Pronate , neutral blah blah blah

Defrost

I have tormented every running shoe retail outlet for over a month now regarding gait analysis. In Wheelworx, Clondalkin the chap said I over pronate.However the ware on my runners is on the outside which according to the websites is not an over pronator.I have ran the Irish runner 5 miler, Frank Duffy 10miler and this weekend the Half Marathon all with little or no leg pain but with a severe Blood blister on the right foot on the arch/instep. Websites have said it may be from Asics trainers with the high instep.So as you can see I’m very confused and would hate not to finish my first marathon in October because of a blister.So what I am asking really is can anyone help?

macinalli

What type of Asics do you have? I used to wear Asics Gel Nimbus but the current ones gave me a lot of trouble with blisters on the ball of my foot. I eventually broke the shoe in, but it probably took about 100 miles and a lot of cursing on my part...

Fi H

Try the blister spray you can get in boots - its really good! flexitol brand.

misty floyd

Not sure if this is of use http://www.footminders.com/pronation-shoe-wear.html

they are saying that wear on the outside of the heal can mean you may over pronate. Seems to be for walking though so not sure if it relates.

I found the Nimbus tight fitting at first. That might be the problem, and could be nothing to do with pronation etc. I went back to my nimbus and really like them now.

Jnealon

Vasaline is your friend here. Also try different socks.
At least you are running injury free

TFBubendorfer

Defrost wrote: »

I have ran the Irish runner 5 miler, Frank Duffy 10miler and this weekend the Half Marathon all with little or no leg pain but with a severe Blood blister on the right foot on the arch/instep. Websites have said it may be from Asics trainers with the high instep.

That's interesting, I have used dozens of different shoes but the only time I got a blood blister (a massive one - over an inch in diameter) was when I wore a pair of Asics DS trainers during the Dublin marathon a few years ago, and exactly on the same spot, the arch/instep. Those shoes constantly gave me blisters but it stopped when I threw out the insoles and replaced them with some very cheap, thin ones.

I've never had gait analysis done, but trial-and-error led me to neutral shoes. That's just my own experience, though.

shels4ever

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I've never had gait analysis done, but trial-and-error led me to neutral shoes. That's just my own experience, though.

I've had it done 3 times and basically haad 3 different view of what was going on, I don't think a 15 min review is good enough .

Tipp man running

Just on the subject of the nimbus 12's, this is the shoe i use for doing marathons and have done three in my current pair. When you buy them new you'd be better off replacing the insoles as the ones that come with them are very poor for such a pricey runner. I had the same blister problem when i switched to them the first time but i found changing the insoles a big help but also changing my socks. Used to use cheap socks but when i switched to better quality running socks i found this done away with the blister problem almost immediately. It's well worth a try as i now find them a seriously good cushioned runner.

macinalli

A bit late for me - gave up on the Nimbus and moved to Brooks Glycerins. A very good shoe, none of the blister troubles and about €25 cheaper:)

Poncherello

I had this problem a couple of years ago and it put me out of the marathon I was training for. The proper socks and a 15 min gait analysis got me sorted to shoes that didnt give me that blister. I feel your pain though and sometimes I feel that it was just that I kept on running that my body eventually adapted.
On long runs lately I have gotten the odd twinge in that area and itscares the beejaysus out of me !!
I currently have other issues now and Im not sure the gait analysis you get in the shops is any good at all. Its a bit of a gimmick really.
Best of luck with it

Emer911

My two cents... the right socks and lots of BodyGlide (stuff like vaseline, but not as gooey and made for running)

Good luck with it. I know how painful blisters can be.

Defrost

Cheers Everyone for your support. I bought the 1000mile sock a few months back, I'm not sure if anyone can recommend anything better. Also fair point on the Body Glide vaseline I used the normal Petroleum Jelly on the 5 mile race and my feet were as soft as a baby's bum but with a blister the size of an old 50p piece. While we are talking kit is anyone using compression socks?.
I am new to running and I'm afraid I'd miss a trick. At the end of the day the goal is to say "I ran a marathon" and raised a few quid for the National Childrens Hospital Tallaght. I've heard there's a Physiotherapist in Clondalkin that is a triathlete and it might be 50euro well spent instead of time wasted with a spotty kid in a retail shop where the analysis leads to yes you've guessed it...... the dearest runner on sale in the shop.

“Really great people make you feel that you, too, can become great.” Mark Twain.

Fi H

I switched to smart wool socks and stopped getting blisters but not sure if they have ones that would suit you. If you want proper gait analysis done I suggest David Kingston in the Leinster Clinic in Maynooth. Its all he does and he w orks with the hospitals in relation to orthotics. You could have the same experience with a physio as a shop unless they are properly qualified!

kingQuez

Hey Defrost, it sounds like you're fairly new to running? I kept getting blisters during the first year I was running, it just took a while for my feet to get used to it (not a pretty sight after the first dublin marathon). As the others have suggested, use bodyglide on your feet where they blister to avoid them happneing and compeede plasters when you already have them to avoid it getting worse.

Are your shoes comfortable? Too loose and your feet will move about in them, causing them to chaffe and result in blisters... too tight and they'll get pinched and result in blisters too. The fit may be fine but you may not be lacing them tight enough/too tight, have you experimentd with this? Dont forget over a long run your feet will start to swell. I've had to cut bits out of the insoles in shoes in the past where there was a 'sharp' transition from the insole to the sidewall of the runner.

Without moisture you'll generally fair better on the blister front too; thats where the fancy technical socks come in.. theyre meant to wick away moisture from the skin. Everyone has their own preference for socks, some that one person swears by will routinely still cause blisters for another. Its another trial + error thing really.

I wouldnt write off the ability of a young kid in a shop to do gait analysis; if its somewhere with a good reputation (runways, amphibian king etc.?) you can be pretty sure they're experienced and know what they're at. I wouldn't be in a rush to go to the physio over this; once your feet, legs, knees etc. are all fine and its purely blistering it sounds like its the sort of thing you'll resolve with trial and error.

back to form

The inital contact when running is on the outside of the shoe so not always a true analysis if looking at wear only.
hope your feet get better,also what was your previous shoe and what is your current one?

Peemaccee

Rather than buy a new insole you could get a stanley knife and remove a portion of the insole where the problem occurs.
An alternative to modification of the insole is to get some zinc oxide tape and liberally cover the area of concern on the foot. It works wonders, though I would normally do this for races only. Wouldn't recommend this for an area where a blister exists or has just burst.

Stark

I used to love the Asics 20x0s. But then they started producing them with higher in steps or something and I had to switch to other shoes as I started getting severe blisters from them.

I had a similar problem with a pair of Nikes before but there turned out to be a tab underneath the sole on the inner side of my foot that I could pull off to make the sole lower.