mink let loose

.17hmr

http://www.highlandradio.com/2010/09/28/hundreds-of-minks-escape-in-ardara/

Well lads you were on about mink ,some muppit thought that we in donegal had'nt got enough mink and let out a few to meny,fecking twits it will take years to clean up this mess:mad:

Guill

Retards, that many mink in a small area will cause havoc for fishermen and fowl/gamekeepers.

poulo6.5

looks like some tree huger thought he would do the cute innocent fluffy little mink out to help the indigenous creatures gather up some food and all live happily ever after in a little cave like a Disney movie:rolleyes:

more like the mink will eat all the indigenous birds and small mammals. but it was a fair mistake i'm sure they meant well

terminator2

magnum trap co ..........#116 bodygrip £9.00 sterling +p&p the treehuggers should be made pay for them

Feargal as Luimneach

This happens too often:(. If mink farms cannot provide adequate security to prevent fools releasing them they should be shut down.

weldersmask

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

This happens too often:(. If mink farms cannot provide adequate security to prevent fools releasing them they should be shut down.

good job you don't apply the same principle to our banking system then isn't it :P

meathstevie

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

This happens too often:(. If mink farms cannot provide adequate security to prevent fools releasing them they should be shut down.

Feargal, I don't like to sound harsh but that statement is pure bull manure.

Indeed it happens too often that a bunch of so called animal lovers - in reality criminals who commit the offences of burglary and/or criminal damage -go and destroy someone's legitimate business and in the meantime cause massive damage to surrounding wildlife for as long as it takes to destroy the escaped mink which will probably never be completely successful.

It's not a matter of providing security, it's a matter of a bunch of selfrighteous muppets being determined to be criminals. No amount of
CCTV and alarms is going to change that.

If every business activity that attracts criminal interest should be shut down you may just as well shut down the whole country.

Feargal as Luimneach

meathstevie wrote: »

Feargal, I don't like to sound harsh but that statement is pure bull manure.

Indeed it happens too often that a bunch of so called animal lovers - in reality criminals who commit the offences of burglary and/or criminal damage -go and destroy someone's legitimate business and in the meantime cause massive damage to surrounding wildlife for as long as it takes to destroy the escaped mink which will probably never be completely successful.

It's not a matter of providing security, it's a matter of a bunch of selfrighteous muppets being determined to be criminals. No amount of
CCTV and alarms is going to change that.

If every business activity that attracts criminal interest should be shut down you may just as well shut down the whole country.

At the end of the day mink are being continually released and causing great damage to native wildlife. To stop these releases if it means shutting down theses farms so be it.

meathstevie

An attempt could also be made to start and investigate and prosecute these so called animal lovers. Given what they do they could find themselves facing very serious charges if an investigation was to lead to a prosecution. Organised crime is being very much frowned upon by the courts in this country.

Tackleberrywho

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

At the end of the day mink are being continually released and causing great damage to native wildlife. To stop these releases if it means shutting down theses farms so be it.

Now Now Fergal, What would be next?
Letting cattle out on the road?
Letting out sheep?
Letting deer out of a deer farm?

Them ICABS crowd are anti any form of animal cruelty and some would "say"
Farming any animal for meat is "cruel"

Very few wear Mink these days, however; in cold weather it is a Natural insulator.

Any man made fabric causes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more damage to the eco system (especially any form of polyester etc)

Birdnuts

Oh FFS!! - these people should be jailed and forced to take basic courses in "Ecology for Dummies" on the inside:mad::mad:

homerhop

I dont know why the likes of the ALFa are not classified as an illegal organisation in Ireland.They will more than likely lay clain to this act in time

endasmail

feckin treehuggers
they should be round up and deported

Feargal as Luimneach

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Now Now Fergal, What would be next?
Letting cattle out on the road?
Letting out sheep?
Letting deer out of a deer farm?

Them ICABS crowd are anti any form of animal cruelty and some would "say"
Farming any animal for meat is "cruel"

Very few wear Mink these days, however; in cold weather it is a Natural insulator.

Any man made fabric causes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more damage to the eco system (especially any form of polyester etc)

Does releasing cattle, sheep, deer cause great enviromental damage?
No it doesn't. Bad example

I just checked the ICABS website. It says nothing about banning farming for meat.

The amount of resources needed to produce one mink pelt is far greater than needed to produce a polyester jumper:rolleyes:

mink_man

I'm not safe anymore!! :eek::eek:

homerhop

Fergal do you not think those who are releasing the mink are far more accountable than the mink farms?

flutered

i have seen them crossing the road twice in the last two weeks near my place, my hens are safely locked in i hope.

