Irish Oral

Cakes.

Are the 2011 junior cert student doing an Irish Oral ..?

My teacher doesn't know whats going on but she thinks we are one day and we aren't another, it is starting to get annoying.

Anyone who knows anything please tell me !!

Thanks

readystudypass

The Irish Oral is optional for Junior Cert.

http://www.examinations.ie/exam/S_73_09_Junior_Certificate_Irish_Examination_in_2010_and_after.pdf

Cakes.

Thanks For that.
No doubt when I say it to my teacher she will come up with some answer and give out to me.

thanks

Cakes.

Our teacher decided for us and were doing it...

She doesnt have a clue if some one is coming to do it our if a teacher in the school is doing it though

Chaotic_Forces

Cakesofrice wrote: »

Our teacher decided for us and were doing it...

She doesnt have a clue if some one is coming to do it our if a teacher in the school is doing it though

Okay I just read it about ten times.

Bottom line is it is optional. There is no fu*king way you HAVE to sit it. Now she could mean as part of the mock/pre-exams, that's fine. But if you really don't want to do it, then say so. Stand up for yourself. Is she turns into a bitch and says "you've to do it", just don't argue. Just say "alright, fine" and leave it. Then ring up and ask yourself (or get your parents to do it).

Oh and there is no way in Hell that someone under than a licensed examiner would do it. Letting a teacher from a school do it would mean youse would all do wonderfully well. What's next? Schools correcting the tests too :P

spurious

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Oh and there is no way in Hell that someone under than a licensed examiner would do it. Letting a teacher from a school do it would mean youse would all do wonderfully well. What's next? Schools correcting the tests too :P

There are already subjects where students are assessed by their own teachers. This is then externally moderated by a visiting monitor.

Chaotic_Forces

spurious wrote: »

There are already subjects where students are assessed by their own teachers. This is then externally moderated by a visiting monitor.

I don't really understand what you mean. Can you clarify for me please?

Parawhore.xD

When I did my german oral for my Junior Cert last year my teacher did it with us and corrected it but then sent it off to another examiner for the second round of correcting.

It's different for the leaving cert obviously but since it's the Junior Cert I think they are a but more relaxed and since another examiner is going to be checking the marking, the teachers are hardly going to be really generous and totally overlooking all mistakes as it would make them look bad and unable to be impartial, which I think personally would reflect worse on them as teachers than a pupil doing badly IMHO

SportsGreatest

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

I don't really understand what you mean. Can you clarify for me please?

I'm not certain, but I think he may be referring to the practical sections of both Woodwork and Metalwork?

Chaotic_Forces

SportsGreatest wrote: »

I'm not certain, but I think he may be referring to the practical sections of both Woodwork and Metalwork?

Ooh... I was so wrong. I thought he was talking about Irish only.

I thought that oral examinations would be only based on the examiner and not the actual teacher?

spurious

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Ooh... I was so wrong. I thought he was talking about Irish only.

I thought that oral examinations would be only based on the examiner and not the actual teacher?

At the moment for Junior that is the case, but there is nothing inherently wrong with teachers assessing their own students once the work is then double checked. This is why some orals at Leaving are taped. The SEC is always looking at ways to do things differently.

If anything teachers tend to be a bit harder than necessary on their own students, not easier, certainly when they are first involved in marking. There is no great disparity in the marks given by experienced teachers and external monitors.

gaeilgegrinds1

It is a choice alright but if the class is doing it then the whole class does it, you can't have half in and half out. We're deciding to do it with our first years onwards from this year, not third years as ye have not had enough of practise, least not in my school.

Cakes.

We were told at the start of last year. Were doing one for the pre but a load of people in my class are probably going to do pass for the junior anyway

gaeilgegrinds1

Pass or not though, they could well still have to do it. I'd get clarification on this from your teacher.