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Another Trip to Intershoot
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18-09-2010 11:16am#1yesterday I made the journey to (ta-rone) to make a few purchases with Mr Intershoot.
Whilst I was there I said to myself I'd spread the word on what equipment was available there.
As a picture paints a thousand words, here is a flavour of what is available and keenly priced
And for you Remington Shotgun owners out there €25 for choke tubes
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Tackleberrywho wrote: »your dealer must have a lot of ammo in the stores.
What does that have to do with it
Tackleberrywho wrote: »Fill out form, e-mail it off receive it get ammo. Takes ~1 week to ten days total
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http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Individuals#import_eubunny shooter wrote: »What does that have to do with it
he wants to keep selling you ammo at "his" prices.
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Tackleberrywho wrote: »P
I have spent a lot of money here, I could not get the ammo "I" wanted here.
I tried, nobody would bother getting it for me.
I spend a small fortune here on firearms, scopes, gear etc.
I've given many dealers the price of their dinner.
Never once was I even offered a cup of tea in most of them.
I was shocked when I was treated as a family friend in the North.
When I have spent close on €15000 at a guesstimate on stuff relating to firearms down the years.
I Always support local enterprise. if you notice today i have advertised 3 home grown business as opposed to Sportingservices.co.uk
Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail
Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ?
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Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail
Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ?
It was most certainly not a dig.
In regards to sportingservices it was the first name that came into my head.
Just for the record AICS stocks can be bought here. I've held two in my hands in the past two weeks, I've seen the stock apart and I have completely gone off them as a result.
I also showed a link to Andy Walshs stocks which are of extremely high quality.
And Edi Graef PSE stocks, both made in Ireland!
I said correctly that many of teh top shooters in the country have Stocks made by these individuals.
i went to the North BECAUSE I could not get any ammo I wanted here Simples.
If they sold it I'd buy it.
I'd prefer not to have to travel 600 miles for a few boxes of ammo
in regards to the American stocks, RFD's can get them. I have seen several of all makes and shapes lately!0 -
Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail
Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ?
Hey vix and tackleberry i just wanna say thanks for all the help.
I think vix,that tackle only posted it to help me,something i really appreciate,and he also found me a local dealer here in Ireland,so dont have to go through the hassle of gettin it from the US.I know i can easily get it in norway,but its so much more expensive there.
When it comes to ammo,i also have the chance of reloading in Norway,and bring the ammo back here,something i am considering since its all about money at the end of the day.0 -
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pedroeibar1 wrote: »Your mate at the range did not do his homework and just like anyone going to buy a car, a fridge or a TV (why should a rifle be different?) he got bad value because he did not do his homework............
Agreed. I never buy straight away. I always shop around. He didn't and literally, paid the price.He was smart enough to be able to haggle the price down by 150, was happy to conclude the deal and now has a moan?
Also true, but when dealing with certain dealer for years you come to trust them and their word. His mistake, but it was naive on his part and pure greed on the dealers.He should grow up.
Everyone is entitled to moan. I was faced with a situation like this years ago. Was told...... " its the last one in stock and no-one else has one. It'll be months before anyone will have another one". I told the dealer i'm in no hurry to sell away and i'll look again in a few months. Got a call 2 days later and the rifle suddenly was cheaper and available in different stocks. Told the dealer to keep it and bought elsewhere. But then again i'm a stubborn f**ker, if someone tries to milk/screw me i never darken their door and advise all others to avoid them. Word of mouth can build or destroy a business.Yes, some retailers have got an attitude problem, but it is the customer that created it. During the Tiger Years the number of ‘I want it NOW’ customers was a PITA and we all know of cases – and laughed at them - where fools and money were parted all too easily. Don't get me going on that topic!
Nor me. Its the same with car dealers and most other businesses. They are acting like there is no recession, then they wonder why their companies are folding.There is no point in a dealer of anything selling at a loss or break-even;
I think you've taken me up wrong on this point. One dealer inparticular has always "minded" me. He has given the best deal possible, good value for money and ONCE, a deal where he broke even. By that he covered his minimum costs and the firearm cost me very little if anything over retail. He done this because of my previous custom. As a result i have left many thousands in his shop, so has my father, and i refer all family, friends and anyone asking me for dealer opinions to him. The same dealer bought in ammunition that i wanted for me alone. He buys it by the batch and i buy it in blocks. As it runs low he orders more. He done this off his own bat, to keep a customer happy. THAT is a dealer.
There is no doubt the lad i'm refering to has been stung nor the fact that he did not do his homework. As you know though, he knew his mistake and i was not going to kick the chap when he was down. Dealers can blame Joe public for the way we as customers demanded items previously, however the same applies in reverse. If the dealers got their attitudes from people "demanding" certain firearms regardless of the costs when times were good it means they had to adapt and change then. So why can they not do so again now that times are hard. Firearm prices and other items have not really come down, but the sport seems recession proof (to a degree). I mean lads are still buying, not in the quantities they were, but still buying all the same. Lads are still getting custom builds as is evident by the work load of John Greene and Fergal White.
If dealers can take a "hit" and encourage customers to return and possibly bring along new customers they will ride this storm well. If they are in it for a quick sale with no regard to return business they will fail and IMO they deserve it. As does any business/company not willing to "bend" a little.
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Ezri, as you know I always promote dealers who treat me well.
I paid a lot out over the years.
I've learned a lot, every days a school day though.
A cup of coffee is a very simple act for a dealer to do, after all we pay for the pot
I never will say this lad is brilliant "unless" I BELIEVE they are
Pedro,
At some point Dealers will have to cop on.
