Creatine - Advice

Banks

Ive done a lot of research about creatine recently as i'm going to start supplementing with it, Can anyone suggest a brand that they found good, or is each brand similar??

Inspector Coptoor

Creatine monohydrate is creatine monohydrate.

I'm using the CNP brand myself at the moment and find it as good as any other brand of mono Ive used before.

http://www.discount-supplements.co.uk/sports-supplements-creatine-cnp-professional-pro-creatine-500g.

Dont bother with the creatine ethyl ester, apart from tasting absolutely vile, I found no difference.

Increase your water consumption when you start taking creatine as it draws more water into your muscles so you need to drink some more water.

I dont bother with the "loading phase". I just have 2 x 5g servings with my whey protein, one in the morning and one after training.

It's a good supplement and it works.
It's not a miracle worker but It might give you an extra rep or two or 2.5-5kg on a max lift after a couple of weeks.

Banks

Cheers for the advice, How come you don't load up?? Everything ive read (Scientic journal articles) have said that the loading phase is the most important phase. Do you cycle your usage, ie 6 months on 2 months off or take it year round??

Barry.Oglesby

Banks wrote:

Everything ive read (Scientic journal articles) have said that the loading phase is the most important phase.

Was that the Maximuscle Institute of Sports Science Journal?

Inspector Coptoor

tbh I think the loading phase is a gimmick to sell more product.

My training cycles work in 4 week periods.
3 weeks on lifting heavy so i have 10g creatine per day for the 21 days.

then I have a deload week where i lift light so i dont have creatine for these 7 days.

UnknownSpecies

Hi lads, just starting on creatine myself and have a question. I am using it for rugby and I don't want to bulk up, in fact I need to lose a bit of weight to become fit again. So my question is, is it ok to use creatine as a standalone supplement? Most people seem to use it with whey protein, but I don't want to do this, I just want to use it for the benefits in power and explosiveness. Is this ok or is there something else I should use with it?

SIX PACK

dorgasm wrote: »

Hi lads, just starting on creatine myself and have a question. I am using it for rugby and I don't want to bulk up, in fact I need to lose a bit of weight to become fit again. So my question is, is it ok to use creatine as a standalone supplement? Most people seem to use it with whey protein, but I don't want to do this, I just want to use it for the benefits in power and explosiveness. Is this ok or is there something else I should use with it?

Wel i reckon if your trying to lose a bit of weight i dont think using Creatine is going to do you any justice, Creatine for me just gave me a bloated look & a lot of spots,

Probably best off to just use Whey protien & train Hard. thats my opinion others may differ

Hanley

SIX PACK wrote: »

Wel i reckon if your trying to lose a bit of weight i dont think using Creatine is going to do you any justice, Creatine for me just gave me a bloated look & a lot of spots,

Probably best off to just use Whey protien & train Hard. thats my opinion others may differ

Creatine didn't give you spots.

Apip99

Hanley wrote: »

Creatine didn't give you spots.

Well it gave me spots!! Its been two weeks since I started using it every day and nothing in my diet has changed, nor in my day to day life. The only new thing is Creatine, And I've gotten a few spots on face and neck, and also some small ones on my shoulders. Noting major, but I've not had spots in about 15 years, so it has to be the creatine.

Molly

Coincidence does not equal correlation

Apip99

Cheers Molly, Just hit google with your reply and felt like I was back in the class room.

So with the spots and the feeling of back at school, is it possible I have managed to travel back in time?????

Wow this Creatine is good stuff..

Brian?

Apip99 wrote: »

Cheers Molly, Just hit google with your reply and felt like I was back in the class room.

So with the spots and the feeling of back at school, is it possible I have managed to travel back in time?????

Wow this Creatine is good stuff..

Why do you think Creatine gave you spots?

Apip99

Well, as said above: I have not had spots in the past 15 plus years. And since I started with Creatine I have started getting spots.

I'm guessing that there are folks who say that it has nothing to Creatine. I beg to differ.

There been no change at all to my diet, no new foods, brands, No change in drinks, drink habits. no added stress. The only thing that has changed is taking Creatine.

Maybe just maybe, some people do have a reaction, that shows its self in spots. There are enough people (like me) on the internet claiming to have been effect with spots since starting Creatine.

I have noticed a big difference in my build since taking it though. Thats for sure.

