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IE travel ID needed?

  • 28-09-2010 4:40pm
    #1
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭


    Hi lads,

    I've been following with interest the various threads about wrong tickets/fines etc and it got me thinking...

    I've been travelling on one of these (image either attached or embedded, depends on what I can do!) for two weeks a month for the best part of 2 years. It's a route-specific seven-day Dart/Luas combo.

    I can't get them from the automated machines (a pain when the ticket office is closed at 9.25 of a morning), so I buy them from the ticket office. I have never been asked about having an ID card.

    Until I read these threads and examined a recent ticket, I thought no ID was necessary.

    I of course saw the print at the bottom saying "valid only with a current ID" , but because I'd never been asked about one, nor had any Luas inspector asked for one, I assumed that the warning was simply printed on all "blue" tickets issued, and that that's the type of card the guy in the ticket office tended to use for these things.

    Now I see a space on the front of the card for an ID number to be written.

    Am I correct in assuming that I need to get myself an ID card. And where in Dublin is the appropriate IE office for this, now that the Abbey St one is closed?


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  • #2
    flyingsnail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    All Irish rail weekly and monthly tickets require and ID card (link)
    Weekly Tickets are valid for one week from Sunday to Saturday within the designated Zone. ID Cards required, which are available at any Iarnród Éireann Booking Office, on production of passport-sized photograph.


  • #3
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    you need to get into dublin bus on o connell street and get a photo id, think it costs €10.

    purely amazing that so many people allowed you purchase tickets that require an id card without ever asking you for your id


  • #4
    Ham'nd'egger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    OP, pop into the Dublin Bus Office on O'Connell Street or any main railway station and get a form there.


  • #5
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Hamndegger wrote: »
    OP, pop into the Dublin Bus Office on O'Connell Street or any main railway station and get a form there.
    what railway stations are the id cards available from exactly? i assume it is only connolly pearse and heuston and the large regional stations like waterford limerick and cork?


  • #6
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    flyingsnail wrote: »
    All Irish rail weekly and monthly tickets require and ID card (link)

    I've looked at that page before. It does not specifically mention my weirdo seven-day (eg Wed to Tues) Dart/Luas/Bus 90 combo.

    This added to my sense that I had some strange route-specific ticket that fell through the ID card requirements.

    I'll get a photo and go to Connolly, so.

    But what's this "form" Ham'nd'egger mentioned? Do you have to send off for it?


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  • #7
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    1. You don't need ID on 7 day point to point tickets. http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_info/ticketing.php#id You do for weekly tickets as in Sun to Sat zonal tickets

    2. The ticket machine should sell that ticket, 'Dublin City Centre' as destination and select Luas when it asks


  • #8
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    1. You don't need ID on 7 day point to point tickets. http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_info/ticketing.php#id You do for weekly tickets as in Sun to Sat zonal tickets

    2. The ticket machine should sell that ticket, 'Dublin City Centre' as destination and select Luas when it asks

    Thanks. I'll try a machine later to check.


  • #9
    Ham'nd'egger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    Grolschevik wrote: »
    But what's this "form" Ham'nd'egger mentioned? Do you have to send off for it?

    It's for the standard CIE ID Card.


  • #10
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    I've been travelling on one of these (image either attached or embedded, depends on what I can do!) for two weeks a month for the best part of 2 years. It's a route-specific seven-day Dart/Luas combo.

    Grolshevik,I`m unclear if you are using that ticket as a general ticket on Bus?Luas services ?

    It`s essentially a Rail only ticket with a specific add-on to allow you to complete your journey to An Lár...in the old days,the Pillar or McBirneys.

    If you use it on Luas or any Bus other than a 90 then you`re risking a Standard Fare.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #11
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Grolshevik,I`m unclear if you are using that ticket as a general ticket on Bus?Luas services ?

    It`s essentially a Rail only ticket with a specific add-on to allow you to complete your journey to An Lár...in the old days,the Pillar or McBirneys.

    If you use it on Luas or any Bus other than a 90 then you`re risking a Standard Fare.

    No, not as a general ticket. I believe the Luas component is only valid as far as Heuston, similarly Bus 90, and the Dart component only to Connolly/Tara/Pearse.


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  • #12
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    I believe the Luas component is only valid as far as Heuston, similarly Bus 90, and the Dart component only to Connolly/Tara/Pearse.

    Yep Grolshevik,that`s correct.

    I was only asking due to the significant numbers of such ticket holders I come across who believe the Add-On is valid for DB or Luas services as a whole....well they say they thought so anyway....:)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #13
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Yep Grolshevik,that`s correct.

    I was only asking due to the significant numbers of such ticket holders I come across who believe the Add-On is valid for DB or Luas services as a whole....well they say they thought so anyway....:)

    Looking at a PDF in a link posted by going nowhere above (http://www.railusers.ie/resources/IR%20Ticketing.pdf), it appears that a 7-day short-hop rail/Luas is only a fiver more than my ticket. Or it was in 2004...

    Might be worth getting that in case I ever feel the need to go beyond my confines. That said, I can find no mention of such a ticket on the IE site.

    (Nor, incidentally, could I find an option to buy my usual ticket from the machines at my station).

    So if I don't need an ID for my current point-to-point with Luas Heuston add-on, I take it that I would need one for that 7-day rambler I mention? (Basically, is it worth my while picking up an ID card anyway...?)


  • #14
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Ticket is there
    • Select letter D
    • Select Dublin City Centre
    • Bottom of screen select 1/3/7 day
    • Select with Luas
    • Now shows list with 1/3/7 day prices
    • Pick the 7 day option (first one)


  • #15
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Ticket is there
    • Select letter D
    • Select Dublin City Centre
    • Bottom of screen select 1/3/7 day
    • Select with Luas
    • Now shows list with 1/3/7 day prices
    • Pick the 7 day option (first one)

    Unfortunately, neither "Dublin City Centre", nor "Dublin", nor "city centre" appeared as options under either D or C on the machines at my station when I tried it this morning. I can choose "Connolly", "Tara", or "Pearse", but then steps 3 and following on your list do not apply...


  • #16
    NuMarvel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Ticket is there
    • Select letter D
    • Select Dublin City Centre
    • Bottom of screen select 1/3/7 day
    • Select with Luas
    • Now shows list with 1/3/7 day prices
    • Pick the 7 day option (first one)

    About two weeks ago, the Dublin City Centre option disappeared off the ticket machines at my local DART train station so I'm not sure if it's available anymore. I meant to check it with IE, but seeing as how I never actually use the 90 Bus, I never got around to it.


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