

From Shane Stokes

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5839/Vuelta-a-Espana-runner-up-Ezequiel-Mosquera-and-team-mate-reported-as-positive.aspx

RobFowl

el tonto wrote: »

Vacan-hooray!

Don't worry they've still got Ricco !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx64_N4AA04

ROK ON

I can now add my Xacabeo jersey to the list of infamous Spanish jerseys that I own (Reynolds, Liberty Segurus).
If I buy an Once, Caisse, Festina jerseys I will be able to cycle for 6 days in Spanish doping kit :-)

ednwireland

ROK ON wrote: »

I can now add my Xacabeo jersey to the list of infamous Spanish jerseys that I own (Reynolds, Liberty Segurus).
If I buy an Once, Caisse, Festina jerseys I will be able to cycle for 6 days in Spanish doping kit :-)

cool was thinking when are all the doping jerseys going to be on clearout

Chips Lovell

David Garcia is the second rider.

manwithaplan

ROK ON wrote: »

I can now add my Xacabeo jersey to the list of infamous Spanish jerseys that I own (Reynolds, Liberty Segurus).
If I buy an Once, Caisse, Festina jerseys I will be able to cycle for 6 days in Spanish doping kit :-)

I like vintage italian jerseys for "la bomba" goodness. Bianchi, Legnano, Salvarani - doping you can be nostalgic about.

NickDrake

This is brilliant. Remember watching the mountain stages and going how the hell is an average rider like Mosquera pulling this out of the bag.

And his age too!! And the TT he put in.

What a dirty Spanish cheat.

Go on the Roche

niceonetom

I've managed to more or less suppress the part of my brain that shouts "DOPER" while watching cycling - it's the only way I can enjoy it, and I do. I'm happy to do my cynicism after the race. Mosquera was clearly taking the piss. I think at his age the risk of a ban must seem small beer compared to glory of a good performance in his home GT.

ROK ON wrote: »

I can now add my Xacabeo jersey to the list of infamous Spanish jerseys that I own (Reynolds, Liberty Segurus).
If I buy an Once, Caisse, Festina jerseys I will be able to cycle for 6 days in Spanish doping kit :-)

The real challenge would be to fill out your cycling wardrobe with Spanish kit without doping associations.

Smithzer

I wonder will Paddy Power now pay me for my Rodriguez E/W now....... somehow I dont think so.

:mad:

NickDrake

Blood expander to lower Hemocrit and prevent detection of EPO is what the cheats were caught with. Same as Sevilla a few weeks back. ANOTHER Spanish rider

Quigs Snr

Mosquera positive - great result for me. I bet someone a tenner that he would be done, I didn't expect to claim it so soon though.

Whatever he was taking it was great though on that last mountain stage, gotta get me some of that.

alfalad

NickDrake wrote: »

Blood expander to lower Hemocrit and prevent detection of EPO is what the cheats were caught with. Same as Sevilla a few weeks back. ANOTHER Spanish rider

How does the blood expander work?

TheBlaaMan

Interesting angle on what they may have been up to.........sounds ropey and dangerous
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hes-positives-could-be-linked-to-epo-use-doctor-says

RobFowl

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

Interesting angle on what they may have been up to.........sounds ropey and dangerous
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/hes-positives-could-be-linked-to-epo-use-doctor-says

Wouldn't pay much attention to that quack

Chips Lovell

Would volume expanders like that whack up your blood pressure significantly?

Lumen

el tonto wrote: »

Would volume expanders like that whack up your blood pressure significantly?

Maybe take a vasodilator to bring it back down again and keep those clots away? Viagra or something.

Chips Lovell

Lumen wrote: »

Maybe take a vasodilator to bring it back down again and keep those clots away? Viagra or something.

You'll have to take something else to get rid of the raging protrusion then.

RobFowl

el tonto wrote: »

Would volume expanders like that whack up your blood pressure significantly?

If it's given too quickly it would for a period of maybe an hour or two. Really designed to replace blood loss so there is little research on the effects of rapid transfusion into fit healthy cyclists..
I suspect that the blood transfusion is given then the volume expander immediately after.
Given the nature of stage races and the limited time available I suspect they give them far too quickly to get it finished with and to avoid detection.
Really the athletes are at fault but the doctors who administer this sort of muck deserve an equal if not more severe sanction.

drogdub

One thing that sticks out in my head is that David Harmon kept saying that Mosquera only really raced domestically, and with Spains record of reluctance to properly investigate doping I kept thinking, he was dropping hints that he thought there was more going on that met the eye,

Chips Lovell

Five more Spanish riders could be in trouble for showing irregular blood profiles.

Hail 2 Da Thief

^^^ Christ, where does it end!

Lumen

el tonto wrote: »

Five more Spanish riders could be in trouble for showing irregular blood profiles.

Stop with your jibber-jabber:

The figures say that Spain is about average in positive doping cases in the world.

See, they just need to test less. No positives, no problem!

hydroxyethyl starch (HES), which is suspected as an EPO masking agent.

From my limited knowledge (mostly gained on this thread) HES does not mask EPO, it masks the effects of using EPO, or autologous blood transfusions, or altitude training, or hypobaric chambers, or dehydration, some of which are legal.

Is HES on the banned list? Arguably it could be used to bring down a naturally high haematocrit level to within the limit for competition. :pac:

Diarmuid

AFAIK HES can only be administered IV , which is banned.

Chips Lovell

Lumen wrote: »

Arguably it could be used to bring down a naturally high haematocrit level to within the limit for competition. :pac:

I take it that's going to be your excuse when you test positive in the club league next year.

Muckers

Read Paul Kimmages "Rough ride". Doping was rampant 20 years ago and it would be foolish to think its any different today.

Chips Lovell

Looks like he's getting a two year ban.

RobFowl

Hope his doctors get a ban as well.......

sy

RobFowl wrote: »

Hope his doctors get a ban as well.......

+1

Sick of these so called professionals getting away with no sanctions.

Chips Lovell

You do need the riders to sing on who gave them the drugs though. Most don't.

ROK ON

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

You do need the riders to sing on who gave them the drugs though. Most don't.

That I do not understand.

I mean, I completely understand why say a junkie or dealer does not rat out his supplier. His life is forfeit.

The only reason for a pro athlete not to rat on a supplier in my view is that
(1) he wants to use again after the ban,
(2) there is some sort of financial incentive to keep quiet or

(3) His life is forfeit????

What am I missing here?

Chips Lovell

I think it's none of the above.

What we know about doping, based on the police investigations to date and what's trickled out in the media is that there are a number of large rings involving riders fro multiple teams.

So if you shop your doctor, you're depriving a large group of riders of their supplier. That's going to make you very unpopular in the peloton and impossible unemployable when your ban's up.