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3 Helicopters Hoovering ?

  • 15-09-2010 02:07PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,152 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi Guys

    Just seen what looks like x2 AW139 and the Garda Squirrel hovering over the N4 RedCow for approx 5 minutes. They then proceeded southbound on the M50, unfortunately I was driving at the time so no idea where they went.

    Anyone any idea's? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭dogmatix


    Big cash shipment to/from the central bank in Sandyford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,152 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    dogmatix wrote: »
    Big cash shipment to/from the central bank in Sandyford?

    Possibly, but 3 choppers.... Must be making a payment to anglo :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    listermint wrote: »
    ... Just seen what looks like x2 AW139 and the Garda Squirrel hoovering over the N4 RedCow for approx 5 minutes. ...
    Anyone any idea's?
    helping to clean up the litter problem? :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭jimbis


    dogmatix wrote: »
    Big cash shipment to/from the central bank in Sandyford?

    Spot on! Live beside the bank and watched them going in earlier.

    Its a fairly regular thing aswell, the last delivery was last tuesday!
    Pity i dont have a decent camera because i could get some good shots!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭xflyer


    Back in 2002, I think. Up for my morning shift at 7am. Heard a Dauphin in the air. At the time the Air Corps never got up so early, so was puzzled. Arrived at M50 to see obvious plain clothes thus armed Garda on the bridge at Ballymount and a curiously empty M50 and a Garda roadblock on the sliproad. Suddenly there was this whoosh as a huge convoy of articulated trucks, army and Garda vehicles rushed past rather impressively.

    Couldn't figure it out at first. But I would guess it was the delivery of the first Euro notes from somewhere in Europe. I imagine it's the same thing you saw, only on a smaller scale. New Euro notes being delivered.

    It's quite a sight and looks like something out of a movie. If I was a potential robber I wouldn't want to take them on!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    listermint wrote: »

    Just seen what looks like x2 AW139 and the Garda Squirrel hovering over the N4 RedCow for approx 5 minutes.

    You mean one of the Garda EC135's, The Squirrel has long since been WFU and sold I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    xflyer wrote: »
    Up for my morning shift at 7am. Heard a Dauphin in the air. At the time the Air Corps never got up so early, so was puzzled.

    Are you sure about that as the Aircorps did even do late night flying in the CM170's and the SAR birds were 24/7 as were/are the CASA's, Perhaps you only ever seen the IAC up when doing Cadet Flying/Training which usually starts around 9am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    xflyer wrote: »
    Back in 2002, I think. Up for my morning shift at 7am. Heard a Dauphin in the air. At the time the Air Corps never got up so early, so was puzzled. Arrived at M50 to see obvious plain clothes thus armed Garda on the bridge at Ballymount and a curiously empty M50 and a Garda roadblock on the sliproad. Suddenly there was this whoosh as a huge convoy of articulated trucks, army and Garda vehicles rushed past rather impressively.

    Couldn't figure it out at first. But I would guess it was the delivery of the first Euro notes from somewhere in Europe. I imagine it's the same thing you saw, only on a smaller scale. New Euro notes being delivered.

    It's quite a sight and looks like something out of a movie. If I was a potential robber I wouldn't want to take them on!

    Nah the robbing was/is done by the ones in the banks.

    Surprised they had two AW139s out for it ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭kirving


    I very often used to see a convoy of - Garda Car, Army Jeep, 2x Securicor Truck, Army Jeep on my way to school on Friday mornings. I realise that there's only a limited number of routes to transport cash between two locations, and noone in their right mind would even think of taking on the Army/Armed Gardai, BUT if someone on their way to school notices a pattern being formed, surely someone trying to ambush it would pick up on it too.

    I saw a prisoner transport(must have been v. high profile) convoy on the N4 a while back, but the amount of planning gone into it must have been insane! Gardai closing off junctions, half a dozen Garda bikes(must have been doing about 120mph to get in front of the convoy after stopping traffic), Army Jeeps, Garda Helicopter, etc. Very impressive to see it all work so seamlessly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dacian


    mathepac wrote: »
    helping to clean up the litter problem? :cool:
    Can't believe it took over 30 mins for someone to respond to this typo.

    I grew up along the border,lived next door to a bank. As a kid we just got used to the presence of soldiers in our doorway (2 foot recessed,1800s building so solid rock) every now and then. Wheres my wife who is form Dublin is quite uncomfprtable when we go to Europe and we are in the presence of armed troops/police.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Saw them myself !

    dsc4892.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,678 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    There were 3 black heli's flying in formation over Cork last week too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Highlander


    Saw them myself over Santry about 1.15 this afternoon, hovered for about 10 minutes and headed off. They did the same one day last week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭whitesands


    It was 3 articulated trucks full of something, seen it myself today when they came off the M50 at dundrum & the garda & army had it blocked.

