1 Illegal Download = 3.33 Dead Relatives

PogMoThoin

This is crazy

http://clearperspectives.tumblr.com/post/1190164737/1-illegal-download

liah

1) Good to know I'm not the only one trolling Digg in the early hours.

2) That screencap's from 2009.

3) The RIAA/MPAA needs to get their priorities straight and blatantly rip off ideas like Last.fm and 4od/Hulu that would both make them a cubic sh!tton of cash and, god forbid, actually make their customers happy.

Twats.

Gone Drinking

Its an advance, so id say they'll be getting a lot more in the coming years.

But yea, the music industry trying to make an example of one poor sucker, by fining them a fortune is just ghey

Logical Fallacy

liah wrote: »

3) The RIAA/MPAA needs to get their priorities straight and blatantly rip off ideas like Last.fm and 4od/Hulu that would both make them a cubic sh!tton of cash and, god forbid, actually make their customers happy.

Twats.

As of yet, no money has actually been paid to any artists at all. They don't give a **** about artists.

liah

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

As of yet, no money has actually been paid to any artists at all. They don't give a **** about artists.

I know, that's the worst bit. They're crying victim on the behalf of the artists even though the artists aren't making squat! Plenty of them are speaking out about it though, there's a fairly good article on the subject by Courtney Love outlining the whole thing from an artist's point of view. Various other ones out there, too, but that's what google's for and I'm too tired for google.

The whole anti-piracy thing baffles me to be totally honest. There's so many proven successful ways of coping with the internet/sharing revolution, I really don't understand why they don't shift to something like Last.fm radio for music and Hulu/4oD for TV/films. They'd get their ads in, still make a fortune, and people would download less because it's much easier to just go to the official site and stream. There's less risk that way for the user. Even services like Netflix are widely popular and could become even bigger if they actually got behind it.

Instead they're throwing their toys out of the pram complaining they're getting "stolen from." If they didn't make it so goddamn hard and just embraced the future (god that sounds corny, but in this case, the internet IS the future) everyone would be happy. They're just making it harder on everyone.

Whole thing is so unbelievably stupid.

My name is URL

Has anyone been following Torrentfreak over the last few days? Anonymous hacked the website of ACS:Law, the biggest firm specializing in IP law and accruing fines for infringement . They got hold of a fcukload of e-mails.. some very interesting reading. The entirety of which can be found on TPB

http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-anti-piracy-law-firm-torn-apart-by-leaked-emails-100925/

Snakeblood

PogMoThoin wrote: »

This is crazy

http://clearperspectives.tumblr.com/post/1190164737/1-illegal-download

Are these relatives I like, or the normal sort?

Scuid Mhór

you wouldn't download a car.

Professey Chin

Giant Squid wrote: »

you wouldn't download a car.

If I could id do it in an instant.

Wait.Does DLC count? If so Ivew downloaded Lamborghinis and stuff

Yawns

I would if I could

Cuddlesworth

I think the better question is what car would you download?

monkeypants

Should artists be paid for their work? Yes.
Should people be able to get their work without paying? No

But FFS, when I've bought/rented a DVD can you please stop making me sit through a load of anti-piracy ****e? Why do you want to piss off your paying customers?

Meanwhile, anyone who copies the movie immediately rips out all the anti-piracy nonsense.

Lockstep

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

As of yet, no money has actually been paid to any artists at all. They don't give a **** about artists.

liah wrote: »

I know, that's the worst bit. They're crying victim on the behalf of the artists even though the artists aren't making squat! Plenty of them are speaking out about it though, there's a fairly good article on the subject by Courtney Love outlining the whole thing from an artist's point of view. Various other ones out there, too, but that's what google's for and I'm too tired for google.

The whole anti-piracy thing baffles me to be totally honest. There's so many proven successful ways of coping with the internet/sharing revolution, I really don't understand why they don't shift to something like Last.fm radio for music and Hulu/4oD for TV/films. They'd get their ads in, still make a fortune, and people would download less because it's much easier to just go to the official site and stream. There's less risk that way for the user. Even services like Netflix are widely popular and could become even bigger if they actually got behind it.

