Coveney . . Anti Irish Twit-ter

Drumpot

There is a movie called "Idiocracy". It is set in the future and shows a world populated by complete idiots. There is a scene that reminds me of the reaction and enjoyment some people get from politics in this country. In the movie, our hero's are being chased by the police. When the police start shooting up one of their cars, local people start cheering them on (because its entertaining). In fact, its so enjoyable, the guy whos car is being blown to pieces, starts to cheer them on aswell. Oh how I chuckled at this fictional comedy . I mean who cheers on the destruction of something thats at their expense, right ? :rolleyes:

Ok . .

So Brian Cowen did a very poor interview and anybody who saw it , can come to their own conclusions as to his "health" at the time. Im sure if somebody had brought it up in the Dail it would of been embarrasing for the Taoiseach, but no doubt it wouldnt of gotten the same media attention.

So . .

Simon Coveney decides that in the interest of the Irish people, he should not only raise this concern, but do so in the broadest manner possible. On an online medium for the whole world to enjoy.

Why would he do that ?

I was going to write loads of rhetorical questions but I will say it straight out that he did it SOLEY for self serving gratification, to net a few populist voters and did so at the expense of the credibility of the Irish People abroad.

Putting the words "Drunk" and "Taoiseasch" in the same sentence was shameful at best and only served to back up the drinking Irish Culture that we have tried so hard to shake off.

Ah, but if it hastens Cowen's departure, sure wont it be worth it ? FF are gone in the next election. No need to sabotage our countries reputation aswell.

"But sure I didnt vote for FF". Does anybody think that really makes a differance internationally ? They are our government, the Irish people voted them in. They are our ambassadors to the world!!!

I am just disgusted at Coveney and the levels that it appears some politicians will go to "convince" the populist voters, like the country in that idiocracy movie (the president of the U.S. was a moronic wrestler!).

This kind of practise is certainly prevelant in most parties (mud throwing) and its disgusting. When will people of this country grow up and realise that while it can be enjoyable to watch an unpopular politician get a rollicking, in the likes of these cases it does effect the country's credibility and can have adverse effects on foreign investment.

What is most disgusting is that a large amount of people in this country will lap it up and vote based on stupid things like this as if Coveney was some sort of hero.

I dont care who our Taoiseach is or which Party he is from. I dont enjoy watching our country be the laughing stock of the world . .

Nijmegen

RTE were getting bombarded with texts, emails and calls (they say) before Coveney tweeted. (The word 'tweeted' is becoming an amusingly dirty one in Irish politics. A platform for a politician to make plain-statements to the public at large with no editing... My word, how Greek democracy is back in fashion.)

Coveney hit the nail on the head with his tweet, and even without it the story would have got legs.

I listened and thought the idiot sounded drunk or hungover, and recalled those road safety ads you see in pub jacks, talking about how long a unit of alcohol takes to wear off, and would you be fit to drive the next morning.

At 0830 Cowen had been in bed no more than 4 hours, and I doubt he had 2 pints.

tim_holsters

Perhaps the OP was bullied by Coveney at school it's the first thing I thought of when I read that delusional rant.

So you don't like our country being the laughing stock of the world? Who does? But if we've got a clown as Taoiseach...

Drumpot

tim_holsters wrote: »

Perhaps the OP was bullied by Coveney at school it's the first thing I thought of when I read that delusional rant.

So you don't like our country being the laughing stock of the world? Who does? But if we've got a clown as Taoiseach...

Since we are thin on the ground with decent replies I will must ask, why am I delusional ?. .

Wile E. Coyote

I have to say this whole thing has been blown out of porportion and is an absolute embarassment for the country. So the Taoiseach gave a sh!t interview and may or may not have had a few drinks the night before. WHO GIVES A FLYING F*CK!!!

Coveney saw the oppertunity for a very low cheap shot and he took it. Says a lot more about the type of person he is than anything else.

Di0genes

I find this backlash against Coveney to be the most hilarious piece of FF spin in a long time.

