Freudian Slip

Liam Byrne

Just heard an interview on the news with an FF TD and he started to say "we put the party..... I mean, put the country before the party"

Freudian slip, near truth or simple mistake ?

You decide....

caseyann

I would say it is exactly how he in his mind heard it and had to catch himself. :mad:

PeterIanStaker

I'd agree, he definitely got his words mixed up, now I havent heard the interview, nor will I waste my time doing so, but such is the depth of my cynicism that it fails to suprise me.

Biggins

Cowen himself said a year ago at a party meeting in Athlone that to him it was "Loyalty to the party first" "Service to our country second" and somewhat shockingly thirdly "a determination to do always my best for the people"
(15th of September 2009)

TAOISEACH Brian Cowen yesterday admitted he must do better and revealed that loyalty to Fianna Fail is his guiding principle.

Assuring Fianna Fail colleagues he would not let them down, Mr Cowen put forward the set of principles that have guided him since he was first elected as a TD 25 years ago -- with "loyalty to the party" listed first, "service to our country" second, and "a determination to always do my best for the people" third.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/cowen-tells-his-troops-he-must-do-better-1886405.html

Enda Kenny even quoted his very words back at him in Dail 2 days later: http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2009-09-17.4.0

It was commented by myself and others at the time.
Example: http://www.limerickblogger.ie/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2726

SkepticOne

I doubt if most TDs have a huge amount of interest in or knowledge of national issues in the first place. The sort of conflict a FF TD might face would be whether or not to oppose, for example, the closure of a hospital in the TD's constituent. In opposing it he is going against the interests of his party in favour of his own interests as local TD.

If it was some other party in power then there would be no conflict, the measure would simply be opposed outright. The conflict is really party vs individual not party vs country.

I think it is fairly clear that the issue that will bring down the government is something like this. As the economic crisis progresses more and more FF TDs will be forced oppose their party in order to hang on to their seats and eventually FF will lose their hold on power.

flutered

i think that i read in the limerick forum where labour td jan o sullivan when a constituent asked her to support the continuation of us military flights in and out of shannon, replied that it is against her beliefs to do so, one has to assume that this type of behaviour runs across all partys.

mikemac

A lot of people in Limerick and Clare are aware the US military are a large part of the turnover for Shannon.

For a local TD to come out and say it's against their belief may be noble but may lose a lot of local support

The flights will stop eventually and Shannon will be in every more trouble then it is already in.

Liam Byrne

flutered wrote: »

i think that i read in the limerick forum where labour td jan o sullivan when a constituent asked her to support the continuation of us military flights in and out of shannon, replied that it is against her beliefs to do so, one has to assume that this type of behaviour runs across all partys.

That's a vote for Jan from me!

Not sure what it has to do with the thread topic, though.

Shea O'Meara

You've all got it so wrong;

It's me, my pals, the party, the country;)