Brian?

Apip99 wrote: »

Well, as said above: I have not had spots in the past 15 plus years. And since I started with Creatine I have started getting spots..

I'm guessing that there are folks who say that it has nothing to Creatine. I beg to differ.

There been no change at all to my diet, no new foods, brands, No change in drinks, drink habits. no added stress. The only thing that has changed is taking Creatine.

I can see why you think creatine caused the spots, fair enough. But if you think about it logically, how can creatine cause them?

Apip99 wrote: »

Maybe just maybe, some people do have a reaction, that shows its self in spots. There are enough people (like me) on the internet claiming to have been effect with spots since starting Creatine.

I have noticed a big difference in my build since taking it though. Thats for sure.

That's the internet for you, all manner of people claiming all sorts of things. E.g.

http://conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=126



The last person I heard say creatine caused spots justified it by arguing that creatine boosts testosterone production, which it doesn't.

Will Heffernan

Apip99 wrote: »

Well, as said above: I have not had spots in the past 15 plus years. And since I started with Creatine I have started getting spots.

I'm guessing that there are folks who say that it has nothing to Creatine. I beg to differ.

There been no change at all to my diet, no new foods, brands, No change in drinks, drink habits. no added stress. The only thing that has changed is taking Creatine.

Maybe just maybe, some people do have a reaction, that shows its self in spots. There are enough people (like me) on the internet claiming to have been effect with spots since starting Creatine.

I have noticed a big difference in my build since taking it though. Thats for sure.

This is like the young rugby player I was coaching who came to me and told me that his Mum made him stop taking creatine because he was more aggressive and was lashing out at others more since he started taking it...I had to let him know that he'd actually been an a-hole since I met him and that he still was and that creatine never had a thing to do with it.

Inspector Coptoor

Will Heffernan wrote: »

This is like the young rugby player I was coaching who came to me and told me that his Mum made him stop taking creatine because he was more aggressive and was lashing out at others more since he started taking it...I had to let him know that he'd actually been an a-hole since I met him and that he still was and that creatine never had a thing to do with it.

to irish mammys and daddys creatine and sometimes even whey protein = steroids.

Will Heffernan

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

to irish mammys and daddys creatine and sometimes even whey protein = steroids.

As it is to some people here...creatine = acne.

I had 4 pork chops last night...that's about 5-10 grams of creatine...mysteriously I woke up this morning as beautiful and spotless as I went to bed.

Apip99

Oh dear me!

If you don't get spots form using it. Happy days. But it seems a bit mad that I am stating a fact that since I started using creatine I have started to get spots.

I have no idea how or why Creatine has given me spots. Maybe its down to dehydration (although I'm hitting 3lts a day) maybe my sweat is different, maybe little pixies having something to do with it. I really do not know. I'm just stating a fact folks.

Inspector Coptoor

No Pip, you're putting forward a hypothesis based on your own observations.

Hardly a tested theory making it far from a fact.

I find when i go on on the beer bigstyle I break out a bit but there is a link between the two and its not just based on my observations

Will Heffernan

Apip99 wrote: »

Oh dear me!

If you don't get spots form using it. Happy days. But it seems a bit mad that I am stating a fact that since I started using creatine I have started to get spots.

I have no idea how or why Creatine has given me spots. Maybe its down to dehydration (although I'm hitting 3lts a day) maybe my sweat is different, maybe little pixies having something to do with it. I really do not know. I'm just stating a fact folks.

No. You are not stating facts. You are stating that you have spots and that you use creatine.

That has as much weight and is much of a fact as me saying I eat boat loads of creatine and have no spots.

I had a spot last week and on that day I also used ketchup and mayo on my fries...so I can state as a 'fact' that ketchup and mayo on fries causes acne. I've not had ketchup and mayo on fries since then and have not had acne...so now it is an incontrovertible fact proven over time.

Apip99

I was mealy putting forward a hypothesis from my own observations that I assumed that there was link between me starting to use Creatine and the out break of spots (something that I had not had since my teenage year)

Sorry Will, but I am stating a fact. The fact is I started using Creatine, and the fact is that when I did (related or not) I broke out in spots.

With the greatest of respect and humor, because life if just to short, lets agree to disagree on this one.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/apip99/Cat.jpg

TheZ

What brand of creatine you take?
Does it also have a load of sugar/dextrose in it?