It's not Coveney's fault the Taoiseach sounded "unwell" in an interview. It's the taoiseach's own fault. The blame lies squarely with him.

goose2005

Presumably when your father downed half a bottle of whiskey, and you yelled at him that he was a useless drunk, your mother blamed you for letting the neighbours hear...

tim_holsters

Drumpot wrote: »

Since we are thin on the ground with decent replies I will must ask, why am I delusional ?. .

As somebody else has said RTE were being bombarded with texts calls and emails before Covenay entered the fray.

This interview had legs whether Covenay became instrumental in it's aftermath or not. To think otherwise is just daft.

Brian Cowen is to blame for the entire matter. You think otherwise therefore I think you're delusional.

Just in this regard you understand. So far.

Which football team do you support, if any?

steelcityblues

There seems to be a lot of FFers, who have mysteriously forgotten how the 24 hour time system works in the past few days. Bless them!

kmick

Thankfully you cant yet get arrested for pointing out something that everyone else knows.

Wile E. Coyote

Di0genes wrote: »

I find this backlash against Coveney to be the most hilarious piece of FF spin in a long time.

I'm not a FF supporter so I don't buy into any of the 'spin'. I'm just not a fan of a 'professional' posting childish remarks about a colleague to try gain popularity.

It's like me coming to work on a Monday morning and sticking an announcement on the notice board that Joe Bloggs came into work hungover. Without my post a few people would have noticed and ignored it but once I post it everyone is talking about it.

tricky D

Yup, standard gutter spin from FF.

Nevermind the actual act, just shout blame at those who dare to speak about it, the opposition and the media are always good for the ole scapegoating. Basic deflection tactics.

8 pints was reported in some rag the other day.

PeterIanStaker

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I'm just not a fan of a 'professional' posting childish remarks about a colleague to try gain popularity.

Wait, your accusing our politicians of being "professionals?"

Wile E. Coyote

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Wait, your accusing our politicians of being "professionals?"

Thats why I wrote 'professional'

Seth Brundle

kmick wrote: »

Thankfully you cant yet get arrested for pointing out something that everyone else knows.

Give it time - Dermot Ahern still has the Justice portfolio!

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I'm not a FF supporter so I don't buy into any of the 'spin'. I'm just not a fan of a 'professional' posting childish remarks about a colleague to try gain popularity.

It's like me coming to work on a Monday morning and sticking an announcement on the notice board that Joe Bloggs came into work hungover. Without my post a few people would have noticed and ignored it but once I post it everyone is talking about it.

All he said was:

God, what an uninspiring interview by Taoiseach this morning. He sounded half way between drunk and hungover and totally disinterested...

Also take a look at the following: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0916/1224278992531.html

OhNoYouDidn't

So at what level do the media and the opposion stop highlighting government failures in the 'national interest'?

This arguement is a very slippy slope.

steelcityblues

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

So at what level do the media and the opposion stop highlighting government failures in the 'national interest'?

This arguement is a very slippy slope.

Many of the most prominent media people are FFers, or from FF backgrounds.
Enough said!

jimmycrackcorm

Di0genes wrote: »

I find this backlash against Coveney to be the most hilarious piece of FF spin in a long time.

It's not Coveney's fault the Taoiseach sounded "unwell" in an interview. It's the taoiseach's own fault. The blame lies squarely with him.

Coveney proffered an opinion on Cowen that was not based on fact. It was an unproven guess and likely slanderous. I'd prefer if Coveney would concentrate on solutions to our economic problems instead of gossip. But then that wouldn't get you media attention.

Seth Brundle

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Coveney proffered an opinion on Cowen that was not based on fact. It was an unproven guess and likely slanderous.

