British police helicopter chases multicoloured ball of light - high quality video

GarlicBread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05M0mGtkbQA

I would have put this on the CT forums but i think it has a little relevance here given the posts over the last few days. Heres a london police helicopter video of a ball of light which then speeds up and turns bright orange/red. Crazy stuff alltogather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05M0mGtkbQA

Nate--IRL--

Chinese lantern if ever I saw one.

Edit:- just read the read of the A&S forum. Is it a full moon or something?

Nate

CrazyBiscuit

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Chinese lantern if ever I saw one.

Nate

It does really resemble a Chinese lantern.

charlemont

seem some funky orange/red lights to the south east of cork city on saturday night bout quarter to ten, thing is the first one stopped and hovered , then a triangle formation appeared behind it with one of the spheres having another one very close to it they moved parallel and another one followed behind it, they vanished then, thing was iv seen chinese lanterns before , im not fully convinced about it yet , it may well have been lanterns but iv seen some strange stuff last august ill post it in another thread..

Cú Giobach

GarlicBread wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05M0mGtkbQA

I would have put this on the CT forums but i think it has a little relevance here given the posts over the last few days. Heres a london police helicopter video of a ball of light which then speeds up and turns bright orange/red. Crazy stuff alltogather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05M0mGtkbQA

Looks exactly like a CL floating gently through the sky, with a helecopter buzzing around it .
Just wondering what this has to do with astronomy or space.
The way things are here lately, I think I'll post a few vids of my dogs chasing balls.

Cú Giobach

charlemont wrote: »

seem some funky orange/red lights to the south east of cork city on saturday night bout quarter to ten, thing is the first one stopped and hovered , then a triangle formation appeared behind it with one of the spheres having another one very close to it they moved parallel and another one followed behind it, they vanished then, thing was iv seen chinese lanterns before , im not fully convinced about it yet , it may well have been lanterns but iv seen some strange stuff last august ill post it in another thread..

Occam's razor.

Calibos

The grainy video the other day had me mildly perplexed with the multi-coloured flashing light. I was pretty sure it was an optical artifact from the camera/lense etc. This video just confirms it. There is a portion of the vid in non night vision mode where this object does the same thing except in this vid when it goes back to nightvision and you see a closeup you actually see the faint shape of the lantern bag with the flame at the bottom.

I know see why my claims of looking at these things with my binoculars/scope doesn't convince many people. Heres a close-up vid from a Police Helicopter chasing one where you can see the unmistakable shape of a chinese lantern and there are still people who believe it was a UFO and not a CL. Looks like some people just don't want to be convinced. They seem to have this deep rooted desire to feel like they saw something special.

Beeker

Calibos wrote: »

I Looks like some people just don't want to be convinced. They seem to have this deep rooted desire to feel like they saw something special.

It's all part of the human condition I'm afraid. It can be UFO's, ghosts or even gods....people just want to beleive that there is something mysterious out there. Carl Sagan put it perfectly:

"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe. "

GarlicBread

Very well could be a chinese lantern and i have no doubt that many sightings are of lanterns. I think there is somthing more going on with these balls tho.

Heres a few more recent videos of the same stuff, none of the following are likely to be chinese lanterns. Not in my opinion anyway .

This one is from dublin the other day, posted on another thread, it is clearly flashing multiple colours and not just orange/red.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLhNx8wMbF4

This is one from london the other day, read video description, towards the end of the video it starts moving away quickly while flashing violently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B85e749cn2w

Heres one from wales, same thing again with the flashing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-A31kkcTDI

Another one posted today, from god knows where. Would a chinese lantern glow that colour in broad daylight, i dont know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlMH29zalQ
From the same source as above, its white this time and comes close to a plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxhVLwExbaY

Some guy from singapore yesterday filming 3 anomalous orange/red balls that are completely stationary. One disappears and two remain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXiWjpXLTE4

Video from up north taken in the last few days, 3 balls of light appearing and disappearing in a triangle formation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Cey7kUDlw

Portugal, 3 days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX-TPFaBffA

Austrailia, last night, balls of light appearing, disappearing and preforming an astonishing aeronautical display(great footage).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQ49nghWdY

Rome, Italy, last night, the usual flashing multicoloured ball of light.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SRhD4WPZFY

Mexico, 2 days ago, good zoom, from illuminus blue to orange.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXcnZ-a_n_o

And finally, another one from london taken 3-4 days ago, a weird unexplainable ball of light in the sky that starts to flicker and flash, same source as one of the ones above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7C27C2oPL0

I wont go on anymore, i think ive made my point. Keep an eye on the night sky:cool:.

Beeker

Hard to say what exactly some of the video's show, Lanters, aircraft, Jupiter, Venus or something else. Don't forget that the U in UFO means Unidentified, it does not mean that UFO's are extraterrestrial in nature as so many want to belive.
I don't have the answers for these sightings but do believe that most if not all are explainable logically. In the history of UFO sightings there has never been a single shread of proof that they are anything other than explainable phenomena.
Don't forget that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.":)

GarlicBread

Beeker wrote: »

In the history of UFO sightings there has never been a single shread of proof that they are anything other than explainable phenomena.

:eek: The pile of evidence is so large that if i was to try and take some of it out the whole thing would collapse on top of me and crush me to death.

This thread aint about ufos/et tho, its about these balls of light that seem to be appearing all over the shop.

Cú Giobach

GarlicBread;
Very well could be a chinese lantern and i have no doubt that many sightings are of lanterns. I think there is somthing more going on with these balls tho.