Birdnuts

homerhop wrote: »

Fergal do you not think those who are releasing the mink are far more accountable than the mink farms?

I'd like to see the back of both!! - ladies should embrace the fox, just ask John from Galway;)

No6

endasmail wrote: »

feckin treehuggers
they should be round up and deported

Just look in the woods they'll be the one hugging the trees!! but surely it is the feckers with the wire cutters who should be jailed!!.

Sparks

Now would be the time to be writing into the various letters-to-the-editor pages folks...

• Examiner
• Irish Times
• Irish Independent

Sparks

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

At the end of the day mink are being continually released and causing great damage to native wildlife. To stop these releases if it means shutting down theses farms so be it.

Utter collusive horse hockey FaL.
If we did that, then all anyone would need to to get their way would be to act illegally repeatedly.

Terrier

Irish Independent today
ANIMAL liberation 'terrorists' are being blamed for the release of thousands of farmed mink into the wild.
Desperate efforts were under way yesterday to recapture up to 5,000 mink, which dispersed into the surrounding countryside following a weekend break-in at a farm near Ardara in south-west Donegal.
Last night, anglers and environmentalists feared an environmental disaster as the release coincided with salmon spawning in nearby salmon-rich rivers such as the Owenea and the Glen.


Connie Anderson, the co-director of the farm, which has upwards of 52,000 mink in captivity, said that large numbers had been recaptured since the break-in on Saturday night.
"We have been working flat out. We have had traps out since Sunday morning. Family, friends and neighbours have come out to help us as well as the local gun clubs, and we have managed to catch a lot," he said.
Raiders used wire cutters to access the remote farm and open more than 1,000 cages containing roughly 5,000 mink.
"Many stayed in the cages. A lot went out in the compound, but some went out the gates," he said. He predicted that a lot of the escaped animals would perish while those that survived would "cause havoc" to poultry and wildlife.


Yesterday, residents in the wider area were reporting sightings as far as 10 kilometres away. Some are ending up dead along the roads and people are discovering them in gardens and outhouses.
Mr Anderson, who revealed that the farm had been the subject of two protests by animal rights activists last year, described it as an act of pure vandalism.
"It is an act of terrorism. They are animal terrorists. What else would you call them? It was pure sabotage and totally uncalled for, especially cutting the wire and opening the gates. That was just wrong," he said.
The incident is under investigation by the Garda and has been reported to the Department of Agriculture.
A senior garda source confirmed that the matter is under investigation but said there was no indication from the break-in as to who may have been responsible.
Noel Carr, secretary of Slieve League Angling Club, said the release could not have happened at a worse time for salmon fishermen.
"A terrible environmental problem has been unleashed on the whole of south-west Donegal. The fish are in the pools for spawning and they are an easy target for the mink," he said.
Crisis

He criticised the Department of Agriculture for issuing mink farming licences without any requirement for an emergency plan to deal with such a crisis.
"It is now being left to voluntary angling clubs to deal with the problems this is going to create. We need to stock up on traps and try to catch as many as we can," he said.
There are just five mink farms operating in the Republic but these are expected to be phased out by 2012 under the current Programme for Government.
Anti-fur protesters have claimed responsibility for mass releases of mink from farms across Europe and the US in recent years.

These two were responsible for taking out 10 or more quail and a hen or two before i got the call over the weekend!

johngalway

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

This happens too often:(. If mink farms cannot provide adequate security to prevent fools releasing them they should be shut down.

:rolleyes:

Foolish comment Feargal.

rrpc

You can be pretty damn sure that these people know the damage their actions are causing. For them it's about getting publicity, not about environmental damage. Acceptable collateral damage would be their warped point of view and the kind of reaction that Feargal gave is exactly the result they want to achieve: people calling for the closure of the farms.

Terrier

Irish Times

THE RELEASE of some 5,000 mink from a farm in Co Donegal is being investigated by gardaí while locals search for the hundreds of animals that remain on the loose.
The owners of the mink farm are blaming “animal liberation terrorists” after the animals were freed in what they claim was a deliberate attack.
A Garda spokesman said that a fence on the farm near Meenavalley was damaged by being cut or broken between 1am and 9am on Sunday.
Hundreds of animals are still on the loose from Anderson’s Mink Farm near Ardara and many more have been killed by motorists.
Connie Anderson, co-director of the farm, said it was “a pure act of vandalism or terrorism” and “pure sabotage”. Mr Anderson said those who carried out the attack had no thought for the consequences of their actions. “These people are animal liberation terrorists and had no thought for the mink or for the damage that will be done to other wildlife in the area.”
Some 32,000 mink were in the cages which were cut. “Cutting wire and opening gates was just wrong,” Mr Anderson said. “A lot of the animals stayed in their cages but a lot of others are roaming around the farm. Many did get out the gates and many of those will perish.”