Which bit was not based on fact?
Which bit was an unproved guess?
Which bit was likely to be slanderous?
I quoted the tweet above if you need to reference it!
The entire thing was someone's view and not a statement of fact!

freyners

i read the title and laugh

i read your rant and laugh harder

so its now anti-irish to critise the supposed leader of our country, who, in full knowledge that he had to attend this interview that wss meant to show us that he was in control, turned up either still drunk or badly hungover to aforementioned interview.

tim_holsters

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

I'm not a FF supporter so I don't buy into any of the 'spin'. I'm just not a fan of a 'professional' posting childish remarks about a colleague to try gain popularity.

It's like me coming to work on a Monday morning and sticking an announcement on the notice board that Joe Bloggs came into work hungover. Without my post a few people would have noticed and ignored it but once I post it everyone is talking about it.

Joe Bloggs is not the Taoiseach.

hallelujajordan

What bothers me most about this whole sorry affair is that in the space of a couple of hours two of our most senior politicians had a choice to make and both of them but their own self-interest ahead of the interest of the country . . . .

Cowen had a choice to make; Go to bed early and be in a fit state for a pre-arranged interview where you have a rare chance to address the country or stay up and have the craic in the misplaced confidence that you can 'wing' it in the morning. .

Coveney also had a choice. . Invite ridicule on the Taoiseach and by extension the country in the hope that you will further destabilise the government and win more votes for yourself or put the country first, recognise that such ridicule may have a detrimental effect (to the country as opposed to FF) and bite your tongue . . .

Unfortunately both made the wrong choice . . . .

orourkeda

Drumpot wrote: »

There is a movie called "Idiocracy". It is set in the future and shows a world populated by complete idiots. There is a scene that reminds me of the reaction and enjoyment some people get from politics in this country. In the movie, our hero's are being chased by the police. When the police start shooting up one of their cars, local people start cheering them on (because its entertaining). In fact, its so enjoyable, the guy whos car is being blown to pieces, starts to cheer them on aswell. Oh how I chuckled at this fictional comedy . I mean who cheers on the destruction of something thats at their expense, right ? :rolleyes:

Ok . .

So Brian Cowen did a very poor interview and anybody who saw it , can come to their own conclusions as to his "health" at the time. Im sure if somebody had brought it up in the Dail it would of been embarrasing for the Taoiseach, but no doubt it wouldnt of gotten the same media attention.

So . .

Simon Coveney decides that in the interest of the Irish people, he should not only raise this concern, but do so in the broadest manner possible. On an online medium for the whole world to enjoy.

Why would he do that ?

I was going to write loads of rhetorical questions but I will say it straight out that he did it SOLEY for self serving gratification, to net a few populist voters and did so at the expense of the credibility of the Irish People abroad.

Putting the words "Drunk" and "Taoiseasch" in the same sentence was shameful at best and only served to back up the drinking Irish Culture that we have tried so hard to shake off.

Ah, but if it hastens Cowen's departure, sure wont it be worth it ? FF are gone in the next election. No need to sabotage our countries reputation aswell.

"But sure I didnt vote for FF". Does anybody think that really makes a differance internationally ? They are our government, the Irish people voted them in. They are our ambassadors to the world!!!

I am just disgusted at Coveney and the levels that it appears some politicians will go to "convince" the populist voters, like the country in that idiocracy movie (the president of the U.S. was a moronic wrestler!).

This kind of practise is certainly prevelant in most parties (mud throwing) and its disgusting. When will people of this country grow up and realise that while it can be enjoyable to watch an unpopular politician get a rollicking, in the likes of these cases it does effect the country's credibility and can have adverse effects on foreign investment.

What is most disgusting is that a large amount of people in this country will lap it up and vote based on stupid things like this as if Coveney was some sort of hero.

I dont care who our Taoiseach is or which Party he is from. I dont enjoy watching our country be the laughing stock of the world . .

Simon Coveney didnt pour the drink down the Taoiseach' throat.

If Simon Coveney didnt make his tweet, would we still be discussing this subject.

skinner2x

hallelujajordan wrote: »

What bothers me most about this whole sorry affair is that in the space of a couple of hours two of our most senior politicians had a choice to make and both of them but their own self-interest ahead of the interest of the country . . . .

