Students challenge relocation to Galway

JONJO THE MISER

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0923/students.html

This makes my blood boil, here we are in the middle of a depression with a budget that will cut billions 2 months away and we have 4 girls who came here from Nigeria 2 years ago taking a action against the H.S.E to the high court, costing us millions i presume.
Why the hell should we provide any thing to these people, we owe people from Nigeria nothing zero zilch.

OutlawPete

I don't blame them.

Galway's a kip, wouldn't be caught dead there :mad:

dr.bollocko

OOoh.
I've got just the youtube clip for this exact situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnd5ilKx2Y

Kasabian

I spent a week there..





Must have been good

Orange69

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0923/students.html

This makes my blood boil, here we are in the middle of a depression with a budget that will cut billions 2 months away and we have 4 girls who came here from Nigeria 2 years ago taking a action against the H.S.E to the high court, costing us millions i presume.
Why the hell should we provide any thing to these people, we owe people from Nigeria nothing zero zilch.

Should have been deported immediately after they first arrived. Blame the liberal morons.

JONJO THE MISER

Orange69 wrote: »

Should have been deported immediately after they first arrived. Blame the liberal morons.

I cant understand how they were left in, where are the direct flights from Nigeria to Ireland? There are none is the answer. Have we got any immigration control in this country:mad:.
So we leave them in and they end up costing us millions:mad:

Kasabian

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I cant understand how they were left in, where are the direct flights from Nigeria to Ireland? There are none is the answer. Have we got any immigration control in this country:mad:.
So we leave them in and they end up costing us millions:mad:

Are you not the bloke that takes pride in collecting the dole each week.
I might be wrong, if so , I apologise in advance.

ancapailldorcha

It doesn't say whether or not they are illegal immigrants.

squod

The direct flights point is a goodun. Hadn't thought about it before.

Monsieur Folie

I think it's ridiculous that we're allowing this.

I'm not racist or xenophobic, but as a nation we need to get ourselves out of the rut we're in before we should be caring for immigrants (possibly illegal too, wasn't mentioned).

Taking high court action after our country was good enough to take them in is downright ridiculous. **** the ruling, if they're that ungrateful we should just send 'em back.

If I was a poor, 'unaccompanied minor' entering a first world country from a third world country, and had them care for me, and educate me, I would not be causing a massive fuss if they fecked me across the country to study elsewhere.

If they hate it so much, send them home. End of.

Gone West

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It doesn't say whether or not they are illegal immigrants.

Yeah but they sure as hell are not paying their way or working, paying income tax etc.
They are parasites.

TimeToShine

Unless they have solid proof that these 4 girls who've been living in Ireland for two years and know about 5 words of English had the potential to accomplish anything decent in the LC then it shouldn't be worth anything. The fúcking settlement will be worth more than they'll earn in their entire lives.

ancapailldorcha

Fuzzy wrote: »

Yeah but they sure as hell are not paying their way or working, paying income tax etc.
They are parasites.

Fair point.

up for anything

TimeToShine wrote: »

Unless they have solid proof that these 4 girls who've been living in Ireland for two years and know about 5 words of English had the potential to accomplish anything decent in the LC then it shouldn't be worth anything. The fúcking settlement will be worth more than they'll earn in their entire lives.

Link?

Two of the students were living in hostel accommodation in Galway and went without lunch on some days because they could not return to the hostel for lunch. They were unaware that a packed lunch could be provided.

They don't sound like girls with their hands in the government's pocket.

JONJO THE MISER

We have already had another scam artist from Nigeria in Sligo costing us millions and i read somewhere that they are thousands of Nigerians on social welfare and getting rent allowance, why the heck should we support these con artists, they came here claiming refugee status when in fact they were just economic migrants or they came here by getting a woman pregnant and being allowed stay here by having a child born here.
The interesting part about this is most of the ones who were allowed to stay in 2005 under the Irish born child scheme will have to renew there leave to remain next year.
What i want to know is are they going to renew the ones who have criminal convictions here and the ones who are claiming social welfare here because these people's leave to remain should be cancelled and deported back to where they came from.

ejmaztec

Orange69 wrote: »

Should have been deported immediately after they first arrived. Blame the liberal morons.

They'd hardly deport them before they arrived.

My name is URL

Is this going to turn out like the Mosney thread.. where everyone is either a racist or a pinko liberal?

ILA

One causing trouble on the bus today, little rats getting paid to live here with free accommodation, food and water, transport, healthcare, education. It's an absolute disgrace, we wouldn't give that to our own!

Sea Sharp

They should be given a caravan and a kick up the hole when the arrive in our country.

ejmaztec

My name is URL wrote: »

Is this going to turn out like the Mosney thread.. where everyone is either a racist or a pinko liberal?

