Aliens Interefered with Nuclear Weapons!

Degsy

From the Irish Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0928/breaking12.html

Former members of the US air force have claimed aliens had interfered with nuclear weapons - including during one famous incident in Britain.
UFO researcher Robert Hastings held a press conference in Washington yesterday to “address the vital issue of UFO incursions at US nuclear weapons sites over the past six decades”.

Mr Hastings said: “More than 100 former or retired US Air Force personnel - once trusted to operate or guard weapons of mass destruction - have come forward and revealed ongoing UFO surveillance of, and occasional interference with, our nuclear weapons.

“This information alters the historical perspective on the nuclear arms race and much, much more," he said.
“The fact that the Pentagon and CIA have successfully kept the truth from public view for so long is in itself mind-boggling.”

The Rendlesham Forest incident, often described as “Britain’s Roswell” was used as one example of evidence aliens had targeted nuclear weapons. The incident, in the early hours of December 27th, 1980, was never fully explained.

Several US air force personnel reported seeing a strange metallic object hovering in the forest near RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk. The object apparently left three depressions in the ground.

But papers released by the National Archives show the Ministry of Defence’s final position was that there was “no evidence of anything having intruded into British airspace”.

:eek:

ILA

Old news, the Conspiracy Forum has had this for days now.

GavRedKing

Thread needs more tin foil hats TBH.

Degsy

gavredking wrote: »

Thread needs more tin foil hats TBH.

Okay

Wait - what?

So they get to fly around the Universe in ultra cool spaceships with advanced technologies and yet we aren't even allowed some measly nuclear weapons? What a jip!

The worst we could do at present is blow ourselves up.

Sticky_Fingers

From article:

Mr Hastings said: “More than 100 former or retired US Air Force personnel - once trusted to operate or guard weapons of mass destruction - have come forward and revealed ongoing UFO surveillance of, and occasional interference with, our nuclear weapons.

Well considering they were more than willing to push the button that would obliterate millions of people if they got the go ahead just to safeguard their "way of life" would tell me that their judgment is not exactly foolproof.

* AH response
If the aliens look anything like this then they are more then welcome to interfere with the ICBM in my pants
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/stargatefan234/MorenaV.jpg

Riamfada

Apparently this has something to do with the fact that nuclear weapons are the only device invented that can destroy a soul.

GavRedKing

Degsy wrote: »

Okay

Tin foil hats for all

mikom

Degsy wrote: »

Aliens Interefered with Nuclear Weapons!

Lots of Nuclear Weapons running around in shorts? That's the kind of thing you like looking at.
(Turns to Father Shanahan) And I'll bet you like that too. You're probably imagining what they'd look like without shorts. You're sitting there, imagining that, with a big smile on your face. Ya dirty fecker!

Nodin

Grimes wrote: »

Apparently this has something to do with the fact that nuclear weapons are the only device invented that can destroy a soul.

...other than women....

Degsy

Nodin wrote: »

...other than women....

And mothers in law!

My name is URL

Video of the live conference on CNN from yesterday if anyone's interested - http://www.blip.tv/file/4172861

I still dunno what to make of it all.. the guys have held other similar conferences in the past which have had little effect, and I don't think that any government has backed their claims up. I'd love if it was true, but the cynic in me says they're only interested in selling their tales. Who knows though.. there's over 100 scientists and military personell who have testified so far.. they can't all be cowboys can they?

PhiloCypher

These Aliens are getting as bad as the priests now with their interfering with the younger














Races .

Degsy

My name is URL wrote: »

there's over 100 scientists and military personell who have testified so far.. they can't all be cowboys can they?

No,but they're probably all alcoholics..sitting in a silo for years would drive anybody to drink.

Nodin

My name is URL wrote: »

.. there's over 100 scientists and military personell who have testified so far.. they can't all be cowboys can they?

Its America, the land of the cowboy. Besides, in amongst the cowboys are the true believers, nuts and weirdos to fill out the ranks. Part of the fun of these things is trying to tell the chancers from the mentalists....

sponsoredwalk

Threads like these bring on a fond recollection of the times when forced
neutering of humans was still permitted...

/vows_never_to_read_Irish_Times_news_again...