Cowen had a choice to make; Go to bed early and be in a fit state for a pre-arranged interview where you have a rare chance to address the country or stay up and have the craic in the misplaced confidence that you can 'wing' it in the morning. .

Coveney also had a choice. . Invite ridicule on the Taoiseach and by extension the country in the hope that you will further destabilise the government and win more votes for yourself or put the country first, recognise that such ridicule may have a detrimental effect (to the country as opposed to FF) and bite your tongue . . .

Unfortunately both made the wrong choice . . . .

Well put .
I agree with the OP on most points too. This latest trick of the politicians being 'media savy' via social networking sites, twitter (twits) drives me crazy.
Do what your paid to do, not surf the web, tweeting, blogging etc.

3 frontpages of the independant dedicated to this crap yesterday. Personally I think Cowen was an ass for agreeing to do an interview the morning after their FF think (drink) in, and I think he would have gotten more respect if he'd rang in sick (congested ....)

Possibly should have gone to Ranting and raving instead...

orourkeda

hallelujajordan wrote: »

What bothers me most about this whole sorry affair is that in the space of a couple of hours two of our most senior politicians had a choice to make and both of them but their own self-interest ahead of the interest of the country . . . .

Cowen had a choice to make; Go to bed early and be in a fit state for a pre-arranged interview where you have a rare chance to address the country or stay up and have the craic in the misplaced confidence that you can 'wing' it in the morning. .

Coveney also had a choice. . Invite ridicule on the Taoiseach and by extension the country in the hope that you will further destabilise the government and win more votes for yourself or put the country first, recognise that such ridicule may have a detrimental effect (to the country as opposed to FF) and bite your tongue . . .

Unfortunately both made the wrong choice . . . .

To place any portion of blame at the Simon Coveney door for this is simply ridiculous (I'm not an FG supporter BTW)

The Taoiseach is the person who over indulged and is also the person who made a show of himself on national radio.

Any attempt to absolve the taoiseach of blame in this situation is crazy. He is a grown man and is aware of the consequences of his actions.

Di0genes

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Coveney proffered an opinion on Cowen that was not based on fact. It was an unproven guess and likely slanderous. I'd prefer if Coveney would concentrate on solutions to our economic problems instead of gossip. But then that wouldn't get you media attention.

I'd prefer our government not take a massive vacation and go on lash till 3am on Monday night, and concentrate on solutions, because y'know they're in power, and not the opposition spokesperson on the Marine.

hallelujajordan

orourkeda wrote: »

To place any portion of blame at the Simon Coveney door for this is simply ridiculous (I'm not an FG supporter BTW)

The Taoiseach is the person who over indulged and is also the person who made a show of himself on national radio.

Any attempt to absolve the taoiseach of blame in this situation is crazy. He is a grown man and is aware of the consequences of his actions.

I don't think I did . . . And to be clear. . I consider the Taoiseach 100% responsible for his demeanor yesterday morning.

Just agreed with the OP that Coveney made a decision that was more in his own interest than in that of the countries which is ironically in a round about way what he was criticising Cowen for ..

Seth Brundle

yesterday?

hallelujajordan

kbannon wrote: »

yesterday?

oops, forgive me . . just got back from a very long journey Days and nights all mixed up !

tim_holsters

hallelujajordan wrote: »

What bothers me most about this whole sorry affair is that in the space of a couple of hours two of our most senior politicians had a choice to make and both of them but their own self-interest ahead of the interest of the country . . . .

Cowen had a choice to make; Go to bed early and be in a fit state for a pre-arranged interview where you have a rare chance to address the country or stay up and have the craic in the misplaced confidence that you can 'wing' it in the morning. .

Coveney also had a choice. . Invite ridicule on the Taoiseach and by extension the country in the hope that you will further destabilise the government and win more votes for yourself or put the country first, recognise that such ridicule may have a detrimental effect (to the country as opposed to FF) and bite your tongue . . .

