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Link two Sky boxes

  • 28-09-2010 10:37am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭


    Apologies if this has already been answered, but I cannot find a definite answer.
    I want to link a sky+ box and a FTA sky box so as to view the channel from each box & the Irish channels in 5 different rooms i.e 6 output channels.

    Is this possible?

    Currently I have sky+ in 1 room with an aerial cable running to it.
    In another room there is a sat connection to the FTA sky box & the aerial connection.

    The RF2 output from the Sky+ box is fed to an F140 amplifier which feeds the other 4 rooms with the Irish channels & the sky channel.The sky channel can then be changed with the eye.

    I would appreciate any advice on setting this up,thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    just use splitters as combiners from the RF out of boxes to the aerial signal. Outputs of combiners into your distribution amp.

    Make sure the boxes are on different unused channels.

    Don't feed the aerial into either box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Thanks Watty.

    Will I still be able to use the eyes though?

    I would like to be able to control the FTA box from at least two rooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭slegs


    Only one global eye can be controlled through the amp..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Thanks for the reply.
    If only one eye will work through the amp,which box will it control?

    Do I output through the RF or the powered RF2.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    I have done many a setup like this
    Aerial in to Input on FTA/skybox, On RF ch 34 out of RF1 in to Aerial input on Sky+ box out of RF1 on RFch 68 into main tv out of RF2turned off on ch68 up to amp then get a set of these http://www.aqudos.ie/product/Powermid-XL-Remote-Control-Extender-System/product_details/. This way you will have 6 channels in all rooms. You will be able to control either box form which ever room the transmitter is in. You can add on extra Transmitters in the future.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Ive seen many setups like this work perfectly with the rf2's combined and then sent to a distribution amp in the attic. Then each tv in every room has an eye that will work both boxes without problem. The only problem i can see is combining the 2 9v sources together with a cheap "Y" type splitter. Perhaps a DC pass splitter would be better to use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    I have this very setup in myown house.

    1no Sky box(FTA)
    1no Sky Plus box
    Both boxes located toghether

    Feed from roof top aerial(s) feed into sky box. This allows terrestrial to distribute to all tv's
    Feed from rf2 on both sky box and sky+ box fed into global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)

    Output from the combiner into Global F-180 dist. amp.

    Magic eye at each of 7no TV outlets.

    The remotes are programmed to the specific boxes and it is possible to combine upto 4 receivers in this manner.

    No matter which room you go into the remote will control its respective receiver.

    Works really well

    Obviously, you will have to tune the TV's to the respective RF out channels. Easier to do this before you go hooking up the combiners/dist amps etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭slegs


    i stand corrected - nice feature that you can control both boxes through one eye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    I have this very setup in myown house.

    1no Sky box(FTA)
    1no Sky Plus box
    Both boxes located toghether

    Feed from roof top aerial(s) feed into sky box. This allows terrestrial to distribute to all tv's
    Feed from rf2 on both sky box and sky+ box fed into global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)

    Output from the combiner into Global F-180 dist. amp.

    Magic eye at each of 7no TV outlets.

    The remotes are programmed to the specific boxes and it is possible to combine upto 4 receivers in this manner.

    No matter which room you go into the remote will control its respective receiver.

    Works really well

    Obviously, you will have to tune the TV's to the respective RF out channels. Easier to do this before you go hooking up the combiners/dist amps etc.

    Re "global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)" - do you have a link showing this item or any info on where to get one etc as this sounds perfect for my set up. thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    Widescreen wrote: »
    Re "global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)" - do you have a link showing this item or any info on where to get one etc as this sounds perfect for my set up. thanks.

    A normal Y splitter works just as good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭AstralTV




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    AstralTV wrote: »

    thanks. just one question as I am not overly technical. I assume the output of this item would go into my amplifier instead of my existing splitter. Only thing is the output of this doesn't seem to show a protruding connector which would slot into amp?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    You need to link from the combiner too the distribution amp with a piece of suitable co=ax cable.

    Your dist. amp. obviously should be capable of allowing the power/signal to the eyes.

    Any more questions, just ask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    snaps wrote: »
    A normal Y splitter works just as good.

