A Mad Question About DNA And Genetics

Biggins

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

bonerm

Thinking of bringing back Charlie H?

orourkeda

I'm sure if the technology existed it could be done.

I've another brain teaser.

Why is there an advertisement for the scripts new cd appearing on all my Inspiral Carpets clips on youtube.

Biggins

bonerm wrote: »

Thinking of bringing back Charlie H?

LOL no.
Maybe the person that got the ball rolling that exposed him though.
That persons work is not done with the rest that followed Charlie. :pac:

alwaysadub

Biggins wrote: »

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

No it won't.

How do i know?
Cos i know everything!:D

IvySlayer

Why not? It's been done on sheep before.

Also, twins are clones.

Red Hand

Biggins wrote: »

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

Whatever was in the amber clad insect as in Jurrasic Park, is long gone. Bacteria would have digested it. Various acids and stuff as the insect decomposed would have destroyed it.

Even if you had something like a frozen mammoth that was preserved in permafrost, it would be very difficult. The dna in the cells could have broken into strips and linkingthose strips back into something meaningful would be almost impossible. Ice crystals in the cells would have kind of destroy things.

Japanese scientists tried it before. They tried to fertilse a mammoth egg and plant it in an elephant as a surrogate. (Mammoth was partially frozen in permafrost in Siberia.) No success.

Thrill

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Whatever was in the amber clad insect as in Jurrasic Park, is long gone. Bacteria would have digested it. Various acids and stuff as the insect decomposed would have destroyed it.

Even if you had something like a frozen mammoth that was preserved in permafrost, it would be very difficult. The dna in the cells could have broken into strips and linkingthose strips back into something meaningful would be almost impossible. Ice crystals in the cells would have kind of destroy things.

Japanese scientists tried it before. They tried to fertilse a mammoth egg and plant it in an elephant as a surrogate. (Mammoth was partially frozen in permafrost in Siberia.) No success.

Spoilsport!!

Biggins

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

...Japanese scientists tried it before. They tried to fertilse a mammoth egg and plant it in an elephant as a surrogate. (Mammoth was partially frozen in permafrost in Siberia.) No success.

Cheers for the good reply.
Did it fail partly due to the surrogate and not just of the technology not being there yet to allow it to happen?

100 years from now, it might be a different ball game I sometimes wonder!

Logical Fallacy

Biggins wrote: »

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

If there was the blood of Christ on such an item, and if it could be used to clone Jesus then this clone would be an abomination of life, declared by the Church the Anti-Christ and mad **** would go down. Cats and dogs would play poker together, toilets would all drain in the oppostive direction etc

Rented Mule

According to Christian mythology the zombie carpenter has already come back once.

Cookie_Monster

of course you can, you just need lots and lots of frogs

Biggins

Rented Mule wrote: »

According to Christian mythology the zombie carpenter has already come back once.

Really?

Biggins

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

of course you can, you just need lots and lots of frogs

Whats the advantage of having loads of French people?

Red Hand

Biggins wrote: »

Cheers for the good reply.
Did it fail partly due to the surrogate and not just of the technology not being there yet to allow it to happen?

100 years from now, it might be a different ball game I sometimes wonder!

This was before Dolly, either in the 80s or the early 90s, I think.

However when I gave a quick search for it, I found a more recent article and a more recent team. They seem hopeful, but I'm still not sure you could get a good DNA sample.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6284214.stm

Red Hand

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

If there was the blood of Christ on such an item, and if it could be used to clone Jesus then this clone would be an abomination of life, declared by the Church the Anti-Christ and mad **** would go down. Cats and dogs would play poker together, toilets would all drain in the oppostive direction etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WVBQfrQo38

recylingbin

Biggins wrote: »

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

We could bring back all the members of your kibbutz who could go around and build windfarms, protect dogs from fireworks, sort out the economy and hold in their farts so as to protect the environment.




sorry

Biggins

recylingbin wrote: »

We could bring back all the members of your kibbutz who could go around and build windfarms, protect dogs from fireworks, sort out the economy and hold in their farts so as to protect the environment.

On behalf of the Green Party, I thank you. :pac:

marco_polo

Biggins wrote: »

Cheers for the good reply.
Did it fail partly due to the surrogate and not just of the technology not being there yet to allow it to happen?

100 years from now, it might be a different ball game I sometimes wonder!

I think you would still need a suitable surrogate species that is a quite a close match to the species that you are trying to recreate.

Another argument I have seen raised is that for any ancient creature, other organisms that it would have symbiotically depended on for survival (very specific types of gut bacteria for example etc) would be likely long gone as well.

Sea Sharp

The thing with a drop of blood that's a couple of hundred (or thousand) years old is that it'll be all decayed and hard to decipher.
Although they did manage to map the DNA of Neanderthals so there's some hope yet. I'd give it another 20 years.

Biggins

marco_polo wrote: »

I think you would still need a suitable surrogate species that is a quite a close match to the species that you are trying to recreate.

Another argument I have seen raised is that for any ancient creature, other organisms that it would have symbiotically depended on for survival (very specific types of gut bacteria for example etc) would be likely long gone as well.

Very good points.

Lone Stone

Biggins wrote: »

Just a mad question - moving on from mention of the Spear of Destiny (see the present pope thread).

If there was blood and or DNA found on such an object, like in Jurassic Park (Yes, I know its fiction), is it or will it be possible to bring back some day in the future, a clone of someone?

Just one of those mad questions that I allow to wander into my empty brain! :pac:

Anyone know much or enough about this stuff to answer?

I read some where once that some country made a clone from the dna from Egyptian mummified king woo awww

Biggins

Lone Stone wrote: »

I read some where once that some country made a clone from the dna from Egyptian mummified king woo awww

That might help explain two films. :pac:

marco_polo

Biggins wrote: »

Very good points.

It would be much cooler if they weren't true though

fontanalis

Somewhat related.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/20/2249778.htm

storm2811

Biggins wrote: »

Really?

The resurrection Biggins!:pac:

Biggins

storm2811 wrote: »

The resurrection Biggins!:pac:

Forgot about that yarn. So easily done!
Thought I missed an episode of a remake!