Unfortunately both made the wrong choice . . . .

Well that's parliamentary democracy for ya, perhaps you can recommend a fairer let's say more totalitarian system.

hallelujajordan

tim_holsters wrote: »

Well that's parliamentary democracy for ya, perhaps you can recommend a fairer let's say more totalitarian system.

I'm not sure how much TWITTER has to do with parliamentary democracy. I don't like the way Dan Boyle uses it and I'm not too keen on Coveney's tweeting habit either . .

tim_holsters

skinner2x wrote: »

Well put .
I agree with the OP on most points too. This latest trick of the politicians being 'media savy' via social networking sites, twitter (twits) drives me crazy.
Do what your paid to do, not surf the web, tweeting, blogging etc.

3 frontpages of the independant dedicated to this crap yesterday. Personally I think Cowen was an ass for agreeing to do an interview the morning after their FF think (drink) in, and I think he would have gotten more respect if he'd rang in sick (congested ....)

Possibly should have gone to Ranting and raving instead...

So using twitter, which is simply a means of communication is a trick!:rolleyes:

jimmycrackcorm

kbannon wrote: »

Which bit was not based on fact?
Which bit was an unproved guess?
Which bit was likely to be slanderous?
I quoted the tweet above if you need to reference it!
The entire thing was someone's view and not a statement of fact!

If that's the case then why is there so much media attention?

Is there any difference between this:

God, what an uninspiring interview by Taoiseach this morning. He sounded half way between drunk and hungover and totally disinterested...

and this

God, what an uninspiring interview by Taoiseach this morning. half way between drunk and hungover and totally disinterested...

The Media obviously doesn't know - Ursula Halligan put it to the Taoiseach that “radio and the internet were alive with the belief” that he had been drunk or hung-over.

In America in particular we Irish are stereotyped as being drunks and this stuff, regardless of how it is worded, has just reinforced the view.

tim_holsters

hallelujajordan wrote: »

I'm not sure how much TWITTER has to do with parliamentary democracy. I don't like the way Dan Boyle uses it and I'm not too keen on Coveney's tweeting habit either . .

They use it to communicate it's as simple as that, and as for criticising the government that's the oppositions job and I wouldn't expect anything less from them.

Coillte_Bhoy

hallelujajordan wrote: »

I'm not sure how much TWITTER has to do with parliamentary democracy. I don't like the way Dan Boyle uses it and I'm not too keen on Coveney's tweeting habit either . .

What an odd thing to say.
You might as well ask how much radio or newspapers got to do with parliamentary democracy.

So what exactly bothers you about Boyle and Gormleys tweeting???

OhNoYouDidn't

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

In America in particular we Irish are stereotyped as being drunks and this stuff, regardless of how it is worded, has just reinforced the view.

No, Cowen reinforced the sterotype for making a show of himself. If Coveny didn't tweet, it still would have been news.

There is one person responsible for this debacle and its Biffo. Not the media. Not the opposition.

skinner2x

tim_holsters wrote: »

So using twitter, which is simply a means of communication is a trick!:rolleyes:

Its a cowards method of communicating, there's no face to face dialogue. the opportunity to defend oneself doesn't come until after the damage is done.
Anyway, don't want to take thread off topic, its not about twitter as a communication tool . (hence why I said I may head to R&R..)
But I do think it's childish..

skinner2x

skinner2x wrote: »

Its a cowards method of communicating, there's no face to face dialogue. the opportunity to defend oneself doesn't come until after the damage is done.
Anyway, don't want to take thread off topic, its not about twitter as a communication tool . (hence why I said I may head to R&R..)

So no-one can disagree with you?

skinner2x wrote: »

But I do think it's childish..

Quite

jmayo

Drumpot,
not alone do we now know you watch sh**e films, we also know you watch radio interviews.

You then attack someone who speaks the truth and blame him for the worldwide dissimination of the truth.
You appear to miss the point that there were journalists present and not just the bought off ff/indo type of hacks that were attending the drinking seesion the night before but guess what there were ones there formthe likes of reuters.