G&B would not even take a phone call off me even though I have owned 4 Remington's all out of their shop!
I have heard others have been treated differently, as they were the Big players.
if i make the effort to drive to a dealers on a cold wet night in the winter, they can make the effort to look after their customers
The Land of Cead Milé Failte, has turned into how much can we squeeze out of ya!0 -
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Caveat emptor is a quasi-legal principle which implies that if you don't beware, tough. In other words, beyond certain limited legal rights (and this dates back a long way) you're on your own. It still applies nowadays, but the line beyond which lies grief for the buyer has moved considerably in their direction.IMHO, I've always interpreted caveat emptor as "As a buyer, beware of people ripping you off or selling you crap or not righting wrongs post-sale". I wouldn't agree that the increased controls on sellers are any sort of weakening of the basic tenet of caveat emptor. They're additions to the principle, not a replacement for it. Nothing should excuse the buyer from exercising their own judgement.
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kildare.17hmr wrote: »I sell cars in a little village in kildare, id say about 40-50% of our sales are repeat business or recomendations from customers. Every single customer that comes through the door is treated in such a way that they leave happy wether or not they buy a car, when doing paperwork i always offer a coffe, if its raining i have a big umbrella in the office which i give to people ect and after sales service is very important too. Im not saying every business should do the same but a bit of courtasy, manners and valueing each customer goes a long way, especially these days
Agreed - but usually the coffee is offered asap, to get the customer to stay and to give an opportunity to talk/sell to him/her.
As for not comparing selling cars to selling guns (Mr Brian J) it is immaterial; the law is the same whether it is the sale of coffee/guns/cars/biscuits.
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Couldnt have people sitting into cars that have been valeted wit a coffee in hand;) But something ill keep in mind if you ever come through the gates:Dpedroeibar1 wrote: »Agreed - but usually the coffee is offered asap, to get the customer to stay and to give an opportunity to talk/sell to him/her.0 -
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pedroeibar1 wrote: »Agreed - but usually the coffee is offered asap, to get the customer to stay and to give an opportunity to talk/sell to him/her.
As for not comparing selling cars to selling guns (Mr Brian J) it is immaterial; the law is the same whether it is the sale of coffee/guns/cars/biscuits.
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I will have to get a securely fixed and lockable coffee jar, and the biscuits will be gone off by the time the licence comes through:D;)
Sorry I may not of been clear making my orginal point. Consumer law may be the same, but my point was that there are some differences to selling other products as most are not subject to the same controls and restrictions as firearms. There are a small number of RFDs suppling a pretty small market over a large geographical area, the RFDs business also relys on selling ammunition and other associated items over a long period of time to use with the gun you bought there.
The limited use of internet marketing also makes it difficult for people to check and compare.0 -
I somehow doubt that Spaniards say that as regularly as we dopedroeibar1 wrote: »Quite. But, as the Spaniards say, si mi tia tuviera cojones seria mi tio.;)
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The salient point is that if someone is unsatisfied with a dealer's service or prices, it's best to bring that complaint back to him and see how he deals with it. If he's genuine, he'll explain his position and apologise and perhaps offer another discount, if not well he was given a chance and failed.
He certainly can't fiix something he doesn't know about.0 -
I somehow doubt that Spaniards say that as regularly as we do
The salient point is that if someone is unsatisfied with a dealer's service or prices, it's best to bring that complaint back to him and see how he deals with it. If he's genuine, he'll explain his position and apologise and perhaps offer another discount, if not well he was given a chance and failed.
He certainly can't fiix something he doesn't know about.
If he buys a scope for a grand , and tries to sell it for 2 grand; he knows !;)
By the way Intershoot, if you are reading this, sorry for this thread going off on a tangent
The next time I go North, I must get a tour of DRPC 0 -
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I somehow doubt that Spaniards say that as regularly as we do
The salient point is that if someone is unsatisfied with a dealer's service or prices, it's best to bring that complaint back to him and see how he deals with it. If he's genuine, he'll explain his position and apologise and perhaps offer another discount, if not well he was given a chance and failed.
He certainly can't fiix something he doesn't know about.
Agreed. I more or less said the same thing a few posts back.
As for the Spanish idiom, maybe you just hang out with the polite ones and don't hear it too often?:p;)
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Who are you talking about? Nobody mentioned such a deal on this thread so far and how do you know how much this hypothetical person paid for this hypothetical scope?
You were referring to "dealers" not knowing that their competitors were cheaper so the onus was on the client to tell the dealer.
As I said, if a dealer "Any" Dealer buys something fo x€ and tries to sell it for 4X€; Then he knows
I never mentioned any person. Just facts, Everyone has paid over the odds down the years on firearms, especially before the Internet!!0 -
You need to be re-acquainted with the meaning of the word 'fact'. What you're doing is guessing.Tackleberrywho wrote: »You were referring to "dealers" not knowing that their competitors were cheaper so the onus was on the client to tell the dealer.
As I said, if a dealer "Any" Dealer buys something fo x€ and tries to sell it for 4X€; Then he knows
I never mentioned any person. Just facts, Everyone has paid over the odds down the years on firearms, especially before the Internet!!
And please stop exaggerating. First you're suggesting a 100% mark up and now you've increased that to 300%. You want to make sweeping allegations about dealers, it would help if you were realistic.
Some of the ammo price differentials you've quoted here aren't anywhere near the order of the mark ups you allege here.
And why pick on the dealers? There's a chain of supply that stretches a long way back and any or all parts of that are invisible to you. That's why the customer should come back because if the dealer's supplier is gouging him, he needs to know about it.0 -
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