My name is URL

Nodin wrote: »

Its America, the land of the cowboy. Besides, in amongst the cowboys are the true believers, nuts and weirdos to fill out the ranks. Part of the fun of these things is trying to tell the chancers from the mentalists....

They're not all American =p.. As I said, I dunno if any of it's true but I love how most people who claim to be open minded shoot the ideas down as fantastical delusions. Who would it take to testify before anyone believed it? All you can do is take the claims at face value really.. it's not just one obscure person who's making them after all, it's a large group of respected individuals.. and even if some of them are out to further their own agenda, it's no reason to dismiss all of what is being said

Sea Sharp

UFOs don't necessarily have to be aliens. They could just be top secret military aircraft. The Nazis made UFOs. (It was on the History channel, I've not gone nuts.)
If they can interfere with nukes does that mean they can just send over one of those UFOs to disarm Iran?

CreepingDeath

Grimes wrote: »

Apparently this has something to do with the fact that nuclear weapons are the only device invented that can destroy a soul.

A nuke is nothing compared to a star, supernova or black hole.

GavRedKing

CreepingDeath wrote: »

A nuke is nothing compared to a star, supernova or black hole.

True, but trying harness their power and convert to use in weapon form is far beyond our current technology means.........unless the Aliens and UFO's have been supplying us with the right materials and information.

:eek:

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Mister men

Lol at thread

PhiloCypher

gavredking wrote: »

True, but trying harness their power and convert to use in weapon form is far beyond our current technology means.........unless the Aliens and UFO's have been supplying us with the right materials and information.

:eek:

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But not the Romulans it seems .

Ash.J.Williams

Sounds like babyFark Macgee-zax is up to his old tricks again!

thebigbiffo

Grimes wrote: »

Apparently this has something to do with the fact that nuclear weapons are the only device invented that can destroy a soul.

:eek::eek:

link?

Degsy

CreepingDeath wrote: »

A nuke is nothing compared to a star, supernova or black hole.

Thanks for that Millhouse.

Nodin

My name is URL wrote: »

They're not all American =p.. As I said, I dunno if any of it's true but I love how most people who claim to be open minded shoot the ideas down as fantastical delusions. Who would it take to testify before anyone believed it? All you can do is take the claims at face value really.. it's not just one obscure person who's making them after all, it's a large group of respected individuals.. and even if some of them are out to further their own agenda, it's no reason to dismiss all of what is being said

Well, "dismiss" isn't quite it. For example - A man guarding a nuclear missile base hears (x), sees (y), and concludes its aliens. I'm not saying that he didn't hear x or see y, its his conclusion I'd take issue with.

Biggins

The aliens don't want us killing ourselves too much.
They need us alive so we can be just food to them later.

I'm alright though. I have my tin hat.

sbsquarepants

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

From article:
If the aliens look anything like this then they are more then welcome to interfere with the ICBM in my pants
http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv167/stargatefan234/MorenaV.jpg

That explains the user name!
I have to admit though, she's hot as f'uck;)

My name is URL

Nodin wrote: »

Well, "dismiss" isn't quite it. For example - A man guarding a nuclear missile base hears (x), sees (y), and concludes its aliens. I'm not saying that he didn't hear x or see y, its his conclusion I'd take issue with.

Yeah, they're pretty wild conclusions but that's what happens when no official line is given and there's no other explanation. Buzz Aldrin has claimed he witnessed UFOs too, as well as many other astronauts.. and no official explanation was given to them.. instead they were told to keep quiet about it in order to avoid ridicule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI

Andrew33

I really had to laugh when I heard this on the radio this morning, the reporter stated with no hint of irony that the story had come from 6 USAF pilots.:rolleyes:

PhiloCypher

Americans are a highly credulous people, more of them believe the story of genesis is real then believe their president is actually American or indeed christian, so I'd take any eyewitness accounts with a pinch of salt .

Nodin

sbsquarepants wrote: »

That explains the user name!
I have to admit though, she's hot as f'uck;)

She eats the male after she mates.