Armedocr

I just buy the kg bag from myprotein. All these designer creatine products just blow my mind but I guess they're sold by the bucket load.

I throw about 10/15g down my throat followed by some water everyday, some people get so OCD about this stuff.

Barry.Oglesby

Alls I know is the last time I injected creatine into my throat I started to get mad aggressive like and I told my mom I hated her and I broke up with my girlfriend and this one time like my dad was doing my head in so I told him to **** off and then next thing the oul wan is ringing Joe Duffy and the priest had to come into my school and give a talk on the dangers of drugs and all that and I had to buy soooo much clearasil.

TommyKnocker

Mod Note:

Ok, you have all had your fun, and made your jokes about creatine and spots. Enough now!!!

A poster has posted they they attribute an outbreak of spots on their skin to recently supplementing with Creatine as this was the only thing that changed in their life and they have not suffered with spots in over 15 years.

I don't believe that there is anybody on this forum who can state with absolute certainty that there is no way that within the entire population of the planet, there is nobody who might have some sort of reaction to Creatine and that this reaction could not manifest itself as spots on the skin.

I read an article in a paper yesterday about a person (adult) that developed an alergy to water a number of years ago, and now if water gets on their skin they brake out in a rash. So while the majority of folks will suffer no reaction to Creatine, maybe, just maybe it's possible that somebody does or to some other compound within the creatine that they use.


M

Barry.Oglesby

In fairness, that's not really a mod note is it? I mean, you're stating your opinion as much as anyone is. We think he's wrong, you think he's right (as does he obviously) and that's called debate. If you want to join the debate that's great fire away.

Hanley

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

In fairness, that's not really a mod note is it? I mean, you're stating your opinion as much as anyone is. We think he's wrong, you think he's right (as does he obviously) and that's called debate. If you want to join the debate that's great fire away.

This.

It's not really fair on the other posters to put "mod note" in to try and make your opinion sound more valid. I know you're "not an expert" as you say in every post, but the tone of some of the posts you reply to with your mod hat on sound very dismissive of everyone else.

g'em

Point taken but this....

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Alls I know is the last time I injected creatine into my throat I started to get mad aggressive like and I told my mom I hated her and I broke up with my girlfriend and this one time like my dad was doing my head in so I told him to **** off and then next thing the oul wan is ringing Joe Duffy and the priest had to come into my school and give a talk on the dangers of drugs and all that and I had to buy soooo much clearasil.

... isn't quite debating material is it? By all means discuss and disprove at will but taking the píss to that extent doesn't really do much for the thread.

And if you have an issue with any Moderator on the forum please contact them or one of the other Mods by PM, don't discuss it on-thread.

Cheers.

the drifter

mod note again!!!!!!

Ok lads i know its early and some people might not be fully awake yet or had there coffee and cake. But i said id copy the origional question for everyone just to refresh the memory

Banks wrote: »

Ive done a lot of research about creatine recently as i'm going to start supplementing with it, Can anyone suggest a brand that they found good, or is each brand similar??

see than bit in bold there...see it? i dont see anything there about whether creating gives you spots or makes you feel more attracted to other men or any side affects...

i see a question..a genuine question...looking for recommednations on a brand...so come on lads and ladies...i know we have it in us to have at least one thread here today where the OP's questions are answered...


and just for those of you who still dont understand it.....keep this sh*t on topic

Barry.Oglesby

the drifter wrote: »

i see a question..a genuine question...looking for recommednations on a brand...so come on lads and ladies...i know we have it in us to have at least one thread here today where the OP's questions are answered...

Any old creatine monohydrate is as good as another. I think that was answered very early on. Then there was some off topicness by pretty much everyone, so I just chimed in with an excellent joke that had me rolling around laughing. I was just attempting some humour to show how silly the "creatine is evil" arguments are because any old creatine monohydrate is as good as another.

Seriously though, I thought this debate was pretty off topic from about the 4th post, but there was no off-topic warning until someone has a bit of a laugh, so I suppose I'll just say that any old Creatine Monohydrate is as good as any other and that will keep it on topic.

Apip99

I use Creatine Monohydrate from myprotein.co.uk. I have noticed a difference in my build.

kevpants

Barry are you taking any supplements right now?

This rowdy off-topic behaviour might be down to arganine. I heard that happened to a guy before.