There are only pinko-racists left now. Even the liberals have bought pitchforks.:(

ILA

ejmaztec wrote: »

There are only pinko-racists left now. Even the liberals have bought pitchforks.:(

About time too!

Pherekydes

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I cant understand how they were left in, where are the direct flights from Nigeria to Ireland? There are none is the answer. Have we got any immigration control in this country:mad:.
So we leave them in and they end up costing us millions:mad:

We've let in many immigrants before these four and quite a few haven't cost us millions (your exaggerated estimate). Maybe it's to do with the gob****es who think it's good to treat these people like footballs, bouncing them all over the country.

Fuzzy wrote: »

Yeah but they sure as hell are not paying their way or working, paying income tax etc.
They are parasites.

My kids don't work and are not paying taxes. Maybe if we let these people finish their education they could join the workforce and start paying taxes?

DonJose

"The four girls, who arrived in Ireland from Africa two years ago as unaccompanied minors, were cared for in Dublin at first, but were moved to adult hostel accommodation in Galway when they reached the age of 18."

They are adults now, process their asylum application, if they fail then ship them back, end of story!!!

JONJO THE MISER

Pherekydes wrote: »

We've let in many immigrants before these four and quite a few haven't cost us millions (your exaggerated estimate). Maybe it's to do with the gob****es who think it's good to treat these people like footballs, bouncing them all over the country.?

Yes we have let in legal immigrants the difference is they were legal not scam artist bogus asylum seekers out to bleed everything they can out of this country. On your second point maybe they think its good to treat the Irish taxpayers like they personal slaves.

Micky Dolenz

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yes we have let in legal immigrants the difference is they were legal not scam artist bogus asylum seekers out to bleed everything they can out of this country. On your second point maybe they think its good to treat the Irish taxpayers like they personal slaves.

Are you suggesting that the four girls are of the above description?

Orange69

ejmaztec wrote: »

They'd hardly deport them before they arrived.

That would actually be the ideal situation.

JONJO THE MISER

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Are you suggesting that the four girls are of the above description?

Well there is no direct flights between Ireland and Nigeria, last time i checked we had no open labour market between Ireland and Nigeria.
So they came here because they wanted a easy life at the expense of Irish taxpayers and most likely claiming they were fleeing persecution from Nigeria:rolleyes: when in fact it has been proven on countless occasions that Nigerians are nothing more than economic migrants not legitimate refugee's.
I will try and find a link by the relevant department where it shows that 98% of all Nigerians are rejected for refugee status in this country because they are just economic migrants wanting a soft ride.
Time to call a spade a spade in this country and less of this political correctness malarkey.

Micky Dolenz

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Well there is no direct flights between Ireland and Nigeria, last time i checked we had no open labour market between Ireland and Nigeria.
So they came here because they wanted a easy life at the expense of Irish taxpayers and most likely claiming they were fleeing persecution from Nigeria:rolleyes: when in fact it has been proven on countless occasions that Nigerians are nothing more than economic migrants not legitimate refugee's.
I will try and find a link by the relevant department where it shows that 98% of all Nigerians are rejected for refugee status in this country because they are just economic migrants wanting a soft ride.
Time to call a spade a spade in this country and less of this political correctness malarkey.

Oh, I see now, so it really has nothing to do with the four girls, it's all Nigerians you have a problem with?

byhookorbycrook

I thought the state would not be liable for anyone's education once over 18, as in several high profile special needs cases?

Pherekydes

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Are you suggesting that the four girls are of the above description?

Yes he is.

JONJO THE MISER

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Oh, I see now, so it really has nothing to do with the four girls, it's all Nigerians you have a problem with?

Yes it is all the ones who came here by either lying or getting a woman pregnant in order to stay, they came here under false pretences and it shows when 98% of them are found out to be bogus aslylum seekers by our own goverment.
Some people live in a great world where they think we should support people who lie and decieve to get into a country.

MonkeyTennis

This thread is a disgrace. If the moderation team can get on their high horses about slagging off celebs then how come thinly veiled bigotry is tolerated?

pickarooney

Fuzzy wrote: »

Yeah but they sure as hell are not paying their way or working, paying income tax etc.
They are parasites.

Did the first word in the thread title give that away?

Micky Dolenz

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

This thread is a disgrace. If the moderation team can get on their high horses about slagging off celebs then how come thinly veiled bigotry is tolerated?

If you have a problem with a thread/post, report it.

almostnever

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yes it is all the ones who came here by either lying or getting a woman pregnant in order to stay, they came here under false pretences and it shows when 98% of them are found out to be bogus aslylum seekers by our own goverment.
Some people live in a great world where they think we should support people who lie and decieve to get into a country.

