If satan is evil....

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 11:45am #1

If Satan is evil and he wants you to do evil why does he punish you for eternity for being evil?

/discuss

Fanny Cradock · 15-09-2010 11:52am

Because he is evil.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 11:58am

yes but he wants you to be evil and if you are evil then why would he punish surely he would reward you , anyway Lucifer only killed 10 people in the bible god directly killed many

PDN · 15-09-2010 12:29pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

yes but he wants you to be evil and if you are evil then why would he punish surely he would reward you , anyway Lucifer only killed 10 people in the bible god directly killed many

So where are you getting the idea that Satan will punish anyone? The Bible says Satan will spend eternity being punished.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 12:43pm

PDN wrote: »

So where are you getting the idea that Satan will punish anyone? The Bible says Satan will spend eternity being punished.

Ezekiel 18:4. we can see that the lost experience “everlasting punishment"

Jude 1:7 “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

i can find some more if you want

PDN · 15-09-2010 12:45pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

Ezekiel 18:4. we can see that the lost experience “everlasting punishment"

Jude 1:7 “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

i can find some more if you want

And where does it say Satan is doing the punishing?

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 1:08pm

PDN wrote: »

And where does it say Satan is doing the punishing?

OK lets say Satan is a prisoner of hell like evil humans and sinners what about the six hell gods

AGALIAREPT
ASMODEUS /ASMODAY aka SYDONAY
FLERUTY
LUCIFUGE ROFOCALE
SARGATANAS
SATANACHIA

and the princes of hell

ABADDON
ABIGOR
ADRAMELECH
ALASTOR
ANUBIS
BEHEMOTH
BELIAL
BELPHAGOR
CHARON aka CHIRON
CIMERIES aka CIMEJES
DAGON
HORUS
LEVIATHAN

I could go on, you will probably say where is the basis for this in the bible but these are in the In the Satanic Bible of 1969 and various other satanic scripture and literature which is newer than the bible but still valid , you could say there is no evidence this is true but what's the evidence anything in the bible is true this source is just as valid as the bible

Zombrex · 15-09-2010 1:22pm

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Because he is evil.

That was easy :P

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 1:23pm

Wicknight wrote: »

That was easy :P

read my next post satan isnt evil god is , he didnt win yet

Zombrex · 15-09-2010 1:25pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

read my next post satan isnt evil god is , he didnt win yet

The premise of your question is misrepresenting standard Christian doctrine. Satan doesn't punish you, God does. God punishes you because you sin.

I'm not a Christian by the way.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 1:30pm

Wicknight wrote: »

The premise of your question is misrepresenting standard Christian doctrine. Satan doesn't punish you, God does. God punishes you because you sin.

I'm not a Christian by the way.

hmm well there are some contradictions in the bible about that, but anyway let me change my argument to satan kills 10 people god kill allot check my post above for a link , Satan is a lesser evil in my opinion (even though he doesn't exist)

SonOfAdam · 15-09-2010 1:46pm

dougla2 wrote:

read my next post satan isnt evil god is , he didnt win yet

You won't get far with that view here - this is the CHRISTIANITY forum

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 1:48pm

im debating i don't care if its popular its the truth god killed many many more than Satan/Lucifer in the bible , i don't believe in any god , evil or otherwise

SonOfAdam · 15-09-2010 1:51pm

dougla2 wrote:

im debating trolling i don't care if its popular its the truth god killed many many more than Satan/Lucifer in the bible , i don't believe in any god , evil or otherwise

Fixed that for you

(sorry , couldn't resist)

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 1:53pm

SonOfAdam wrote: »

Fixed that for you

im not trolling im following the forum charter

Seaneh · 15-09-2010 1:58pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

OK lets say Satan is a prisoner of hell like evil humans and sinners what about the six hell gods

AGALIAREPT
ASMODEUS /ASMODAY aka SYDONAY
FLERUTY
LUCIFUGE ROFOCALE
SARGATANAS
SATANACHIA

and the princes of hell

ABADDON
ABIGOR
ADRAMELECH
ALASTOR
ANUBIS
BEHEMOTH
BELIAL
BELPHAGOR
CHARON aka CHIRON
CIMERIES aka CIMEJES
DAGON
HORUS
LEVIATHAN

I could go on, you will probably say where is the basis for this in the bible but these are in the In the Satanic Bible of 1969 and various other satanic scripture and literature which is newer than the bible but still valid , you could say there is no evidence this is true but what's the evidence anything in the bible is true this source is just as valid as the bible

Are you really quoting the "satanic bible" and expecting Christian's in a Christianity forum to take you seriously?