James Morrin of Killybeggs Gun Club said that some 100 mink have been caught alive in traps and local club members expect to round up the remaining animals in the next few days.
Noel Carr, secretary of the Federation of Irish Salmon and Sea-Trout Anglers, said the freed mink could damage local salmon stocks. “The salmon spawning beds are fair game to mink. I am speaking as an angler, but this release will also have a huge effect on tourism in the area.”
He was also concerned at the delay in hearing about the incident and the lack of a plan to deal with problem.
“Mink travel very fast and I amhorrified that nobody was informed. We have lost two or three days of action because we were not told. It confirms our worst fears that there is no action plan for capture or for public awareness on how to deal with such invasive animals,” he said.
Some people suspected it was “young fellows from the dances”, Mr Carr added. “I suspect that it may just be foolish vandals.”
Animal rights organisations contacted by The Irish Times said that they had not heard about the incident and did not know if animal rights activists were involved.
“We have nothing do with it. However, I commend whoever risked their freedom to do this as these animals have a horrendous life,” said Bernie Wright of the Alliance for Animal Rights.
She said the incident may have been “strategically timed” before animals were killed in the next few months.

Good to see the local Gun Club doing there bit!

Guill

"These people should be commended for risking their freedom"!!

What a joke! and how stupid is Bernie wright.

Stupid old Bernie.....

Feargal as Luimneach

johngalway wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Foolish comment Feargal.

Well, if Ireland never had any mink farms in the first place we wouldn't have a mink problem! There just too dangerous (if they are released) an animal to have.

If a factory which had hazardous chemicals was kept on being broken into and as a result there was harmfull chemicals being released into the enviroment. What would people say? Get adequate security or shut the place down.:cool:

Guill

If a factory which had hazardous chemicals was kept on being broken into and as a result there was harmfull chemicals being released into the enviroment. What would people say? Get adequate security or shut the place down.

Would the tree huggers run into these factories to free the trapped chemicals and therefore cause an environmental disaster, then go around clapping themselves on the back?
I think they would get better security and then hang the under educated ******s that did it up by the balls until ‘the mink come home’.

johngalway

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Well, if Ireland never had any mink farms in the first place we wouldn't have a mink problem! There just too dangerous (if they are released) an animal to have.

If a factory which had hazardous chemicals was kept on being broken into and as a result there was harmfull chemicals being released into the enviroment. What would people say? Get adequate security or shut the place down.:cool:

This is an actual incident. It's not a hypothetical nuclear weapons factory. People caused criminal damage to release those mink. Do you support that?

The people releasing them are the ones breaking the law.

Half-cocked

"There are just five mink farms operating in the Republic but these are expected to be phased out by 2012 under the current Programme for Government"

So mink farming is on the way out, but these idiots feel the need to wreak havoc with the local ecosystem anyway. Did they stop to think about the impact on both wild and domestic birds and animals? Don't our native creatures have 'rights' too?

pedroeibar1

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Well, if Ireland never had any mink farms in the first place we wouldn't have a mink problem! There just too dangerous (if they are released) an animal to have.

If a factory which had hazardous chemicals was kept on being broken into and as a result there was harmfull chemicals being released into the enviroment. What would people say? Get adequate security or shut the place down.:cool:

Without doubt one of the most asinine posts I’ve read in a long time.:rolleyes:You might consider that citizens of the State have an entitlement to earn a living, have a right to property, etc. There are hazmats in every corner of the country. Factories are broken into on a regular basis.


A logical extension of your argument is to close all pharmaceutical factories because they carry drugs. Next step, why not close all metal fabrication and electro industries because they carry acids (for cleaning/etching). Most manufacturers carry product that could damage the water table/ environment/whatever?


Do you know anything about economics?
P.

Rovi

Pat Kenny is going to cover the topic at some point during today's show.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/index.html

kildare.17hmr

Rovi wrote: »

Pat Kenny is going to cover the topic at some point during today's show.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/index.html

Have just turned it on, has it been on yet??

Bernie Enright is comending people for breaking the law, what does that say about her organisation???

Feargal as Luimneach

johngalway wrote: »

This is an actual incident. It's not a hypothetical nuclear weapons factory. People caused criminal damage to release those mink. Do you support that?

The people releasing them are the ones breaking the law.