    Surely a Y splitter(s) wont allow multiple receivers to be controlled from multiple locations.

    I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    You need to link from the combiner too the distribution amp with a piece of suitable co=ax cable.

    Your dist. amp. obviously should be capable of allowing the power/signal to the eyes.

    Any more questions, just ask

    ok gotcha! my amp is working three eyes at moment no prob. I have two boxes(one std/one sky+) together at main location and eyes only working one box.Sounds like this part will do trick. thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Thanks to all who have replied.

    Regarding the SPC4 combiner, can you program 2 remotes to the same box,for use in different locations & also will the remote still operate the various tv functions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Another question.

    Watty mentioned to connect the aerial cable in the attic. This would work for me as it would free up a cable to allow a feed from the amp go back to the main tv where the sky + box is located. It would allow me to control the FTA sky box from here.

    To include the aerial cable can I use a power pass splitter to join the aerial & rf2 cables & then feed this into the combiner & onto to the amplifier.

    Will this distribute Irish channels & allow the magic to work? Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    I have this very setup in myown house.

    1no Sky box(FTA)
    1no Sky Plus box
    Both boxes located toghether

    Feed from roof top aerial(s) feed into sky box. This allows terrestrial to distribute to all tv's
    Feed from rf2 on both sky box and sky+ box fed into global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)

    Output from the combiner into Global F-180 dist. amp.

    Magic eye at each of 7no TV outlets.

    The remotes are programmed to the specific boxes and it is possible to combine upto 4 receivers in this manner.

    No matter which room you go into the remote will control its respective receiver.

    Works really well

    Obviously, you will have to tune the TV's to the respective RF out channels. Easier to do this before you go hooking up the combiners/dist amps etc.

    Just one further query please. I assume that if you ever end up say with a Sky Plus and Sky HD box together in same location that you will have the problem,through the magic eye, of the sky plus remote operating the hd box at same time?

    I assume this set up,excellent though it is, would only suit a combination of a standard box and a hd or sky plus box?

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭glineli


    Widescreen wrote: »
    Just one further query please. I assume that if you ever end up say with a Sky Plus and Sky HD box together in same location that you will have the problem,through the magic eye, of the sky plus remote operating the hd box at same time?

    I assume this set up,excellent though it is, would only suit a combination of a standard box and a hd or sky plus box?

    thanks

    I have sky HD and sky+ box and the remote in other rooms will only operate what box they are linked to. So i dont have that problem at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    glineli wrote: »
    I have sky HD and sky+ box and the remote in other rooms will only operate what box they are linked to. So i dont have that problem at all

    Clarifies that,thanks a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    Widescreen wrote: »
    Just one further query please. I assume that if you ever end up say with a Sky Plus and Sky HD box together in same location that you will have the problem,through the magic eye, of the sky plus remote operating the hd box at same time?

    I assume this set up,excellent though it is, would only suit a combination of a standard box and a hd or sky plus box?

    thanks

    No it's not a problem as the remotes are programmed to ports on the SPC4 combiner as opposed to the receivers.

    The setup is suited to any combination of upto and including 4 receivers/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    jgbyr wrote: »
    Thanks to all who have replied.

    Regarding the SPC4 combiner, can you program 2 remotes to the same box,for use in different locations & also will the remote still operate the various tv functions?

    Yes you can, the remotes are programmed to the ports on the SPC 4 as opposed to the receivers, as outlined above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Randyleprechaun


    jgbyr wrote: »
    Another question.

    Watty mentioned to connect the aerial cable in the attic. This would work for me as it would free up a cable to allow a feed from the amp go back to the main tv where the sky + box is located. It would allow me to control the FTA sky box from here.

    To include the aerial cable can I use a power pass splitter to join the aerial & rf2 cables & then feed this into the combiner & onto to the amplifier.

    Will this distribute Irish channels & allow the magic to work? Thanks.

    Not sure I understand yuor question fully, sorry!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    No it's not a problem as the remotes are programmed to ports on the SPC4 combiner as opposed to the receivers.