Are you being serious, yeah? If so, I really am speechless.

El Weirdo

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I cant understand how they were left in, where are the direct flights from Nigeria to Ireland? There are none is the answer. Have we got any immigration control in this country:mad:.
So we leave them in and they end up costing us millions:mad:

I think that you may have missed this question Jonjo:

Kasabian wrote: »

Are you not the bloke that takes pride in collecting the dole each week.
I might be wrong, if so , I apologise in advance.

Care to answer the man?

Pherekydes

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yes it is all the ones who came here by either lying or getting a woman pregnant in order to stay, they came here under false pretences and it shows when 98% of them are found out to be bogus aslylum seekers by our own goverment.

Where do you get this bull**** from? Do you invent it?

ejmaztec

Orange69 wrote: »

That would actually be the ideal situation.

You can't deport people when they're not here.

OutlawPete

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

This thread is a disgrace. If the moderation team can get on their high horses about slagging off celebs then how come thinly veiled bigotry is tolerated?

I am not saying he is, but why should someone be banned for being a bigot?

If there views are sooo ludicrous and outrageous, then surely it should not be too difficult for you come up with a suitable reply that will make little of their arguments.

Why must we always wish to ban views that we don't find palatable.

Once no personal abuse is involved, I don't see the problem.

Orange69

ejmaztec wrote: »

You can't deport people when they're not here.

But you can prevent them from getting on the plane in the first place, which is what we should be doing.

MonkeyTennis

who said anything about a ban?

I dont give a flying f*ck about the 'rules' in this forum.

I find the OPs opinions utterly distasteful. He's using 'facts' that he hasnt a hope of backing up in his argument and I find it somewhat unevenly handed that hes given time and space to vent this garbage when other opinions about less important aspects of life are clamped down upon

But anyhoo..do carry on.

baldbear

Why did these girls come to Ireland and not stay in the UK? Is it because they know ireland is such a soft touch?

It annoys me to see the carers allowance been cut, and then people coming here to try to take advantage of our generous benefits. Our state is looking after them and they still aren't happy.

squod

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

who said anything about a ban?

I dont give a flying f*ck about the 'rules' in this forum.

I find the OPs opinions utterly distasteful. He's using 'facts' that he hasnt a hope of backing up in his argument and I find it somewhat unevenly handed that hes given time and space to vent this garbage when other opinions about less important aspects of life are clamped down upon

But anyhoo..do carry on.

Cool story bro.

Absurdum

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

who said anything about a ban?

I dont give a flying f*ck about the 'rules' in this forum.

I find the OPs opinions utterly distasteful. He's using 'facts' that he hasnt a hope of backing up in his argument and I find it somewhat unevenly handed that hes given time and space to vent this garbage when other opinions about less important aspects of life are clamped down upon

But anyhoo..do carry on.

all you've done is whinge in this thread, either put up or shut up

Gone West

Pherekydes wrote: »

My kids don't work and are not paying taxes. Maybe if we let these people finish their education they could join the workforce and start paying taxes?

Do your kids take frivolous cases to the high court at massive expense to the taxpayer?

Pherekydes

Fuzzy wrote: »

Do your kids take frivolous cases to the high court at massive expense to the taxpayer?

What's frivolous about their case? A human being has a right to some consistency in their life. Students will do better if they know they can go home to the same accommodation more than one night in a row.

squod

squod wrote: »

Cool story bro.

Stop.

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If you don't have an opinion to express, don't say anything at all. Gah.

mikom

In regards to this thread, I think Bricktop said it best.....

"Listen here, you fucking fringe. If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes good or not."

sunflour

I'm a student. I was refused back to education because I was a few days short on my social welfare claim (which I was receiving because I'd lost my job, not left it). All I have coming in during term-time is €3250. Would love if the HSE gave me €19 a week & paid for my accommodation.

catspajamas

This is probably not straightfoward as it reads

I do think however that our emigration laws need a serious overhaul
we do need to look after our own first

that said we still had people here on "Unemployment" when anyone who actually wanted a job could have gotten one - so I think the entire Social Welfare system needs tighter controls!
I have 2 sons students who we support & we are proud to do so
its just a shame not everyone takes pride in providing for their families

Duggy747

Something doesn't seem right in this report, I'd let it pan out until I'd make any sort of comment regarding what "Them dar foreigners" are doing.

Still, I don't blame the Nigerian girls over this High Court debacle, moreso the liberals and solicitors pleading the weeping heart case. It's a shame our government treats these poor kittens so badly, I mean, they'd probably have a better, more fulfilling life if they went back to their own countries*



* = Sarcasm Alert!