If you refer to my first post on the matter I did call them fools (people releasing mink). It's a crazy, dangerous thing to do. Why would I want to see mink released with the damage they do to important birds like corncrake?

johngalway

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Why would I want to see mink released with the damage they do to important birds like corncrake?

Your ill thought out reasoning begged the question. That, basically, anything which could be broken into or stolen should be banned or outlawed.

Birdnuts

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Well, if Ireland never had any mink farms in the first place we wouldn't have a mink problem! There just too dangerous (if they are released) an animal to have.

If a factory which had hazardous chemicals was kept on being broken into and as a result there was harmfull chemicals being released into the enviroment. What would people say? Get adequate security or shut the place down.:cool:

Feargal - your all over the place here:rolleyes:. The facts are 1) that mink farming will be gone anyway by 2012

2)this was an appalling act of vandelism which their is no excuse for - its the equvalent of someone dumping a tanker of diesel into a protected wetland:mad::mad:

PS: Bernie Wright has proven to everyone today that AFAR and the like need to be banned as a threat to Irelands Natural Heritage!!!:mad:

Sparks

Birdnuts wrote: »

Feargal - your all over the place here:rolleyes:. The facts are 1) that mink farming will be gone anyway by 2012

IF the green party get the legislation passed in the lifetime of the government, which is not a sure thing.

2)this was an appalling act of vandelism which their is no excuse for - its the equvalent of someone dumping a tanker of diesel into a protected wetland:mad::mad:
PS: Bernie Wright has proven to everyone today that ICABS need to be banned as a threat to Irelands Natural Heritage!!!:mad:

I doubt many here would disagree with that!

Feargal as Luimneach

Birdnuts wrote: »

Feargal - your all over the place here:rolleyes:. The facts are 1) that mink farming will be gone anyway by 2012

2)this was an appalling act of vandelism which their is no excuse for - its the equvalent of someone dumping a tanker of diesel into a protected wetland:mad::mad:

PS: Bernie Wright has proven to everyone today that ICABS need to be banned as a threat to Irelands Natural Heritage!!!:mad:

It is an act of vandalism. I never said it wasn't. Bernie Wright is a fool I agree.

Birdnuts

Sparks wrote: »

IF the green party get the legislation passed in the lifetime of the government, which is not a sure thing.

!

So banning Stag hunting was a priority and not Mink Farms - are the lunatics running the asylum when it comes to the Irish GP!!:(

Sparks

To be honest Birdnuts, when the 10-year bond interest rate is 6.7%, I think there are larger issues to tackle than either mink or stags...

Birdnuts

Sparks wrote: »

To be honest Birdnuts, when the 10-year bond interest rate is 6.7%, I think there are larger issues to tackle than either mink or stags...

I know - thats why I try to loose myself in the hunting forum;)

Grizzly 45

As we are continously reminded here about slander folks could we PLEASE NOTE the following;
Bernie Wright has NO connection with ICABS,as a repersentative,member or anything else..

ICABS does NOT condone criminal acts...It is a reason John Fitzgerald and John Tierney were made leave ICABS after their respective brushes with the law.in 1985 and 1994 respectively.Although the largest organisation here it is the least violent.It is too easy to lump it all together as "ICABS",but there are at least five plus different groups here in Ireland
ICABS,CACS,AHOS,DHS,GHS,WHS,AFAR,ARAN.

Bernie Wright is involved with the following organisations;Dublin Hunt Sabs,Waterford Hunt Sabs[co founded with John Tierney],Greyhound action network,and various one man/woman bands that support animal rights issues.Whatever the issue she will promptly found a group to cover it.While claiming not to condone violence or militant methods,BW acts as a PR clearing house for comminiques from ALF.She has also been known to associate with known militants and subversives .Ranging from an ex Loyalist bombmaker,to Robin Webb PR of UK hunt Sabs Assoc ,charged but aquitted with possesion of a sawn off shotgun and bomb making materials,to Dr Jerry Vlaseck,who was served a exclusion order from the UK home office in 2006[?]from entering the UK to lecture,due to his incitement to violence speechs in the US.Where he advocated shooting and bombing animal vivisection clinics and vivisectionists.
So BW militant tendencies and associations should be enough for any police force to investigate further.

So lets just be careful to associate the" Wright "people with the right groups.;)

Guill

Wow, sad Bernie wright has some cv.
:eek:

Birdnuts

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

As we are continously reminded here about slander folks could we PLEASE NOTE the following;
Bernie Wright has NO connection with ICABS,as a repersentative,member or anything else..

