Tom Watson v Alex Reid - see mod note post 119

scudzilla

Ok ok, i know it's Alex Reid but this fight is live on Bravo on Sat night, perfect start to an MMA nioght wit UFC hours later.

I thought that Watson would destroy Reid, still think he'll win, but how much will he be affected by having fought last week in Canada? He lost a 3 round decision to Jesse Taylor.

It amazes me, how much Bravo have been bigging up this fight, and it's already been cancelled once, that he was allowed to fight 2 weeks before it.

Surely that will affect him in the Reid fight, especially as it went the distance

Plastikman_eire

Taylor did no damage. I assume Tom will be a similar condition as he would be after a training session lol.

With regard to his fighting 2 weeks after the Taylor fight, who'd stop him? The uk has no governing body unfortunately so no one to enforce medical suspensions or the like (although I know there is a mjor push on at the moment to get something up and running)

scudzilla

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

Taylor did no damage. I assume Tom will be a similar condition as he would be after a training session lol.

With regard to his fighting 2 weeks after the Taylor fight, who'd stop him? The uk has no governing body unfortunately so no one to enforce medical suspensions or the like (although I know there is a mjor push on at the moment to get something up and running)

Totally understand that the uk governing body couldn't enforce anything but surely it was Madness on Bamma/Bravo's part not to tie him to a contract that prevented him from fighting say 2 months before this fight, especially how they've been advertising it

SDTimeout

scudzilla wrote: »

Totally understand that the uk governing body couldn't enforce anything but surely it was Madness on Bamma/Bravo's part not to tie him to a contract that prevented him from fighting say 2 months before this fight, especially how they've been advertising it

Not considering who they have been advertising....

* insert ufc 116 reaction *

Devastator

maybe they thought reid's only really chance is fighting a injured/fatigued Watson

TheProdigy

It is extremely careless that there was no contract signed that stopped Watson from fighting 8-10 weeks prior to this fight. If he got injured or sustained a cut the promotion would be hammered. Still it worked out well for them but still a very amateuresque thing to do by not legally binding Watson to not fight

JohnMc1

scudzilla wrote: »

Totally understand that the uk governing body couldn't enforce anything but surely it was Madness on Bamma/Bravo's part not to tie him to a contract that prevented him from fighting say 2 months before this fight, especially how they've been advertising it

Based on all the reality TVs shows he's gotten BAMMA/Bravo UK only care about Alex Reid. They want Alex to have the belt so an tired/injured Watson would be something they would be praying for.

unknown13

Like it or not. Alex Reid is the most well known fighter in the UK. The problem is, he is not the best in the UK in his division. He lost to Dean Amasinger, who was the worst fighter on the UK team in TUF 9. This fight will do good numbers but those who follow MMA well enough, know what is going to happen. That is Tom Watson is going to stop Alex Reid.

DrPhilG

And what does it say about BAMMA that the challenger for their MW belt is a 6 fight streak? (and I don't mean a winning one).

MrStuffins

DrPhilG wrote: »

And what does it say about BAMMA that the challenger for their MW belt is a 6 foot streak of p*ss? (and I don't mean a winning one).

FYP.

karl bracken

DrPhilG wrote: »

And what does it say about BAMMA that the challenger for their MW belt is a 6 fight streak? (and I don't mean a winning one).

nothing, they just want a big "tv" fight.

i think it just means they are trying to cash in on his celebrity big brother status...

but what if reid has been training like a dog and beats watson he has rarely been finished even with 6 in a row.... losses!!

im not sayin he'l win or anythin but he is tough to finish and is a decent striker

Ian Whelan

I am looking forward to watching Gunnar Nelson again. Anyone know anything about the Irish fighter Robert Devane who is on the card?

Dancor

Ian Whelan wrote: »

Anyone know anything about the Irish fighter Robert Devane who is on the card?