You claim that Coveney has damaged our reputation, but you fail to mention the damage that cowen and his band of gimps have brought on us.

steelcityblues wrote: »

Many of the most prominent media people are FFers, or from FF backgrounds.
Enough said!

Shure I was fully expecting tubofsh** on 2FM yesterday to laud it as one of best interviews he has ever heard, right up their with that of his hero JFK.

Then we have our resident bertie fan arriving blaming twitter and the way it was used by Coveney and guess who Dan Boyle.
Funny how both times it has shown ff up and resulted in them getting the deserved kicking.
Anything that highlights their shi*e is good in my book.

Perhaps he would like to instigate some Chinese style censorship as they have managed with the state broadcaster.

skinner2x

Papa Smut wrote: »

So no-one can disagree with you?

excellent retort, alas no, because I was off topic (and angry)

Sir Oxman

Drumpot wrote: »

<snip>

I dont care who our Taoiseach is or which Party he is from. I dont enjoy watching our country be the laughing stock of the world . .

You'd prefer people to shut the hell up and behaviour like his be swept under the carpet? - better out, than in is a good maxim to go by.
I take responsibility for my actions, why can't Cowen?

The thread title is pathetic.

hallelujajordan

jmayo wrote: »

Then we have our resident bertie fan arriving blaming twitter and the way it was used by Coveney and guess who Dan Boyle.
Funny how both times it has shown ff up and resulted in them getting the deserved kicking.
Anything that highlights their shi*e is good in my book.

Perhaps he would like to instigate some Chinese style censorship as they have managed with the state broadcaster.

If you are going to refer to my comments at least do it accurately . .

hallelujajordan wrote:

. . . And to be clear. . I consider the Taoiseach 100% responsible for his demeanor

Callan57

skinner2x wrote: »

Its a cowards method of communicating, there's no face to face dialogue. the opportunity to defend oneself doesn't come until after the damage is done.
Anyway, don't want to take thread off topic, its not about twitter as a communication tool . (hence why I said I may head to R&R..)
But I do think it's childish..

A good deal less cowardly that the sly & sneaky modus operandi employed by Willie O'Dea

contrail

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Coveney proffered an opinion on Cowen that was not based on fact. It was an unproven guess and likely slanderous. I'd prefer if Coveney would concentrate on solutions to our economic problems instead of gossip. But then that wouldn't get you media attention.

With no party affiliation or preference...

I couldn't care less if Cowen was hung-over. I wouldn't begrudge anyone having a few pints and a sing-song. It's Coveney's behaviour that raises red flags for me, first he was part of the group who tried to usurp Enda Kenny, before sheepishly re-affirming his allegiance; then he slanders this nation's Taoiseach with a Tweet, a flipping one-sided, underhanded, sneaky Tweet. Why didn't he ring a radio programme himself if he had something important to impart to the populous regarding our Taoiseach? Coveney is on the national payroll as well remember, he should conduct himself in a more forthright manner.

Cowen was indeed guilty of disrespecting the office of Taoiseach through neglect, but like it or not, Coveney did it deliberately.

And where exactly does Coveney's sense of entitlement come from? Party? Pedigree? Or his electorate? If the latter, he should at least try to represent them with a modicum of calibre.

Next time Simon, ask yourself, 'What would Garrett do?', and not, 'What would a 12 year old do?'

tim_holsters

contrail wrote: »

With no party affiliation or preference...

I couldn't care less if Cowen was hung-over. I wouldn't begrudge anyone having a few pints and a sing-song. It's Coveney's behaviour that raises red flags for me, first he was part of the group who tried to usurp Enda Kenny, before sheepishly re-affirming his allegiance; then he slanders this nation's Taoiseach with a Tweet, a flipping one-sided, underhanded, sneaky Tweet. Why didn't he ring a radio programme himself if he had something important to impart to the populous regarding our Taoiseach? Coveney is on the national payroll as well remember, he should conduct himself in a more forthright manner.