ICABS does NOT condone criminal acts...It is a reason John Fitzgerald and John Tierney were made leave ICABS after their respective brushes with the law.in 1985 and 1994 respectively.Although the largest organisation here it is the least violent.It is too easy to lump it all together as "ICABS",but there are at least five plus different groups here in Ireland
ICABS,CACS,AHOS,DHS,GHS,WHS,AFAR,ARAN.

Bernie Wright is involved with the following organisations;Dublin Hunt Sabs,Waterford Hunt Sabs[co founded with John Tierney],Greyhound action network,and various one man/woman bands that support animal rights issues.Whatever the issue she will promptly found a group to cover it.While claiming not to condone violence or militant methods,BW acts as a PR clearing house for comminiques from ALF.She has also been known to associate with known militants and subversives .Ranging from an ex Loyalist bombmaker,to Robin Webb PR of UK hunt Sabs Assoc ,charged but aquitted with possesion of a sawn off shotgun and bomb making materials,to Dr Jerry Vlaseck,who was served a exclusion order from the UK home office in 2006[?]from entering the UK to lecture,due to his incitement to violence speechs in the US.Where he advocated shooting and bombing animal vivisection clinics and vivisectionists.
So BW militant tendencies and associations should be enough for any police force to investigate further.

So lets just be careful to associate the" Wright "people with the right groups.;)

Duly noted:)
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0929/1224279906818.html

Sparks

From the NARGC:

National Association of Regional Game Councils (NARGC) Condemns Mink Release

The National Association of Regional Game Councils unequivocally condemns the release of mink in Donegal, apparently by so called animal rights extremists. The release of so many mink will cause untold damage to wildlife, particularly ground nesting birds and waterfowl and also to fish stocks. The mink is a voracious killer and will kill far more than it needs to eat to survive. It is an alien species to Ireland which has no place in the Irish countryside. Already, Ireland is overrun with a large population of mink which cause massive damage annually to wildlife and fish stocks. These mink in the wild are the results of unlawful releases over the past 30 years and they create havoc on an ongoing basis for the conservation of native species. There are two issues in particular which such actions highlight. Firstly, the obvious dearth of knowledge concerning wildlife among the animal rights movement and secondly, it exposes the fact that their fundamentalist agenda is all important to them – even at the expense of the environmental criminal damage they cause.

NARGC for its part has mobilised the gun clubs in Donegal to assist the Wildlife Service and the local fishing and farming interests in trapping the released mink so as to mitigate the serious damage they will cause to other forms of wildlife. NARGC National Director Des Crofton stated: “This was an environmental crime committed by brainless criminals. It was pathetic to hear the animal rights spokesperson, Laura Buxton on Ocean FM applauding the release as some kind of blow for animal welfare while ignoring the massive slaughter they will now inflict on wildlife, especially birds. Unmoved by the environmental threat which the perpetrators are responsible for, she stated there would be more such incidents. This is not animal welfare, it is crime”.

Birdnuts

The ignorance of these extreme AR types would be funny if it wasn't for the immense damage that they cause to our Natural Heritage - Why are they even given a platform by the media to spout there support for such blatent criminality:mad:

Grizzly 45

Because it is still considerd a act of minor criminality or vandalism,rather than actual sabotage.Untill somthing like a furrier is burnt out,or somone seriously injured,this will be just treated as "ah shure it was just kids messin about":mad:.
Watch the new generation like Laura Broxton,they will be the big trouble lot.She would make Ulrike Meinhoff of the Red Army Faction look kindly going by her statements on hger web page. "hunters are not fit to live in civillised society" springs to mind.:eek:

Birdnuts

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

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Watch the new generation like Laura Broxton,they will be the big trouble lot.She would make Ulrike Meinhoff of the Red Army Faction look kindly going by her statements on hger web page. "hunters are not fit to live in civillised society" springs to mind.:eek:

Where is this Broxton wingnut from??

kfod

I read the article on the OP and saw "hundreds of mink", come back to it today and read 5000 mink!! I've seen the damage mink can do as one killed 10 of my hens and got away and another killed 5 or 6 of my Uncles ducks, but that fella got a .22lr later in the day thankfully.

Can't imagine what the effect of 5000 is going to be on the wild bird population in Donegal and surrounding counties. Devastating for sure though. Do mink take rabbit also?

It's hard to understand people who would do something like this. Maybe they really don't get that they have directly caused the deaths of tens of thousands of animals by releasing these mink. Is there a way to educate said people?

flutered

i am in the other end of the country, during the week a neighbour lost 200 broiler chicks in one hour, and to make matters worse the killers escaped.

vixdname

kfod wrote: »

Is there a way to educate said people?

Yes, with a large cane.