Head guy from martial arts club in dublin I believe.

bilbo79

Ian Whelan wrote: »

Anyone know anything about the Irish fighter Robert Devane who is on the card?

he's trained by ian freeman and just happens to be fighting a can thats 0-1, freeman must be trying to pad his record, 1st opponent was an impressive 1 win-12 losses at pro level, 2nd is 1-1 and 3rd is 2-1 counting his win over devane-thats a total of 4 wins 14 losses so in all honesty you expect another handy night here, go on the irish

scudzilla

Ian Whelan wrote: »

I am looking forward to watching Gunnar Nelson again. Anyone know anything about the Irish fighter Robert Devane who is on the card?

Not sure if the whole card is on Bravo, it appears to be only on for an hour

cowzerp

scudzilla wrote: »

Not sure if the whole card is on Bravo, it appears to be only on for an hour

I'd say the will be 1-3 fights max-prob just load of chat and ads then the "BIG FIGHT" i think it may actually be close..

Tim_Murphy

bilbo79 wrote: »

he's trained by ian freeman and just happens to be fighting a can thats 0-1, freeman must be trying to pad his record, 1st opponent was an impressive 1 win-12 losses at pro level, 2nd is 1-1 and 3rd is 2-1 counting his win over devane-thats a total of 4 wins 14 losses so in all honesty you expect another handy night here, go on the irish

:rolleyes: @ internet fans.

Somebody has only had one fight and lost so he is a 'can'? According to MMAUniverse Devane is 2-1 himself so on paper that looks relatively evenly matched experience wise.

scudzilla

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

:rolleyes: @ internet fans.

Somebody has only had one fight and lost so he is a 'can'? According to MMAUniverse Devane is 2-1 himself so on paper that looks relatively evenly matched experience wise.

At first glance i thought that said DEVORE was fighting!! :D

viper.10

Devastator wrote: »

maybe they thought reid's only really chance is fighting a injured/fatigued Watson

and to be honest i'd say it is his only chance. reid would have been better training like a beast in his own club instead of flying around from country to country learning all these new fighting techiques. all bravo care about is making a new reality show like "what alex did next" or something. if watson didn't get hurt or isn't to tired after that last fight of his i honestly cant see him losing

Kieran81

anyone see any news on the weigh ins, apparantly a certain mr katie price was a no-show....

Niall0

Fighters weigh in for BAMMA 4

Friday, 24 September 2010 18:52 Written by Hywel Teague


The fighters took to the scale ahead of BAMMA 4 today and there was plenty of drama to accompany proceedings.
Most notable was the absenteeism of Alex Reid, co-star of the main event. The London-based fighter was delayed by traffic and missed the official weigh-in. Watson has accepted the fight and the bout will still go ahead, but Reid will be penalised accordingly as stated in his contract.
Watson weighed in at 184lb, one pound under the cutoff for middleweight. The champ looked slim and trim and had no problems making weight, but had sharp words for the missing challenger. “Maybe Alex is too much of a superstar to be here. The official weigh-in was 3pm. I don’t want to say too much because maybe there’s a reason why he’s not here, but…”
Reid wasn’t the only fighter not to make the official weigh-in, although James Zikic had a very valid reason for not being there. After checking his weight on the official scale, a confused taxi driver took him to the wrong stadium! Zikic hurried back and weighed in at 184lb just within the one hour cut off.
Even after multiple attempts, his opponent John Phillips simply couldn’t make weight. The Welsh scrapper made repeated trips to the sauna and used his full hour allowance to try and get to the 185lb limit, but could go no lower than 187lb. Zikic conferred with his management but accepted the fight, meaning the middleweight co-main event will still go ahead.
BAMMA 4 takes place this weekend, September 25th 2010 at the NIA Arena in Birmingham. Tickets are available at www.ticketfactory.co.uk. For more information on the event go to www.bamma.com.
Weigh-in results
Tom Watson 184lb
Alex Reid 183lb

James Zikic 184lb
John Phillips 187lb

Gunnar Nelson 169lb
Eugene Fadiora 170lb

Marcos Santi 170.5lb
Simeon Thoresen 170lb

AJ Wenn 156lb
Tim Newman 155lb

Scott Jansen 155lb
Stuart Davies 155lb

David Round 156lb
Harvey Harra 155lb

Sam Elsdon 170.5lb
Charlie Leary 170lb

Shah Hussein 174lb
Tom Breese 171lb

Robert Devane 185lb
Colin Lewis 187.5lb


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Here's the fightcard with pictures :pac:
http://www.bamma.net/index.php/tickets/fightcard.html

Sid_Justice

Sorry i see there is an entire thread on this already

Apparently the main event (Alex Reid (Mr Jordan) and Tom Watson) will be on Bravo tonight from 10, they won't be showing much of the card, mostly some background stuff on Reid.