Some of these are definitely planes coming in head on and then turning off to the side.
This is very common near airports, you see the "head lights" appearing to stay still for quite a while, then you see the flashing strobe as it turns and moves off to the side.
Helicopters are also very very common over cities now, shining their searchlights all over the place. You won't hear them from a distance (or if you're high up).

Others look just like those ubiquitous f*cking lanterns.

Others could be sunlight reflecting off.....well, anything that could be in the sky. Gliders, Balloons (especially those little silver ones), kites......the list is long.
Venus can be seen in daylight if you look at exactly the right spot, (I've seen it many times).

As for colours, try it yourself, film a small white light from a distance with a low resolution camera phone in the dark at full zoom.

Gonna take more than dots on youtube to get me even remotely curious.

It's not that they have suddenly started appearing, I've seen lights like these for years (except those lanterns), people have just started putting them on youtube and going WOW WTF was that, and because there is no one next to them to go "Oh, thats just a plane" or "Thats sirius flashing colours because of refraction through the atmosphere" or "thats the ISS, yes it is very bright isn't it" ......you end up with this kind of hype.

That OP was quite clearly a CL gently floating with the helicopter manouvering around, could you not see that??

Beeker

GarlicBread wrote: »

:eek: The pile of evidence is so large that if i was to try and take some of it out the whole thing would collapse on top of me and crush me to death.

This thread aint about ufos/et tho, its about these balls of light that seem to be appearing all over the shop.

This is not the place to get into evidence or lack thereof for UFO's, there is a dedicated forum for that type of thing:rolleyes:

There are many explanations for what appears in those video's including aircraft etc. One should always look to the simplest reason for these sightings, it is nearly always something simple.
I do admit one must keep an open mind but no so open that your brain falls out:)

GarlicBread

This issue here is that planes and helicopters have very specific movements and lights. Planes do not stay still, not for a second, and they do not appear as a ball of light. They have lights on the wings and underneath that are constant and are spread out. Planes can be silent when high enough but helicopters always make alot of noise and they cannot climb high.

Helicopters on the other hand can stay still but they still have the same if not similar lights as planes. Neither planes or helicopters turn there lights off and then back on, except for maybe certain government/police choppers for whatever reason. Neither planes or helicoptors have a single light that flashes all the colours of the rainbow. They have multiple lights that flash or flicker a certain single colour in an aviationally uniform way.

TBH i would have to admit, mistaking a plane or helicopter for a ufo would be a serously stupid thing do to, but it probably does happen:pac:.

As i said before, the reason im interested in these things is because i have become increasingly aware of what appear to be stars but tend to flash different colours. Last week i saw one of them move for the first time which is making me curious as to wheather they are stars at all.

I have seen chinese lanterns a few months ago but they are not what im on about, unless somone is attaching IED lights to chinese lanterns as somone so elequently suggested on another thread. Cant blame a man for at least trying to explain :rolleyes:.

Cú Giobach

GarlicBread wrote: »

This issue here is that planes and helicopters have very specific movements and lights. Planes do not stay still, not for a second, and they do not appear as a ball of light..

When a plane is coming in to land, if you are in line with its approach you will see its head lights as a steady single unmoving white light for a very long time from a great distance. You will not see either its coloured lights or its strobes.
Then if it has to turn onto final approach and the bright "headlights" are not pointed directly at you, you will then see the other lights and its lateral movement.
Fact!!
I have pointed this out to people for years, as I used to live in a place where you could see planes approaching at night from a huge distance.
At least 2 (without bothering to re-check) of those vids were this effect, any pilot would instantly recognise it.

It is possible to see a helicopter spot from further than you can hear it. Fact!

Most of those colours and flickering of lights were optical effects, due to the quality of the equipment and the full zoom, any one with experience of photography or using lenses eg binos, telescopes etc would understand.

Stars, especially when low in the sky often put on an amazing display of colours, due to the light refracting through air pockets of different temperature and density. They look just like distant multicoloured strobe/spot lights.

You may find this hard to believe, but after a lifetimes astronomy I could tell you if a star is out of place above. The night (and daytime) sky becomes very very familiar.
I'll ask you one question, Why don't astronomers see "unexplainable" lights?

Calibos

Whoosh, looks like the flickering multi-coloured light explanation went in one ear and out the other. I was perplexed like I said about the first YouTube link you posted there when I saw it the other day. It was confirmed to me that its an optical effect when I saw the same thing in the police vid except in the police vid instead of a grainy shaky handheld shot we get a close-up from a Police helicopter too. What do we see? A long tubular Chinese Lantern bag with the flame at the bottom silouetted in front of the streetlights below. Plain as day. One of the lads even posted a pic in the other thread of the tubular versions being launched en masse at a festival in the far east. But seeing as you don't seem to be able to see the Lantern bag you wont accept the coloured flickering being an optical effect.

As for the Aussie Vid. Thats some lads having a bit of a laugh with some LED's tied to a pair of kites. The lads are probably pissing themselves laughing now that the plan worked. They've probably been searching youtube for Austrailia and UFO tags since their prank and bingo, someone in the apartment complex nearby made the prank all worthwhile by thinking they saw a UFO, videoing it and posting it to YouTube. Someone probably won a bet on that. The sudden sharp turns and dives and climbs has Kite written all over it as does the fact that they got closer and closer to the ground.

I wont go on anymore, i think ive made my point. Keep an eye on the night sky

Thats the thing, we do know the night sky and keep our eyes, ears, Bino's and Telescopes on it and we never see anything we couldn't really explain.