If it's not biblically accurate it has no basis in a Christian context.

I could write a book in the morning saying that God is a twig named peter and he wants us all to stroke twigs 5 times a day.

Just because it's in a book doesn't mean Christians have to agree with it. Unless it is also in the bible.

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 2:01pm

but its got the same amount of evidence as the bible and its the "holy" book of Satanists so it does have Christian context

Seaneh · 15-09-2010 2:04pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

but its got the same amount of evidence as the bible and its the "holy" book of Satanists so it does have Christian context

It has NO christian context, also, it has no evidence of anything.

The Bible has been the basis of 3 world religions for thousands of years and has texts that are thousands of years old to validate (if not it's truth) that it is accurate to the original.

The "Satanic bible" is just a book some weirdo wrote in the 60's.

Next you'll be quoting Dianetics and saying that because Scientologists regard it as a "holy" book we have to too?

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 2:06pm

Seaneh wrote: »

It has NO christian context, also, it has no evidence of anything.

The Bible has been the basis of 3 world religions for thousands of years and has texts that are thousands of years old to validate (if not it's truth) that it is accurate to the original.

The "Satanic bible" is just a book some weirdo wrote in the 60's.

Next you'll be quoting Dianetics and saying that because Scientologists regard it as a "holy" book we have to too?

Satanism is the opposite of Christianity they are both based on the same belief .
bible has been basis for 3 religions doesn't mean its right or valid, it still has no evidence whatsoever

Ash.J.Williams · 15-09-2010 2:07pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Are you really quoting the "satanic bible" and expecting Christian's in a Christianity forum to take you seriously?

If it's not biblically it has no basis in a Christian context.

I could write a book in the morning saying that God is a twig named peter and he wants us all to stroke twigs 5 times a day.

Just because it's in a book doesn't mean Christians have to agree with it. Unless it is also in the bible.

We'l have no twig stroking in this forum!

Seaneh · 15-09-2010 2:08pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

Satanism is the opposite of Christianity they are both based on the same belief .
bible has been basis for 3 religions doesn't mean its right or valid, it still has no evidence whatsoever

Go troll somewhere else.
Seriously.
You're boring.

Morbert · 15-09-2010 2:09pm

On behalf of atheists everywhere: You are making us look bad.

You asked a question. Your assumptions were corrected.

/thread

Dougla2 · 15-09-2010 2:10pm

Seaneh wrote: »

Go troll somewhere else.
Seriously.
You're boring.

charter-This rule encompasses all intolerance towards creeds, beliefs, lifestyles or opinions that differ from one's own.

Do not post anything intended to inflame or insult.

calling me boring and a troll just because my argument is valid is dumb

Morbert wrote: »

On behalf of atheists everywhere: You are making us look bad.

You asked a question. Your assumptions were corrected.

/thread

fine i give up

marty1985 · 15-09-2010 2:15pm

And that's the end of that chapter.

*throws scarf around shoulder*

Seaneh · 15-09-2010 2:16pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

charter-This rule encompasses all intolerance towards creeds, beliefs, lifestyles or opinions that differ from one's own.

Do not post anything intended to inflame or insult.

calling me boring and a troll just because my argument is valid is dumb

fine but i made no assumptions

Your "arugement" (read; attempt to troll) is not valid. It is dumb. It is also BORING.

Coming into a Christian forum and saying we have to accept something because it is written in the "holy" book of another "religion" is dumb. As Christians we only have to believe/accept 66 books, ever. We don't have to accept the Koran, The Vedas, The Gurū Granth Sāhib or any other books considered "holy" by any other religion.

The only thing we believe is the word of God, the 66 books that make up The Bible. Nothing else is applicable to Christianity.

PDN · 15-09-2010 2:20pm

Dougla2 is on a week's holiday.

If satan is evil....

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