Tom Kitt : Cowen should resign and call election

hinault

Looks like the ranks are breaking, Tom Kitt has called on Cowen to resign
in a statment issued a few moments ago

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0921/1224279367544.html

ninty9er

hinault wrote: »

Looks like the ranks are breaking, Tom Kitt has called on Cowen to resign
in a statment issued a few moments ago

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0921/1224279367544.html

He said this hours ago...on the 6.1 news. He didn't call for an election either.

Being entirely honest, Michael Lowry and Jackie Healy-Rae have put an end to the matter.

Move on, there's more important issues at hand than who is Taoiseach, such as what that person is doing. So forget what he sounds like, and let him get on with the job he has been elected to do.

mikemac

hinault wrote: »

in a statment issued a few moments ago

That was issued at lunchtime yesterday

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/fianna-fail-td-calls-for-meeting-to-discuss-cowen-leadership-474356.html

www.breakingnews.ie is a pretty good website

Liam Byrne

ninty9er wrote: »

So forget what he sounds like, and let him get on with the job he has been elected to do.

We don't care what he sounds like, and if he could actually do the job, it'd be great.

But he has proven beyond doubt that he can't.

Pat D. Almighty

ninty9er wrote: »

Move on, there's more important issues at hand than who is Taoiseach, such as what that person is doing. So forget what he sounds like, and let him get on with the job he has been elected to do.

But he's doing nothing, and what he has done in the past has fecked us up properly. He wasn't elected to be our Taoiseach by the way. Not by the public.

jank

ninty9er wrote: »

He said this hours ago...on the 6.1 news. He didn't call for an election either.

Being entirely honest, Michael Lowry and Jackie Healy-Rae have put an end to the matter.

Move on, there's more important issues at hand than who is Taoiseach, such as what that person is doing. So forget what he sounds like, and let him get on with the job he has been elected to do.

Yes, yes yes. Nothing to see here. Move on folks.



In other news bonds go to a record high again.....

paddyland

ninty9er wrote: »

Move on, there's more important issues at hand than who is Taoiseach, such as what that person is doing. So forget what he sounds like, and let him get on with the job he has been elected to do.

It's a pity someone wouldn't remind Cowen what his job is, as he seems to think his job as leader of Fianna Fáil begins and ends with protecting the survival of his party at all costs (and he's not even doing such a great job at that either).

Surely the job of Taoiseach is to look after the country as a whole, and not just the vested interests of a corrupt political party?

ninty9er

Pat D. Almighty wrote: »

But he's doing nothing, and what he has done in the past has fecked us up properly. He wasn't elected to be our Taoiseach by the way. Not by the public.

Blind media following I see. He's as elected as any Taoiseach before him ever was, but again, blindly following media hype.

Skrynesaver

And now he's demanded a meeting of FF ministers tomorrow morning (According to Newstalk this morning)

So if any minister refuses to back him @ this meeting will they have to go?

How bad would it be for a putative leader to get sacked by Clowen?

I can see Hanafin going for it to secure her own seat ahead of Andrews in DLR.

Martin could also do with drawing a line between himself and decisions of cabinets he's been in.

I realise I may be trying to force reality to conform to my hopes and desires, but with JHR and Lowry having declared for Cowen could this precipitate a pre-budget election,

The downside of such an early election is that it allows FF to get out before imposing a truly unpleasant budget and who knows, they might be able to pick up the pieces in 5 years after FG/LAB have done all the unpopular stuff to get the country back on track.

who_ru

ninty9er wrote: »

Blind media following I see. He's as elected as any Taoiseach before him ever was, but again, blindly following media hype.

you are the one who is blind my friend if you cannot see that cowen is a massive liabilty to FF and this country. today another 1 billion euro of debt clocked up at 6% interest.

scr123

The useless ABFF spend their miserable lives speculating about Cowen and FF. Get the message, Cowen will not resign. Cowen will not resign no matter what his faults are because it would be grossly irresponsible to hand over government to a bunch of chancers who have no ideas and are so far apart in ideology they would be a total disaster for the country. There is a max 20 months to the election and at the end draws nearer for the life of the government Cowen and FF will step up the pace and the ABFF will need shock treatment to help them recover from the onslought.