Instead they're throwing their toys out of the pram complaining they're getting "stolen from." If they didn't make it so goddamn hard and just embraced the future (god that sounds corny, but in this case, the internet IS the future) everyone would be happy. They're just making it harder on everyone.

Whole thing is so unbelievably stupid.

Damn straight. we all use free ways of listening to stuff like LastFm and Myspace music. If the music is good, we'll be seeing the band in concert and buying their CDs.

bonerm

Giant Squid wrote: »

you wouldn't download a car.

Which reminds me, Gran Turismo 5 demo must be out soon?

speedboatchase

monkeypants wrote: »

Should artists be paid for their work? Yes.
Should people be able to get their work without paying? No

But FFS, when I've bought/rented a DVD can you please stop making me sit through a load of anti-piracy ****e? Why do you want to piss off your paying customers?

Meanwhile, anyone who copies the movie immediately rips out all the anti-piracy nonsense.

Wait.. so how do they get paid again?

folan

i thought that was a threat.

phew!

kjl

liah wrote: »

I know, that's the worst bit. They're crying victim on the behalf of the artists even though the artists aren't making squat! Plenty of them are speaking out about it though, there's a fairly good article on the subject by Courtney Love outlining the whole thing from an artist's point of view. Various other ones out there, too, but that's what google's for and I'm too tired for google.

The whole anti-piracy thing baffles me to be totally honest. There's so many proven successful ways of coping with the internet/sharing revolution, I really don't understand why they don't shift to something like Last.fm radio for music and Hulu/4oD for TV/films. They'd get their ads in, still make a fortune, and people would download less because it's much easier to just go to the official site and stream. There's less risk that way for the user. Even services like Netflix are widely popular and could become even bigger if they actually got behind it.

Instead they're throwing their toys out of the pram complaining they're getting "stolen from." If they didn't make it so goddamn hard and just embraced the future (god that sounds corny, but in this case, the internet IS the future) everyone would be happy. They're just making it harder on everyone.

Whole thing is so unbelievably stupid.

I would harldy call Courtney Love an "artist", more like drugged up whore.

smokedeels

It's a statistic that's often cited in this argument.

"those who download 'free' music are also the industry's largest audience for digital sales"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/apr/21/study-finds-pirates-buy-more-music

It's never been about financial loss as a result of illegal downloads.

IMO The music industries - now realised - fear is losing control, loosing the power to promote music as they see fit, to structure current trends in a manner they exploit for financial gain.

For instance: they no longer decide which media outlet hears an artists carefully-chosen single first, anyone can hear the full album pre-release date and post an unbiased amateur-review on a blog.

The product (music) is being viewed independently, without suggestion or clever-marketing ideas pushing it, sales are down because it turned out that the mainstream version of the product wasn't very good.

CrazyRabbit

Get rid of the record companies & purchase directly from artists.

Sure, they might not earn €10 million from an album that took 3 weeks to record but I don't know many other jobs that pays such an exorbitant salary.

strobe

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Get rid of the record companies & purchase directly from artists.

Sure, they might not earn €10 million from an album that took 3 weeks to record but I don't know many other jobs that pays such an exorbitant salary.

Exactly. In the past artists needed record companies. It's expensive to record in a studio and then manufacture 100,000 cd's with packaging etc. Artists needed companies to front the costs. They simply do not need them anymore. The quality of home recording and mixing equipment is incredible nowadays, and inexpensive (look at the XX), a website can be set up for next to nothing, mp3's to sell from the site themselves cost zero. Artists need to simply cut out the middle man. Like you say they might not make $10million from an album but if that's the only reason they are making music they can go fukk themselves. Sell albums yourself for $5 each digitally and for only 10,000 sold you will have made about $45,000 net profit. That's good fukking money for doing something you love and millions of people all over the world happily do just for fun. If you sell more than that and then add onto that the money you will get from gigging and you could easily be making more than a doctor or top solicitor, for playing music.