    The setup is suited to any combination of upto and including 4 receivers/

    many thanks for the info , I ordered one today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Watty mentioned to connect the aerial cable in the attic. This would work for me as it would free up a cable to allow a feed from the amp go back to the main tv where the sky + box is located. It would allow me to control the FTA sky box from here.

    To include the aerial cable can I use a power pass splitter to join the aerial & rf2 cables & then feed this into the combiner & onto to the amplifier.

    Will this distribute Irish channels & allow the magic to work? Thanks.
    Not sure I understand yuor question fully, sorry!!!!

    I want to be able to change the fta box at the tv where the sky+ box is set up.
    I have four feeds to it. I would need 1 from the amp,2 for the sky+ & the rf2 feed. This means I cannot run the aerial to this box & I also don't have enough cables going to the fta box to do it.
    That is why I was wondering if I can connect it in the attic.
    Any suggestions would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Can anyone answer this for me?
    jgbyr wrote: »
    Watty mentioned to connect the aerial cable in the attic. This would work for me as it would free up a cable to allow a feed from the amp go back to the main tv where the sky + box is located. It would allow me to control the FTA sky box from here.

    To include the aerial cable can I use a power pass splitter to join the aerial & rf2 cables & then feed this into the combiner & onto to the amplifier.

    Will this distribute Irish channels & allow the magic to work? Thanks.



    I want to be able to change the fta box at the tv where the sky+ box is set up.
    I have four feeds to it. I would need 1 from the amp,2 for the sky+ & the rf2 feed. This means I cannot run the aerial to this box & I also don't have enough cables going to the fta box to do it.
    That is why I was wondering if I can connect it in the attic.
    Any suggestions would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Can anyone at all answer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭cauliflower69


    Another easy way to do this would be to put the FTA box in the attic and have the terrestrial aerial into that then have the 2 sat feeds to the sky+ and one back up for combiner.

    Then you have the combiner in the attic along with the FTA box and then into amplifier.

    The only down fall is that you'll have mono sound on the FTA.

    Your choice which is better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Widescreen


    I have this very setup in myown house.

    1no Sky box(FTA)
    1no Sky Plus box
    Both boxes located toghether

    Feed from roof top aerial(s) feed into sky box. This allows terrestrial to distribute to all tv's
    Feed from rf2 on both sky box and sky+ box fed into global super plus combiner(SPC4).(4 inputs)

    Output from the combiner into Global F-180 dist. amp.

    Magic eye at each of 7no TV outlets.

    The remotes are programmed to the specific boxes and it is possible to combine upto 4 receivers in this manner.

    No matter which room you go into the remote will control its respective receiver.

    Works really well

    Obviously, you will have to tune the TV's to the respective RF out channels. Easier to do this before you go hooking up the combiners/dist amps etc.

    Just wondering could you or anyone else please clarify a couple of points on my set up prior to installing the Super plus combiner so I can use my second box through the magic eye.

    Current Set up at main location.

    Sky plus box x 1 -Terrestrial aerial goes into this box.
    Std sky box x 1
    DVD Recorder x 1

    All channels plus dvd are viewable on all tv's and I can tape all channels with the dvd recorder.

    A Dist. Amp is installed with three of four outputs used to the 3 other tv's. Rf2 of std sky box and rf1 from same box go into a splitter which goes into the dist.amp.If the Rf1 is not included here I will lose functionality with DVD.

    The three other tv's have magic eyes and the std sky box is worked from them.

    All works perfectly.

    Now, I assume to get the sky plus box also working with the magic eye I will have to run a seperate lead from its rf2 socket into the combiner,lets say input 0. ? My question is if I put the existing splitter from the std box with its rf1+rf2 as mentioned earlier into say ,input 1 of the combiner is that ok? Want to make sure I wouldn't be overloading it and also should that work?

    Assuming this was ok, I would then just put the output from the combiner into the amp and things should work then, assuming of course I do all the set up correctly etc.

    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭necstandards


    This all sounds great and all, but way over my head. i think i want the same arrangement, so any chance one of you people couild draw a picture for me??:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Start a new thread, outlining exactly what you want. This thread is old & some of the suggestions may now be irrelevant or out of date.


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