Gunnar Nelson (Iceland, but very familiar with Irish) is fighting and so Is Robert Devane who owns a gym in Ireland, not sure exactly who he's training with leading up to this fight.

From what I read just there on cagewarriors.com/forums most of the show will be repeated on friday week on bravo.

Good luck to them.

Sid_Justice

Apparently the main event (Alex Reid (Mr Jordan) and Tom Watson) will be on Bravo tonight from 10, they won't be showing much of the card, mostly some background stuff on Reid.

Gunnar Nelson (Iceland, but very familiar with Irish) is fighting and so Is Robert Devane who owns a gym in Ireland, not sure exactly who he's training with leading up to this fight.

From what I read just there on cagewarriors.com/forums most of the show will be repeated on friday week on bravo.

Good luck to them

Yeah so that's Ireland's devane on the card.

unknown13

Devane is an Irish fighter I have absolutely no intention on supporting.

_oveless

unknown13 wrote: »

Devane is an Irish fighter I have absolutely no intention on supporting.

Why what did he do?

arybvtcw0eolkf

unknown13 wrote: »

Devane is an Irish fighter I have absolutely no intention on supporting.

Why?.

cowzerp

People can talk about Individual fighters but please, no fighter bashing-but the club he represents took legal action on here because they where discussed and are not to be discussed for these reasons, thanks..

pablohoney87

The charter says we cant discuss the club or the coaches. But as a fighter can we discuss him?

unknown13

pablohoney87 wrote: »

The charter says we cant discuss the club or the coaches. But as a fighter can we discuss him?

Yes but only him.

cowzerp

pablohoney87 wrote: »

The charter says we cant discuss the club or the coaches. But as a fighter can we discuss him?

Yes but just not in that club's capacity, just as another fighter..

talk about fighter, not club/coaches etc..

pablohoney87

Cool. Dunno anything about his opponent tonight.
Rob I think is coached by Ian Freeman and hasnt really fought any tough tough fighters. His 1st fight he pretty much fought against a punch bag. Think hes had 2 other fights. 1 he won 1 he lost. The fighter he beat had a huge losing record and think the other fighter was 1-0.

unknown13

BAMMA are pretty much saying before the fight begins who they want to win.

Take a guess who it is?

I smell possibly a dodgy decision happening tonight.

He was training in Zahabi in the run up to the fight I think.

unknown13

Deleted User wrote: »

He was training in Zahabi in the run up to the fight I think.

Zahadi is overrated. Ken Flo proved that.

bigdogbarking

any linky's to the fight? don't have bravo

bigdogbarking

got it, cheers!

Anyone have the results so far?

weemcd

bigdogbarking wrote: »

got it, cheers!

care to share?

the drifter

alex deserves to lose for his entrance alone....

Devastator

An inflatible banana nearly knocked reid out

kc87

was jus gonna post i hope alex does well

THEN
wtf is that entrance

TheProdigy

Any stream please?

Anyone have the results so far?

EDIT: Found them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA_4

weemcd

/pm

Devastator

C'MON KONG!!


show this z list 'celeb' he's better off trying to get his mug in the scabloids

Onearmedbandit

Sorry dont have a stream im watching it on sky player. Whats the story with the gorilla entrance?

bjj-fighter

I hope Alex Reid wins. Seems like a decent guy. I never liked Tom Watson and I like the underdog.

Onearmedbandit

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone have the results so far?

EDIT: Found them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAMMA_4

Holy **** the amount of choke victories tonight is incredible

Onearmedbandit

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

Whats the story with the gorilla entrance?

Probably something to do with his Kong nickname.

Devastator

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

Sorry dont have a stream im watching it on sky player. Whats the story with the gorilla entrance?

his nickname's "kong"....maybe you've heard that in a film with the first word as "King"....it weren't about gorilla's though