If you want to win the election stop worrying about FF as at present, start worrying about how you are going to oust them

goat2

who_ru wrote: »

you are the one who is blind my friend if you cannot see that cowen is a massive liabilty to FF and this country. today another 1 billion euro of debt clocked up at 6% interest.

depressing stuff, cowen dont have to worry on his wage, while there are too many of us out of work and have run out of cash. just barley surviving and listning to the pat kenny show last night, just put more fear into us, hearing that we have not bottomed out yet, and we are going further down,

who_ru

Yesterday on The Last Word with Matt Cooper Minister for Defence (do we even need one?) Tony Killen said we have "a perfectly functioning economy and a functioning banking system".

it is these type of woefully out of touch comments, so far removed from the reality of most people's lives that depresses most people.

aidan24326

who_ru wrote: »

Yesterday on The Last Word with Matt Cooper Minister for Defence (do we even need one?) Tony Killen said we have "a perfectly functioning economy and a functioning banking system".

it is these type of woefully out of touch comments, so far removed from the reality of most people's lives that depresses most people.

But you needn't think he actually believes that. He knows like everyone else the gravity of the situation, but as always it's spin spin spin. Keep spinning teh same bullsh1t over and over and over eventually enough people will believe it.

And btw, I agree that we should question the need for a defence minister. That should be a junior ministry at most.

Liam Byrne

aidan24326 wrote: »

And btw, I agree that we should question the need for a defence minister.

Maybe he could start defending us from FF ?

who_ru

who_ru wrote: »

you are the one who is blind my friend if you cannot see that cowen is a massive liabilty to FF and this country.

TBH, I have to wonder if anyone else in Irish politics could do any better?

Seriously, for all this bitching about Cowen and FF, is it likely that anyone else would be able to improve things quicker? This is not aiming to defend FF/Cowen. They're a bunch of wasters who have seriously messed up this country during a period of previously unseen success. But I have to wonder what decent alternative is there. Being as bad as each other isn't really a good alternative, considering the costs involved to have an election, simply to replace them with another set of retards.

Darsad

Well the opposition may well be retards also but there not drunk retards bringing disgrace on the country . I am lucky to have a job and have just come back from a conference in the UK and at the bar on Monday night I got a serious ribbing over Cowen and the Irish love of drink . So a big thank you to Cowen for knocking us back about 30 years in the eyes of our European neighbours .

Heard there is some story in the Sun about Cowen on a 12 hour bender , I wonder was it the same one where he was supposed to make a speech at a private function but had to be put to bed instead. I would say his driver could tell some tales .

Darsad

Darsad wrote: »

Well the opposition may well be retards also but there not drunk retards bringing disgrace on the country . I am lucky to have a job and have just come back from a conference in the UK and at the bar on Monday night I got a serious ribbing over Cowen and the Irish love of drink . So a big thank you to Cowen for knocking us back about 30 years in the eyes of our European neighbours .

Heard there is some story in the Sun about Cowen on a 12 hour bender , I wonder was it the same one where he was supposed to make a speech at a private function but had to be put to bed instead. I would say his driver could tell some tales .

The Irish are always ribbed about drinking too much. Its the national stereotype. And TBH I can kinda understand why he would turn to the drink considering the lack of support he gets from both his own party and the population itself. I'd prefer if people just stuck to talking about his job. If he was doing a great job, nobody would care if he was drunk every night. So why not just stick to talking about his work?

ninty9er

A) We don't know that Cowen was drunk on the radio. To be honest it's unlikely at worst. According to Eileen Brophy at RTÉ she spoke to him directly after the interview and there were no indications of drunkeness or a hangover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fMCTo-GQ2A

The Frech media knew better than to spend a week discussing it, and he was CLEARLY drunk.

C)TV3 - Boozed up Irish Abroad. Seriously, with programmes like this, what damage could any minister do going on TV or radio pissed.