Still would though.

rossie1977

that uk incident is probably the most interesting ufo story for me, it was witnessed by numerous trained soldiers, one of them the highest ranked on the base (who surely could distinguish military hardware from something else) over a number of nights

Hail 2 Da Chimp

My name is URL wrote: »

Yeah, they're pretty wild conclusions but that's what happens when no official line is given and there's no other explanation. Buzz Aldrin has claimed he witnessed UFOs too, as well as many other astronauts.. and no official explanation was given to them.. instead they were told to keep quiet about it in order to avoid ridicule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI

He's not the most credible witness - Buzz Aldrin shouting at the moon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adz4rbKSsDI

Hail 2 Da Chimp

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

He's not the most credible witness - Buzz Aldrin shouting at the moon:

I actually take that back - I just seen this clip of Buzz Aldrin being harassed about the moon landing being faked, he's a bad ass!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic

Sorry for all the OT posting...

Voodu Child

ILA wrote: »

Old news, the Conspiracy Forum has had this for days now.

I wouldn't believe anything in the Conspiracy Theory Forum since most posters there are employed by the CIA to spread dis-information.

The Recliner

Voodu Child wrote: »

I wouldn't believe anything in the Conspiracy Theory Forum since most posters there are employed by the CIA to spread dis-information.

No we are not
*or are we*

faceman

The Disclosure Project has been reporting on this for years. Something to do with aliens disabling the nukes. Maybe they look like massive dildos?

PhiloCypher

faceman wrote: »

The Disclosure Project has been reporting on this for years. Something to do with aliens disabling the nukes. Maybe they look like massive dildos?

Why do you think Aliens like interfering with them so much

jd007

Nodin wrote: »

...other than women....

Degsy wrote: »

And mothers in law!

Aren't mothers in law women? :pac:

Sam Vimes

My name is URL wrote: »

Who would it take to testify before anyone believed it? All you can do is take the claims at face value really

There is no testimony that would convince me of this regardless of who was giving it. However I would believe a drunken schizophrenic pathological liar....who had the slightest shred of evidence to back up his claims

sponsoredwalk

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I actually take that back - I just seen this clip of Buzz Aldrin being harassed about the moon landing being faked, he's a bad ass!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUFO8AGMwic

Sorry for all the OT posting...

:D:D:D:D

celtic Liger

cant wait for nibiru

Degsy

jd007 wrote: »

Aren't mothers in law women? :pac:

Thats what they want you to think..in reality they are bloodsucking Space Vampires.

Terry

My lodger must not be allowed to see this.
AH mods, please delete this thread.

My name is URL

Sam Vimes wrote: »

There is no testimony that would convince me of this regardless of who was giving it. However I would believe a drunken schizophrenic pathological liar....who had the slightest shred of evidence to back up his claims

What exactly would you count as evidence in a case like this? I mean short of ET landing in your back yard and declaring itself to you; I really don't see what proof there could be other than the anecdotal evidence which has been witnessed by the few people who have encountered UFOs. They haven't encountered any 'alien' btw, that's only the conclusion they came to, and it's not something I'm convinced of myself.

sponsoredwalk

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly would you count as evidence in a case like this? I mean short of ET landing in your back yard and declaring itself to you; I really don't see what proof there could be other than the anecdotal evidence which has been witnessed by the few people who have encountered UFOs. They haven't encountered any 'alien' btw, that's only the conclusion they came to, and it's not something I'm convinced of myself.

To me this counts as nothing, absolutely nothing. People were open minded
in the 50's when these stories first started coming out of army ranks and
areas related to the government and look at all the aliens around us...

You can believe this hyped-up fishwives tale if you want but it doesn't edit:not you personally!
make it any different to all of the other ones we've heard over the years.
Basically the only thing that would convince most people is hardcore
evidence and a few pilots telling us X, Y or Z is hardly that.

No offense to fishwives but an old hatred-ridden charicature was called for
in a time like this :cool:

One must seriously question the psychology of the aliens as well, but
that's another whole big rant of a post I'd rather not put up

Just 1 point, you've forced me! Why would the aliens want to let the
government know about them but not the rest of the population?
The commotion and disarray it would cause? Ha! This isn't the 1950's
where the shadow of a communist invoked the fear of god into every
red-blooded patriot there was :pac:

I'm surprised SETI didn't find them either! But, of course, these RAF
soldiers spotted them flying over, wait for it, the RAF air force base

Expect tourism to shoot up in "Britain's Roswell" anytime soon

Sam Vimes

My name is URL wrote: »

What exactly would you count as evidence in a case like this? I mean short of ET landing in your back yard and declaring itself to you; I really don't see what proof there could be other than the anecdotal evidence which has been witnessed by the few people who have encountered UFOs. They haven't encountered any 'alien' btw, that's only the conclusion they came to, and it's not something I'm convinced of myself.

