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Challenge to woman's detention in Mountjoy

  • 27-09-2010 5:23pm
    #1
    Nodin
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    I've no idea if this breaches the whole sub judice thing, but presumably if it does, some of the more knowledgable will lock it.
    Lawyers for an 18-year-old woman with a history of suicide attempts and self-harm have brought High Court proceedings challenging her continued detention in Mountjoy Women's Prison.
    Her lawyers said the woman, who turned 18 in June, and had been in the care of the HSE, was refused bail and remanded in Mountjoy by a district court judge last week because he was concerned she might harm herself.
    She had been charged with assaulting a care worker and breaching the peace.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0927/court.html

    As is clear from the above article, this is an individual with a long history of mental health issues. The question is - why is she not in a medical facility (secure or otherwise)?


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  • #2
    Bottle_of_Smoke
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    Should be a secure mental facility. I see a danger here that anyone can fake suicidal behaviour and get around doing time - it would be a very hard call for a psychologist no matter how qualified.


  • #3
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It doesn't apply here, however, as theres a lot more going on than suicidal behaviour, and it predates the charges considerably. In fact you get the impression the incident itself was perhaps fuelled by ongoing difficulties. This is why I don't understand why there isn't a medical assesment to see if the person can be comitted. I doubt very much anyone - the individual, prisoners or warders - would be better off for this persons presence in a prison.


  • #4
    Gerry.L
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Gerry.L


    Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »
    Should be a secure mental facility. I see a danger here that anyone can fake suicidal behaviour and get around doing time - it would be a very hard call for a psychologist no matter how qualified.

    I cant remember which country but I read one time that a persons sentence is just put 'on-hold' while they are put into psychiatric care. As soon as they are fit to go back to jail they have start right where they left off. The theory being if they are that unstable then they wouldnt be allowed to walk the streets. So for people trying to avoid jail it would be silly. Unless of course it was somebody who was jailed for the rest of their life.... they could do it for a cushier life....


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