Cowen was indeed guilty of disrespecting the office of Taoiseach through neglect, but like it or not, Coveney did it deliberately.

And where exactly does Coveney's sense of entitlement come from? Party? Pedigree? Or his electorate? If the latter, he should at least try to represent them with a modicum of calibre.

Next time Simon, ask yourself, 'What would Garrett do?', and not, 'What would a 12 year old do?'

Cowen is the Taoiseach Coveney isn't. I think any sane person knows who was being disrespectful to the office of Taoiseach and who wasn't.

Covenay makes a couple of prosaic remarks "statin the bleedin obvious" via twitter and you have him down as some sort of fifth columnist. :rolleyes:

zootroid

contrail wrote: »

With no party affiliation or preference...

I couldn't care less if Cowen was hung-over. I wouldn't begrudge anyone having a few pints and a sing-song. It's Coveney's behaviour that raises red flags for me, first he was part of the group who tried to usurp Enda Kenny, before sheepishly re-affirming his allegiance; then he slanders this nation's Taoiseach with a Tweet, a flipping one-sided, underhanded, sneaky Tweet. Why didn't he ring a radio programme himself if he had something important to impart to the populous regarding our Taoiseach? Coveney is on the national payroll as well remember, he should conduct himself in a more forthright manner.

Cowen was indeed guilty of disrespecting the office of Taoiseach through neglect, but like it or not, Coveney did it deliberately.

And where exactly does Coveney's sense of entitlement come from? Party? Pedigree? Or his electorate? If the latter, he should at least try to represent them with a modicum of calibre.

Next time Simon, ask yourself, 'What would Garrett do?', and not, 'What would a 12 year old do?'

Do you think that excuse would wash if you were out drinking til half 3 in the morning and turned up for work the next day a little worse for wear? Cowen may not have been in the Dail, but he was giving an interview the next morning as the Taoiseach of the country. He showed very poor judgement, and a lot of people are angry about it (judging by the number of calls to radio shows etc)

As for Coveney, he offered his opinion on Cowen's interview, through a new media tool. I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact I see no difference between that, someone having their own blog, or someone preaching on O'Connell street to anyone who will listen.

gandalf

What people are forgetting is that Reuters and the Financial Times had already decided to run with the story before Coveneys Tweet.

The only person you should be angry with is Brian Cowen for conducting an interview when he clearly wasn't in a condition to be able to answer questions to the best of his ability at a time when not only are the electorate of this country looking for some leadership but when markets want to be comforted that our economy is in safe hands.

contrail

tim_holsters wrote: »

Covenay makes a couple of prosaic remarks "statin the bleedin obvious" via twitter and you have him down as some sort of fifth columnist.

Fifth columnist? Maybe when he grows up, right now I consider him to be more rang a cúig...

tim_holsters

skinner2x wrote: »

Its a cowards method of communicating, there's no face to face dialogue. the opportunity to defend oneself doesn't come until after the damage is done.
Anyway, don't want to take thread off topic, its not about twitter as a communication tool . (hence why I said I may head to R&R..)
But I do think it's childish..

That's just idiotic.

acer1000

hallelujajordan wrote: »

Just agreed with the OP that Coveney made a decision that was more in his own interest than in that of the countries which is ironically in a round about way what he was criticising Cowen for ..

Great point, but I doubt if Duncey Coveney powers of logic could see that at the time. Now all the FG'ers can do is claim that Reuters,etc, were running with the story in spite of Coveney. Pathetic.

There seems to be calls for Coveney to grow a pair, might it be better if he grew a brain.:o

What about all the money going into banks and so much time and attention to this issue, an issue that was started by the opposition? So sad.

BTW, This is from somebody who believes that Ahern/Cowen have ruined this country.

gandalf

LOL for the record I am not a FG'er :rolleyes:

Maybe it would be better for Brian Cowen to have a clue and not get himself into such pathetic situations in the first place.