    If it's money, who the ****s it for? Are the banks getting more bonuses for screwing the country???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    jmayo wrote: »

    Surprised they had two AW139s out for it ?

    One of the AW139's secondary roles is support for Garda Operations. They "may" or "may not" have been armed too as the AW139's can have 7.62MM GPMG's fitted on both sides ( 1 each side ) firing from the forward sliding windows directly behind the cockpit doors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    whitesands wrote: »
    It was 3 articulated trucks full of something, seen it myself today when they came off the M50 at dundrum & the garda & army had it blocked.

    If it's money, who the ****s it for? Are the banks getting more bonuses for screwing the country???

    That sounds like an Ammunition Transport were they heading in the Direction of the Curragh/Glen Of Imaal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    There were 3 black heli's flying in formation over Cork last week too.

    They were AW139's too, There was a big Combined Exercise down off the Oil Rigs and Coast Area,

    Lots of Soldiers/Possibly ARW or Navy seen fast roping down from the AW139's onto Fort Mitchell and the AW139's landing at Haulbowline.

    Here is the Official NOTAM:

    A1226/10 - 1ST-3RD 6TH-9TH 0800-2000
    MILITARY EXERCISE WILL TAKE PLACE
    MULTIPLE MILITARY HELICOPTERS OPERATING BETWEEN CORK CITY, CORK
    HARBOUR AND KINSALE ALPHA GAS RIG. SFC - 2000FT AMSL, 01 SEP 08:00 2010 UNTIL
    09 SEP 20:00 2010. CREATED: 27 AUG 09:31 2010


    The IAC's AW139's and EC135's will look black from a distance as they are both painted in the same MATT GREEN RAL6031 finish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭balkanhawk


    I'm sure there is gold bullion in the lorries too. If the AW139's were there you can be sure that there were a load of soldiers in the back with the abseiling ropes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Spotted them when I was in Marlay Park around 2pm, seemed to be hovering over the tallaght m50 exit then moving to the sandyford exit and back again.

    Made me immediately think they were watching the road. Definitely 2 army and one Gardaí.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Dacian wrote: »
    Can't believe it took over 30 mins for someone to respons to this typo.

    I could.

    But I won't:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    calex71 wrote: »
    Made me immediately think they were watching the road. Definitely 2 army and one Gardaí.

    Army dont Operate any Fixed Wing Assets, they are Air Corps AW139's the Army Utilise Orbiter UAV's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    Steyr wrote: »
    Army dont Operate any Fixed Wing Assets, they are Air Corps AW139's the Army Utilise Orbiter UAV's.

    Realised I got that wrong, and knew some one would call me one it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭westdub


    balkanhawk wrote: »
    I'm sure there is gold bullion in the lorries too. If the AW139's were there you can be sure that there were a load of soldiers in the back with the abseiling ropes.

    Believe it or not the lorries are ''usually'' not even carrying Money,
    Most of the time they are carrying the paper that the money is printed on,
    and before anyone says that there is no way there would be that much security for just paper... imagine what the counterfeiters would do if they got their hands on the genuine watermarked paper....
    The shops have a hard enough time spotting counterfeit notes as it is...:rolleyes:

    They do sometimes carry gold as well, but not bullion just the sheets of gold leaf that they use in some currencies, most people don't know it but the Mint at sandyford produces money for other countries as well as here, and not all the money used here is printed there either, some of the notes are made abroad and imported... but not in artics....;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    whitesands wrote: »
    It was 3 articulated trucks full of something, seen it myself today when they came off the M50 at dundrum & the garda & army had it blocked.

    If it's money, who the ****s it for? Are the banks getting more bonuses for screwing the country???

    i did hear that fingelton was expecting part payment of his pension ;)
    Steyr wrote: »
    One of the AW139's secondary roles is support for Garda Operations. They "may" or "may not" have been armed too as the AW139's can have 7.62MM GPMG's fitted on both sides ( 1 each side ) firing from the forward sliding windows directly behind the cockpit doors.

    I thought the AW139s secondary role was flying ministers about.

    Seen as you are follower of all things military, what was the result of the enquiry into the door falling off the AW139 down in Killarney ?
    Did Aer Corps ever release findings or did IAA do an investigation ?

    Weren't those AW139s just civilan dolled up as military and thus just had the 7.62s added as door mounts ?