In a case like this I wouldn't count anything as evidence, since there is none, there are just unsubstantiated claims. Any number of things could count as evidence, maybe radar data from the day showing something in the sky moving in a way that is impossible for a plane, photographic or video evidence of what they saw etc etc etc. But since you're talking about what proof there "could be", we could find parts of a craft made from materials not known to man or, yes, we could have video evidence of little green men exiting the space craft they just landed in. If aliens are actually flying around in the sky and landing when it takes their fancy there is an abundance of ways this could be proved but if it's just some people's imaginations running wild I would expect evidence of exactly the type that we have, ie claims of seeing strange things in the sky and arguments from authority such as "this guy's eyes can't play tricks on him like everyone else's can, he a colonel!!"

My name is URL

Sam Vimes wrote: »

In a case like this I wouldn't count anything as evidence, since there is none, there are just unsubstantiated claims. Any number of things could count as evidence, maybe radar data from the day showing something in the sky moving in a way that is impossible for a plane, photographic or video evidence of what they saw etc etc etc. But since you're talking about what proof there "could be", we could find parts of a craft made from materials not known to man or, yes, we could have video evidence of little green men exiting the space craft they just landed in. If aliens are actually flying around in the sky and landing when it takes their fancy there is an abundance of ways this could be proved but if it's just some people's imaginations running wild I would expect evidence of exactly the type that we have, ie claims of seeing strange things in the sky and arguments from authority such as "this guy's eyes can't play tricks on him like everyone else's can, he a colonel!!"

Physical proof relies on those who hold it; sharing it.. and that's not exactly guaranteed is it? Yesterdays conference, as well as the other testimonies made, did not mention aliens 'landing' (if they did then I missed that part). They mention unexplained crafts hovering over bases etc, and interfering with equipment on the ground. If I'm not mistaken, in one instance they claim that radar did in fact trace one of the objects.

Of course their authority lends some credence to what they're saying, and the fact that more than a few people witnessed the same thing would suggest that the colonels eyes were probably not playing tricks on him. I'm not saying I believe that aliens are involved fwiw, I'm merely saying that the accounts of 100+ people cannot all be without plausability.

Sam Vimes

My name is URL wrote: »

Physical proof relies on those who hold it; sharing it.. and that's not exactly guaranteed is it?

No it's not guaranteed but there have been claims like this for ~60 years. At some point I would expect there to have been something more than eye witness accounts, that is unless people's eyes are playing tricks on them. Also taking a video doesn't rely on those who hold the evidence sharing it

My name is URL wrote: »

Of course their authority lends some credence to what they're saying, and the fact that more than a few people witnessed the same thing would suggest that the colonels eyes were probably not playing tricks on him. I'm not saying I believe that aliens are involved fwiw, I'm merely saying that the accounts of 100+ people cannot all be without plausability.

The miracle of the sun was witnessed by 30,000 to 100,000 people. Should we all convert to christianity?

Priori

I would be very slow to say that evidence is what is driving this discussion, dearth or otherwise.

People in general don't believe in quantum theory because of the accumulated scientific evidence. They believe it because they are told there is an accumulation of scientific evidence. Most of the time, we cannot but help operating on this basis, and I'm not necessarily criticizing it.

People in general don't sufficiently trust their own judgement to work on the basis of evidence. Authority, and by virtue of that, the authority born of judging the evidence competently, is what drives people in general to assent.

I am speaking only generally here. My main point is that it won't be acceptable to believe in Aliens/UFOs until the vast majority of newspapers, blogs, discussion forums, television shows don't even bother debating it. Evidence will not win the day, necessarily, though it could trigger a chain-reaction, if you understand my meaning. And if that chain-reaction leads to a sufficient number of people 'believing', then that will be what is 'true' at that particular time.