    PS I always thought they just used the EC135s for Garda backup ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    i doubt the aw139's were armed with door guns its dublin city i hardly imagine an aw139 swooping down and the door gunner blasting away with his gympy. more realistically those helicopters have a small security force in the rear and their primary role is aerial observation of the convoy. they will be then ordered to disgorge their cargo at a location when necessary by the officer in charge. i doubt the convoy was transporting ammo either maybe it was explosives as they are the only convoys i have seen with larger than normal security and a need to have pre stationed gardai at a junction normally they just have outriders go ahead to do that. this is of course just my take on it i don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭balkanhawk


    I thought the AW139s secondary role was flying ministers about.

    Seen as you are follower of all things military, what was the result of the enquiry into the door falling off the AW139 down in Killarney ?
    Did Aer Corps ever release findings or did IAA do an investigation ?

    Weren't those AW139s just civilan dolled up as military and thus just had the 7.62s added as door mounts ?

    PS I always thought they just used the EC135s for Garda backup ?


    They have a number of roles including ministerial transport, their primary role in DF support. Have a look at military.ie for other roles.

    Any helicopter that has machine guns is military enough for me!! sure dont they have fly around with night-vision googles. Agreed that they dont have all of the other balistic protection and missile warning gear but this is Ireland not the stan.

    Dont know what happened with the door thing, not really a big deal though. Just bad PR.

    If the 139's were used you can be sure there were a load of troops ready to swoop in if something went down.



    PS - Its Air Corps

    Anyone see the new official feeds, mate in the the don passed on the links to me.

    http://twitter.com/IrishAirCorps

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irish-Air-Corps/148942718466693


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    jmayo wrote: »

    I thought the AW139s secondary role was flying ministers about.


    They have numerous Secondary roles such as Support for Garda Operations, Air Ambulance, Overland SAR, Disaster Relief and VIP Transport.
    jmayo wrote: »
    Seen as you are follower of all things military, what was the result of the enquiry into the door falling off the AW139 down in Killarney ?
    Did Aer Corps ever release findings or did IAA do an investigation ?

    Havent heard anything about that.


    jmayo wrote: »
    Weren't those AW139s just civilan dolled up as military and thus just had the 7.62s added as door mounts ?

    PS I always thought they just used the EC135s for Garda backup ?

    From what i know the EC135's are used for Pilot/Instructor and Instrument Training and Air Ambulance and Army Support they are also or were talking about using them for ISTAR.

    The AW139's are Civillian as they are Utility Helicopters and wont be used Overseas but their roles are very much Military.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    balkanhawk wrote: »
    They have a number of roles including ministerial transport, their primary role in DF support. Have a look at military.ie for other roles.
    Steyr wrote: »
    They have numerous Secondary roles such as Support for Garda Operations, Air Ambulance, Overland SAR, Disaster Relief and VIP Transport.

    Ah lads just because I forgot the :rolleyes: doesn't mean I wasn't been a tad sarcastic :D
    You must start switching on the sarcasm radar.
    AFAIK one minister dempsey often has hopped a ride aboard a AW139 out to Meath.
    I heard they had problem fitting in harney due to weight and balance restrictions. :D
    balkanhawk wrote: »
    Any helicopter that has machine guns is military enough for me!! sure dont they have fly around with night-vision googles. Agreed that they dont have all of the other balistic protection and missile warning gear but this is Ireland not the stan.

    The stan :rolleyes:
    I knew a guy who wanted to use night vision gear doing night hours in a cessna.
    He claimed it gave him the comfort factor.
    Of course his day job was leading a flight of Lynxs.
    balkanhawk wrote: »
    Dont know what happened with the door thing, not really a big deal though. Just bad PR.

    I think it is a big deal since bad press gives the anti this and that folks more ammunition.
    Steyr wrote: »
    From what i know the EC135's are used for Pilot/Instructor and Instrument Training and Air Ambulance and Army Support they are also or were talking about using them for ISTAR.

    The AW139's are Civillian as they are Utility Helicopters and wont be used Overseas but their roles are very much Military.

    Oh I know they are used as military here, but they have been adapted.
    From recollection they are used quiet a lot by SARs, coast guards and border guards etc around the world.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    jmayo wrote: »

    From recollection they are used quiet a lot by SARs, coast guards and border guards etc around the world.

    True but they are not the best for SAR as has been proved.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    listermint wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Just seen what looks like x2 AW139 and the Garda Squirrel hovering over the N4 RedCow for approx 5 minutes. They then proceeded southbound on the M50, unfortunately I was driving at the time so no idea where they went.

    Anyone any idea's? :confused:


    Yep.

    They are the new Dyson s21s and the Garda Miele..


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